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42 minutes ago, drol said:

Chuan Leekpai now hospitalised after testing positive for COVID-19, but his Onlus symptom is a sore throat, so he will be fine.

An Onlus symptom... sounds deadly. I know a bloke who had Onlus, and he has never quite been the same since. Are you absolutely sure he will be okay?

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On 09/06/2022 at 22:23, arghton said:

CHILE (Including less notable people up to 1930)

Armando Barrientos (1921) Former Deputy, alive? No death date anywhere and marked alive on wikipedia es.

Blanca Retamal Contreras (1921) Former Deputy, alive? Same as above.

Arturo Alessandri Besa (1923) Former Member of the Chamber of Deputies, Senator and Presidential candidate in 1993, got 24.4% of the votes.

Elena Díaz Hevia (1924) Communist local politician from Arica who retired in 2021. Obese and wheelchairbound for ages.

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Arturo Alessandri Besa, Chilean politician and former Presidential candidate dead at 98

I'm not sure if the two born in 1921 are still alive

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On 18/07/2020 at 20:22, drol said:

A quick list of old Chinese politicos, one of the hardest thing to kill in this world.

 

1)Song Ping (1917): political leader of Gansu who rose to the Organization Department in the 80s. He was the one responsible for ending the careers of those who opposed Tien An Men repression. Due to his excellent work (and profound hatred for Zhao Zhiyang) he was promoted to the Politburo after the massacre. Considered very close to Hu JIntao. Widowed since last year.

2)Wan Haifeng (1920): one of the last founding fathers of PRC and commander of volounteers during the Korea war. Widowed since last year, increasingly frail, will be awarded a big honour later this year for his Korea service.

3)Zou Yu (1920): minister of Justice, he was hospitalized in a serious condition in 2017, but got discharged and made appearances as late as last September. Also known because his granddaughter is fine.

4)Zheng Tuobin (1924): former Minister of Trade whose retirement benefits are incredibly high.

5)Lin Jiamei (1924): wife of Li Xiannan and former First Lady. Was incredibly frail already in 2015.

6)Ren Jianxin (1925): president of the Supreme Court and successor of Zou Yu as Minister of Justice. Not heard so much nowadays.

7)Wang Hanbin (1925): old cadre behind the HK Basic Laws. Seen on a wheelchair back in 2016.

8)Wang Binqian (1925): former minister of Finance, living in an apartment paid by the government.

9)Jiang Zemin (1926): the human face of Chinese regime who would rise atop of the system from his Shangai political position and brought with him the infamous clique. Famous for his funny outburst and for looking like a toad, suffered a severe heart attack in 2012 and was longtime rumored dead. Doing well.

10)Zou Jiahua (1926): vice premier and Politburo member.

11)Wang Yeping (1928): missus of Jiang Zemin. Old but well and frequently appears in public.

12)Zhu Rongji (1928): progressist PM who believed in human rights. Recently made the headlines as he did not take part to the 70th PRC anniversary to protest against what is happening in Hong Kong.

13)Tian Jiyun (1929): former Vice-premier, rival of Jiang Zemin and protected by Zhao Zhiyang. Last appearance in 2018, but was fine. Considered a progressist who always poke fun at the hardliners.

14)Chi Haotian (1929): former Minister of Defence who was physically responsible of Tien An Men repression and showed great brutality. Somehow, still regarded as a national hero.

15)Hu Qili (1929): he paid his support to Tien An Men protest with his political career. Still, as a Politburo member, he opposed the martial law. Gravely ill in 2018, now bedridden and was visited last January by the Paramount Leader.

16)Peng Peiyun (1929): Wang Hanbin wife and Tibet human rights criminal

17)Han Zhijun (1930): widow of Hua Guofeng and never appears in public, as she didn't even when he was in power.

18)Yan Mingfu (1931): one of the very few high-ranking cadres who opposed martial law at Tien An Men and paid with his career (thanks, mr. Song). Suffering from a "long-term" illness which forces him on a wheelchair.

19)Song Jian (1931): legendary aerospace engineer and former minister of science.

20)Li Lanqing (1932): close friend of Li Ruihuan and former Vice-premier who focused on national education and steered clear from controversy.

21)Li Ruihuan (1934): definitely the good guy who had a direct contact with the people, even holding a radio broadcast in which he answered questions. Always seen as a moderate among hardliners.

22)Liu Zhongli (1934): former minister of Finance.

23)Cao Gangchuan (1935): minister of Defense, who was a relief after Chi Haotian.

24)Tang Jiaxuan (1938): former foreign minister.

Two years ago it was a group of 24 living people, aged 82 to 103.

 

Now it is a group of 24 living people, aged 84 to 105... :scratchhead:

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A few centenarians more, don't think I've mentioned them in this thread:

 

Shi Ping (1912) former deputy director of the Standing Committee of the Shanghai Municipal People's Congress. 110 in two months. He sent a letter to Xi in 2021. Already very frail and lived in a hospital back then. There's some debate about his birthdate but it seems to be November 1912.

Zhang Lixiong (1913) Deputy of the 5th National People's Congress. Survived a serious illness that required him to be fed through a nasogastric tube around 2020-2021. He was hospitalised for atleast multiple months, according to some sources a year.

Ma Shitu (1915) Writer, but also politician. Of course we all know him but he fits into this group too due to his political career.

Jian Xianfo (1916) Vice Minister of the Electric Industry around 1979/1980-1982. Also held multiple smaller positions. Widow of general and author Xiao Ke.

Fan Xixian (1917) Guangdong local politician. 

 

Taiwan:

Hsu Li-nong (1919) Pro-China Kuomintang politician. Former Vice-Chairman of the National Unification Commission. 

Abdullah Timan (1919-2022) Uyghur Kuomintang politician. He was alive in 2019.

Zhong Yiren (1921) Taiwan independence activist. Miraculously survived colorectal in 2011.

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On 09/06/2022 at 22:23, arghton said:

CHILE (Including less notable people up to 1930)

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Francisco Cumplido (1930) Minister of Justice 1990-1994

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Francisco Cumplido, Chile's Minister of Justice under Patricio Aylwin's government, dead at 91

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On 01/05/2022 at 18:44, arghton said:

 

Kim Chong-kon (1930) Former ambassador to Taiwan

 

Kim Chong-kon dead at 91.

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Indian Presidential Election today, great form spotting opportunity...

 

Former Prime Minister of India Manmohan Singh makes rare appearance, wheeled to cast his vote:

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Mulayam Singh Yadav also voted:

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Pradipta Kumar Naik, Odisha opposition leader, also in a wheelchair and looked very frail, apparently had an oxygen cylinder with him. Couldn't find a better picture:

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Here's a video of Sharad Pawar and Mulayam Singh Yadav, both sometimes mentioned on these forums, voting:

 

HD Devegowda, Prime Minister 1996-1997 also voted, looks quite frail now and wheelchairbound with bloated legs:

 

Seemingly no sign of multiple old CMs (Achuthanandan, Parkash Singh Badal, Shibu Soren, BC Khanduri), L. K. Advani or Pratibha Patil. No Lalu Prasad Yadav either as he's in hospital.

O. Paanneerselvam casted his vote in a PPE kit to avoid spreading his covid. MK Stalin also voted, has already been discharged.

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On 16/04/2022 at 15:39, drol said:

Here's your unrequested list of provincial Chinese politicians born before 1940. Three centenarians, a 98 year old, and a lot born in the early 30s.

 

Lu Maozeng (1928)

 

 

Lu Maozeng dead at 93.

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On 13/09/2021 at 19:14, arghton said:

Dead. Also former President of Yugoslavia 1990-1991

https://www.atvbl.com/vijesti/srbija/preminuo-borisav-jovic-13-9-2021

 

During the last 15 years, seven former Heads of State of Yugoslavia have died. Only Raif Dizdarevic (1926-) and Stjepan Mesic (1934-) left.

The Raif hospitalised after testing positive for COVID, but apparently not in any danger.

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9 hours ago, alt obits guy said:

 

Mark Nye, the politics guy? 

 

 

 

 

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On 01/05/2022 at 17:44, arghton said:

*snip*

 

ISRAEL (Knesset members and minor politicians up to 1930, Ministers up to 1935)

Tamar Eshel (1920) Knesset (parliament) member 1977-1984


*snip*


Plenty of Facebook posts, including this one, reporting that London-born Israeli politician Tamar Eshel (wiki) died this morning. Today was her 102nd birthday.

She was the oldest living former member of the Knesset. That title is now held by Shmuel Toledano (wiki, b. Jan 1921).

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25 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


Plenty of Facebook posts, including this one, reporting that London-born Israeli politician Tamar Eshel (wiki) died this morning. Today was her 102nd birthday.

She was the oldest living former member of the Knesset. That title is now held by Shmuel Toledano (wiki, b. Jan 1921).


Obit as confirmation.

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44 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Can't see why she's been singled out.  The whole lot deserve it.

 

 

Aye, what do you call one dead Conservative?

 

A start!

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