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On 09/06/2022 at 13:23, arghton said:

Well here's a list of nonagenarian/centenarian South American politicians. Born 1932 or before. Do not quote the whole post.

 

BRAZIL (only ones with an English wiki page post-1925)

Hermógenes Príncipe de Oliveira (1917-?) Member of Parliament 1955-1967. I'm not 100 percent sure if he's alive, but government sites have no death date and pt wikipedia has marked him alive, if it turns out he's dead I'll remove him.

 

Appears to have died in 2013 per this death registry extract attached.

 

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CHILE (Including less notable people up to 1930)

Armando Barrientos Miranda (1921-?) Former Deputy, alive? No death date anywhere and marked alive on wikipedia es.

Possibly/likely deceased, as his name shows up on a list of cancelled Chilean identity numbers (usually meaning they are deceased) which is available via a genealogical group. It's possible to request a death certificate extract at https://www.registrocivil.gob.cl with a Chilean identity card.

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Shridath Ramphal dead at 95.

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Lord David Owen retired from the House of Lords today. 

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On 07/02/2015 at 21:47, time said:

I'm impressed...

 

On 07/02/2015 at 21:43, Guest Guest said:

Dead peers are like no 9 buses. None for ages then they all come along at once.Lord Gavron dead at 84 http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/07/lord-gavron-dies-84-labour-peer-chair-guardian-media-group

 

Gavron's widow, Nicky Gavron, herself notable as she was deputy mayor of London to Ken Livingstone for 8 years, has died, aged 82.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/30190156/london-deputy-mayor-nicky-gavron-dies/amp/

 

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On 09/06/2022 at 13:23, arghton said:

Well here's a list of nonagenarian/centenarian South American politicians. Born 1932 or before. Do not quote the whole post.

 

CHILE (Including less notable people up to 1930)

Armando Barrientos Miranda (1921-before 2024) Former Deputy, alive? No death date anywhere and marked alive on wikipedia es.

 

Update: Died May 26, 2004 in Viña del Mar as per his death certificate.

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On 01/05/2022 at 12:44, arghton said:

 

 

 

On 01/05/2022 at 12:44, arghton said:

 

 

 

 

On 01/05/2022 at 12:44, arghton said:

 

CAMBODIA
Thiounn Mumm (1925-2022) Khmer rouge minister described as a "racist political dynast", CNE said in 2020 he is thought to be alive.
Thiounn Prasith (1930-2023) Khmer rouge politician, brother of Thiounn Mumm. Pot's "spin doctor", now lives in Paris.
Kheiu Samphan (1931) Head of State of Cambodia 1976-1979 during Pol Pot's tenure. Last time I checked, serving a life sentence and desperately trying to get out of jail.
Heng Samrin (1934) Head of State of Cambodia 1979-1992. Seems like he's in perfect health.
Keat Chhon (1934) Minister of Economy and Finance 1994-2013, Deputy Prime Minister 2008-2016
Mam Nai (1934) Khmer Rouge politician described as the "most frightening Khmer Rouge individual", an absolutely horrible human being.
Hor Namhong (1935) Deputy Prime Minister since 2004.
Kong Sam Ol (1936) Minister of the Royal Palance since 1998.
Keuky Lim (1937) Khmer Rouge foreign affairs minister 1973-1975, now leads Cambodia's diabetes association.
Lu Laysreng (1938) Former Deputy Prime Minister who called the King of Cambodia a "castrated chicken" once.
Mom Chim Huy (1939) Minor name.
Chhim Siek Leng (1940) Former Governor of Phnom Penh.

 

Kong Sam Oi dead.

https://eacnews.asia/home/details/31928

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Do not quote the whole post.:rolleyes:

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7 minutes ago, drol said:

Do not quote the whole post.:rolleyes:

Was in the middle of deleting most of it after original post. :rolleyes:

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The legendary Raif Dizdarevic (1926) is now the last living FM of Yugoslavia.

 

Vladislav Jovanovic  (1933) is close but no cigar, having served from 1992.

 

 

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On 07/08/2024 at 11:10, drol said:

Julian Munoz hospitalised yet again.

 

It's between him and Rodolfo Hernandez for the "crook politician with terminal cancer who never dies" challenge.

Rodolfo Hernandez ....dead at 79?!

 

Did it really happen???

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On 02/02/2023 at 00:39, Ulitzer95 said:


A useless fact. The death of Baroness Berners means that there are now just 10 living female hereditary peers (in their own right).

The 21st Lady Saltoun, 92
The 28th Baroness Willoughby de Eresby, 88
The 10th Baroness Howard de Walden, 87
The 11th Baroness Arlington, 83
The 31st Countess of Mar, 82
The 8th Baroness Braye, 81
The Marchioness of Lothian/The 16th Lady Herries of Terregles, 78
The 13th Lady Kinloss, 65
The 9th Lady Balfour of Burleigh, 49
The 29th Baroness Dacre, 39

They've been dwindling in numbers for some years. Rewind back several decades ago and there were many more. Why that was the case I'm not entirely sure, but my educated guess would be that two consecutive world wars wiped out a lot of the men, and with certain peerages the women were able to inherit them.

Following the retirements of Lady Saltoun in 2014, and the Countess of Mar in 2020, there are no female hereditary peers currently sitting in the House of Lords.


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I have it on good authority that popular Scottish peer Flora Fraser, the 21st Lady Saltoun (wiki) died this morning, aged 93. Sat in the Lords from 1979 to 2014 as a Crossbencher.

Picked in a few pools on the forum over the years.

Whilst I'm here, from the above list the 10th Baroness Howard de Walden died back in July, aged 88, but it wasn't reported on here at the time.

Lady Saltoun's heir is her daughter, meaning there are 9 female hereditary peers at current.

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46 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:


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I have it on good authority that popular Scottish peer Flora Fraser, the 21st Lady Saltoun (wiki) died this morning, aged 93. Sat in the Lords from 1979 to 2014 as a Crossbencher.

Picked in a few pools on the forum over the years.

Whilst I'm here, from the above list the 10th Baroness Howard de Walden died back in July, aged 88, but it wasn't reported on here at the time.

Lady Saltoun's heir is her daughter, meaning there are 9 female hereditary peers at current.

Nearly picked her on my westminster theme team.Second sub to die after Tony Lloyd not a good year for me DDP wise.

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On 02/08/2022 at 22:10, arghton said:

12. Sweden

Evert Svensson (1925) Ancient social democrat politico, member of parliament 1957-1991

Bertil Zachrisson (1926-2023) Decrepit former Minister of Education

Torsten Stridsman (1926-2024) Centrist

Margit Sandéhn (1926-2023) Former Social Democrat Member of Parliament

Ulla Orring (1926) Liberal

Gunnel Liljegren (1927) Moderaterna minor politician

Elisabeth Fleetwood (1927-2024) Moderaterna parliament member 1979-2002

Sigrid "Stina" Eliasson (1927) Former Member of Parliament

Vera Oredsson (1928) Ancient neonazi

Hans Blix (1928) UN guy

Gerda Antti (1929) Centre party politician

 

Swedish politician Evert Svensson (Wikidead at 99

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Upon hearing that Jeffrey Titford had died, I had a look at the long list of UKIP leaders.

Not updated on his Wiki page (I'll do it now though) but Michael Holmes (wiki), Titford's predecessor and the party's 2nd leader actually died off radar last year aged 85.

Source.

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Their oldest former leader is now Lord Pearson, 82, who fronted the party from 2009 to 2010, and quit the party in 2019.

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UK Independence Party (UKIP)

Leaders
Alan Sked (born 1947)
Michael Holmes (1938–2023)
Jeffrey Titford (1933–2024)

Roger Knapman (born 1944)
Nigel Farage (born 1964)
Lord Malcolm Pearson (born 1942)
Diane James (born 1959)
Paul Nuttall (born 1976)
Henry Bolton OBE (born 1963)
Gerard Batten (born 1954)
Richard Braine (born 1968)
Freddy Vachha (born 1957)
Neil Hamilton (born 1949)
Lois Perry (born 1981)
Nick Tenconi (born 1984)

Deputy Leaders
Lord Craig Mackinlay (born 1966)
Graham Booth (1940–2011)
Mike Nattrass (born 1945)
David Campbell Bannerman (born 1960)
Viscount Christopher Monckton (born 1952)
(Paul Nuttall)
Peter Whittle (born 1961)
Margot Parker (born 1943)
Mike Hookem (born 1953)
Pat Mountain (born 1946)
Rebecca Jane (born 1984)
(Nick Tenconi)

MEPs
Stuart Agnew (born 1949)
Tim Aker (born 1985)
Marta Andreasen (born 1954)
Jonathan Arnott (born 1981)
Janice Atkinson (born 1962)
Amjad Bashir (born 1952)
(Gerard Batten)
Godfrey Bloom (born 1949)
(Graham Booth)
Louise Bours (born 1968)
John Bufton (born 1962)
Jonathan Bullock (born 1963)
(David Campbell Bannerman)
James Carver (born 1969)
Derek Clark (1933–2023)
David Coburn (born 1959)
Trevor Colman (1941–2022)
10th Earl of Dartmouth (born 1949)
Bill Etheridge (born 1970)
(Nigel Farage)
Ray Finch (born 1963)
Nathan Gill (born 1973)
Roger Helmer (born 1944)
(Michael Holmes)
(Mike Hookem)
(Diane James)
Robert Kilroy-Silk (born 1942)
(Roger Knapman)
Ashley Mote (1936–2020)
(Mike Nattrass)
(Paul Nuttall)
Patrick O'Flynn (born 1965)
(Margot Parker)
Julia Reid (born 1952)
Jill Seymour (born 1958)
Nikki Sinclaire (born 1968)
(Jeffrey Titford)
John Whittaker (born 1945)
Tom Wise (born 1948)
Steven Woolfe (born 1967)
Jane Collins (born 1962)

MPs
Douglas Carswell (born 1971)
Mark Reckless (born 1970)
Bob Spink (born 1948)

Peers in the House of Lords
Lord Grantley (born 1956)
7th Earl of Bradford (born 1947)
(Lord Malcolm Pearson)
Lord Willoughby de Broke (born 1938)
Lord David Stevens (born 1936)

Thought it was time for a list of UKIP leaders/elected members. Despite only first gaining sets in 1999, 6 of their former MEPs are already dead.

Of their first 4 MEPs elected in 1999, Farage is the only one still living following the death of Jeffrey Titford.

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2 hours ago, gcreptile said:

Joe Wilson, US rep who memorably interrupted Obama's State of the Union with "You lie!" hospitalised after collapse:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-rep-joe-wilson-south-carolina-hospital-collapse-rcna170530

Seems like at the very least, if we are to believe what his son is saying, he's stable enough to be able to carry on a conversation. Which he's a good sign for him neurologically.

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Jim Sasser, former Tennessee senator and ambassador to China, dead at 87.

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16 hours ago, Comped said:

Seems like at the very least, if we are to believe what his son is saying, he's stable enough to be able to carry on a conversation. Which he's a good sign for him neurologically.

My grandfather passed a few years ago of a stroke. I remember he was able to hold a conversation for the first couple nights in the hospital, and then he deteriorated before dying about a week after the stroke. Was definitely confusing because I thought he was going to make it after the first couple of nights. 

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On 24/07/2024 at 07:53, drol said:

Lalu Prasad Yadav discharged.

 

More Lalu Prasad Yawnyawn.

Lalu Prasad Yadav hospitalised, underwent angioplasty.

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