Who Should Be On The 2017 Deathlist?

[Deathray 2,933]

Specifically for discussion of people who you think should be on next years Deathlist (i.e would obit in a UK national)

[RadGuy 1,605]

A similar thread like this was closed just a couple of weeks ago due to being too similar to the "Ideas and Possibilities" thread. So this one might be closed, too.

Of course, that's BS, because we've always had "Who Should Be On" threads along with the "Ideas and Possibilities" threads, so I don't get why this year should be any different.

 

Anyways, I'd suggest these names to be in the top 5:

1) Zsa Zsa Gabor (she ain't goin' nowhere, but it's a tradition at this point)

2) George H W Bush (too old and frail to hang on much longer)

3) King Michael I of Romania (old, has cancer, wife just died)

4) Giorgio Napolitano (old and well-known statesman - your typical DL mix)

5) Billy Graham (reportedly on the brink of death)

 

I'd suggest different names, if it weren't for the fact that the Deathlist always includes ultra-famous nonagenerians, rather than actually sick and dying people.

[Joey Russ 7,119]

A similar thread like this was closed just a couple of weeks ago due to being too similar to the "Ideas and Possibilities" thread. So this one might be closed, too.

Of course, that's BS, because we've always had "Who Should Be On" threads along with the "Ideas and Possibilities" threads, so I don't get why this year should be any different.

 

Anyways, I'd suggest these names to be in the top 5:

1) Zsa Zsa Gabor (she ain't goin' nowhere, but it's a tradition at this point)

2) George H W Bush (too old and frail to hang on much longer)

3) King Michael I of Romania (old, has cancer, wife just died)

4) Giorgio Napolitano (old and well-known statesman - your typical DL mix)

5) Billy Graham (reportedly on the brink of death)

 

I'd suggest different names, if it weren't for the fact that the Deathlist always includes ultra-famous nonagenerians, rather than actually sick and dying people.

Usually there is at least one legit ill person in the top 5, so my prediction for this year is AA Gill.

[The Mad Hatter 1,091]

Gay Bryne and AA Gil are musts along with Luke halquinn, Stefan Karl Stessfanson and Colin Meads.

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Luke halquinn

Never heard of him. Is he your grandfather's best friend?

[msc 17,761]

 

Luke halquinn

Never heard of him. Is he your grandfather's best friend?

 

 

He's related to Joey Freak, I think.

[Death Impends 7,367]

And his best friend was a dorphin.

[ImNotHades 206]

Both ex presidents, Jimmy and George (and Barb), Jerry Stiller and Akihito.

[Sean 5,997]

A.A Gill

Leah Bracknell

Colin Meads

Helmut Kohl

Tony Booth

Ray Wilson

Nobby Stiles

King Michael of Romania

Norman Lloyd

Clare Hollingworth

Jill Gascoine

Daniella Westbrook

Liz Dawn

John Hurt

Peter Hall

Roger Bannister

Douglas Hurd

Pierre Cardin

Ian Brady

Lilianne Bettencourt

Jerry Lewis

Joe Jackson (manager)

Joanne Woodward

Piers Sellers

Pope Benedict

Sheila Mercier

Desmond Carrington

Gay Byrne

Jeremy Hutchinson

David Rockefeller

Betty White

June Whitfield

Clifton James

Glynis Johns

Henry Heimlich

Kenny Sansom

Val Kilmer

Jim Prior

Walter Mondale

Wendy Beckett

Lionel Blue

[Joey Russ 7,119]

I'll just throw in some names I like to see, some old, and some ill.

 

Sidney Poitier: First black actor to win an oscar, as well as some iconic roles such as his roles in In The Heat Of The Night and Guess Who's Coming To Dinner

 

John Glenn: One of the last great astronauts, I think it would be an achievement to see a great astronaut to be on deathlist

 

John Wetton: Prog Rocker who has metastatic cancer, as well as heart problems and Sepsis. Definitely one to consider for deathlist

 

Gregg Allman: He had pneumonia earlier this year, and now has canceled more concerts due to vocal issues. One to watch: if he gets a gofundme page, he'll become a must have.

[JiroemonKimura 95]

Keep:

Zsa Zsa Gabor

Olivia De Havilland

Mary Tyler Moore

Kirk Douglas

Herman Wouk

Billy Graham

Peter Sallis

Joost van der Westhuizen

John Noakes

Glen Campbell

Jacques Chirac

Prince Phillip

Vera Lynn

Bruce Forsyth

 

100% dead certs, 100% obit chance (must haves):

Leah Bracknell

Piers Sellers

Gord Downie

Colin Meads

Errol Christie

Ian St. John

 

Likely deaths:

Bart Starr

Craig Sager

A A Gill

Gay Byrne

Shannon Doherty

Nobby Stiles

Charles Bradley

 

The rest I shall not disclose.

[The Unknown Man 560]

Here's what i think the 2017 list should look like:

 

1. Leah Bracknell
2. Piers Sellers
3. Zsa Zsa Gabor
4. Olivia De Havilland
5. Herman Wouk
6. Kirk Douglas
7. Javier Perez de Cuellar
8. Peter Sallis
9. Billy Graham
10. Richard Adams
11. Prince Philip
12. King Michael I of Romania
13. Vera Lynn
14. Lord Peter Carrington
15. George Bush Senior
16. Fidel Castro
17. Liz Smith
18. Glynis Johns
19. Jake Lamotta
20. Helmut Kohl
21. Bob Dole
22. Yasuhiro Nakasone
23. Glen Campbell
24. A A Gil
25. Jimmy Carter
26. John Noakes
27. Joost van der Westhuizen
28. Valerie Harper
29. Colin Meads
30. Ian St. John
31. Robert M Pirsig
32. Dick Van Dyke
33. Pierre Cardin
34. Desmond Tutu
35. Leslie Phillips
36. Liz Dawn
37. Jacques Chirac
38. Mary Tyler Moore
39. Denis Norden
40. Chuck Berry
41. Bruce Forsyth
42. Eileen Derbyshire
43. Jerry Lewis
44. Shannen Doherty
45. Aretha Franklin
46. Betty White
47. Tony Booth
48. Tom Baker
49. Sean Connery
50. Ian Brady

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Here's what i think the 2017 list should look like:

 

19. Jake Lamotta

20. Helmut Kohl

21. Bob Dole

22. Yasuhiro Nakasone

23. Glen Campbell

24. Jake Lamotta

 

[Joey Russ 7,119]

I'll do my keeps and removes before I go to bed

 

Please keep the following:

Zsa Zsa Gabor

Olivia de Haviland

Billy Graham

Kirk Douglas

Peter Sallis

Prince Phillip

Joost

Jimmy Carter

George Bush Sr.

Vera Lynn

Fidel Castro

Desmond Tutu

Glen Campbell

Jake Lamotta

Denis Norden

Jacques Chriac

John Noakes

Bruce Forsyth

Please remove the following:

Javier Perez de Cuellar (they never listen though)

James Randi

Prunella Scales (too early)

Tommy Chong (too early)

Doug Ellis

Sandy Gall

Robert M Pirsig

Lester Piggott (and never to come back)

Stan Lee

Gordon Banks

Paul Gascoigne

[Gooseberry Crumble 5,210]

A.A Gill

Leah Bracknell

Colin Meads

Helmut Kohl

Tony Booth

Ray Wilson

Nobby Stiles

King Michael of Romania

Norman Lloyd

Clare Hollingworth

Jill Gascoine

Daniella Westbrook

Liz Dawn

John Hurt

Peter Hall

Roger Bannister

Douglas Hurd

Pierre Cardin

Ian Brady

Lilianne Bettencourt

Jerry Lewis

Joe Jackson (manager)

Joanne Woodward

Piers Sellers

Pope Benedict

Sheila Mercier

Desmond Carrington

Gay Byrne

Jeremy Hutchinson

David Rockefeller

Betty White

June Whitfield

Clifton James

Glynis Johns

Henry Heimlich

Kenny Sansom

Val Kilmer

Jim Prior

Walter Mondale

Wendy Beckett

Lionel Blue

Please not the lovely Betty White the last of The Golden Girls!

 

Some excellent picks in there although Val Kilmer has denied publicly he has cancer for what it's worth?

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Anyone knows who's part of the committee. Apart from the Grim Reaper of course.

[msc 17,761]

Right at this moment, or at some point over the last 30 years? The latter list includes Harry Mac (no longer posts here), welshman (hence his tagline), and a few others. Currently, haven't a clue, because I've not been paying attention, beyond Grim, of course. Paul B likes to use the royal We, but he's a Scot...

[Joey Russ 7,119]

I know Zorders posted a few names a few years ago, but none of the members were actually active apart from Gooseberry Crumble.

[Deathray 2,933]

I think the members still meet up (or have a facebook group chat) annually, including those who've abandoned the forums to compile a list.

[msc 17,761]

He was joking...

 

 

Anyhow, apparently for 2012 I suggested Sid Waddell and Frank Carson. For 2015, I suggested Jimmy Hill and Tony Booth. Trying to follow up this 75% success rate of serious replies to this thread, I'll look into my crystal ball and suggest...Winnie Ewing and Kenneth Cope. Both not well, last I heard, and the latter has a gimme headline waiting for him.

[Joey Russ 7,119]

Now here's one not to include: Tony Bennet. He's performing at the Macy's thanksgiving day parade, so he definitely has at least a few more years on him.

[Toast 14,840]

Sidney Poitier: First black actor to win an oscar

 

Not true, unless you are distinguishing between actors and actresses, which seems to be no longer the done thing.

 

Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar in 1940 for 'Gone With The Wind', over 20 years before Poitier.

[Joey Russ 7,119]

 

Sidney Poitier: First black actor to win an oscar

 

Not true, unless you are distinguishing between actors and actresses, which seems to be no longer the done thing.

 

Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar in 1940 for 'Gone With The Wind', over 20 years before Poitier.

Yes. I knew Hattie McDaniel won one for her performance in gone with the wind. Yes, I was distinguishing actor and actresses.

[Toast 14,840]

 

 

Sidney Poitier: First black actor to win an oscar

Not true, unless you are distinguishing between actors and actresses, which seems to be no longer the done thing.

 

Hattie McDaniel won an Oscar in 1940 for 'Gone With The Wind', over 20 years before Poitier.

Yes. I knew Hattie McDaniel won one for her performance in gone with the wind. Yes, I was distinguishing actor and actresses.

 

 

Actually I support the distinction. I think it's ridiculous to obscure the gender in a profession where the distinction matters a great deal.

And of course the Oscars have separate categories.

 

I feel that Hattie gets unfairly ignored much of the time, as it doesn't suit certain agendas that a black person won an Oscar at such an early date.

[msc 17,761]

So, with that out of the way, who would I cut/add/etc? Just a bit of fun, as Peter Snow would say...

 

CUT

Paul Gascoigne (he could go tomorrow, he could go in twenty years, like any alcoholic. Short of proper ill health, get rid...)

Lester Piggott (not ill enough)

Tommy Chong (recovering)

Mary Tyler Moore
(These feel self-evident enough...)

 

Stephen Hawking

Stan Lee

Robert M Pirsig

Sandy Gall

Doug Ellis

Bob Dole

Clive James

James Randi

Liz Smith
(Think they'll see 2018)

 

Murry Walker

Henry Kissinger

Gordon Banks

Richard Adams

(the "need to cut it down to 25" people)

 

KEEP

Zsa Zsa/de Havilland/Rev Billy/Wouk/Javier Perez/Kirk D/Prince Philip/Fidel Castro - the folk who aren't leaving till they die.

Peter Sallis - think he's iller than reported.

Lord Carrington

Joost van der Westhuizen - 6th year MND, and looking ghastly.

Prunella Scales - feel this would be regretted if dropped

Jimmy Carter/George Bush Sr - Presidents don't get dropped. 93 year old Presidents especially...

Vera Lynn - 100 next year, allegedly frail

Leslie Philips - not very well, as strokes, radio silence and those photos show

Fats Domino - the annual "surely he must go this year?" pick that drops as soon as he is dropped

Desmond Tutu

Glen Campbell - 2017 feels his year

Jake lamotta

Denis Norden

Jimmy Greaves

Jacques Chirac - quite clearly rather ill

John Noakes - ditto with Scales, 2016 was clearly a year early.

Brucie - Yeah, he's "one of ours", as MPFC likes to say.

 

 

RETURNEES

 

Robert Mugabe

Hosni Mubarak

Doris Day

Helmut Kohl (I think they've "done a Megrahi" on him and it'll turn out inspired...)

Valerie Harper (she does still have terminal cancer after all)

Nicholas Parsons (50th anniversary of JAM, life's like that...)

Pierre Cardin

Sean Connery (they get too many chances left, I don't think)

Queen Elizabeth II (because the risk of missing out on her is too big, to my mind)

 

NEWCOMERS

 

(Which I'll split the remaining sixteen in 8 people known to be ill, and 8 interesting Deathlisty names...)

 

 

DEATHLISTY ENOUGH* AND SICK ENOUGH

AA Gill

Len Hawkes

Ian St John

Leah Bracknell

Colin Meads

Gord Downie (from what I can make out, about as known here as Warren Zevon was)

Piers Sellers (I've been skeptical elsewhere, but f**k it, hes a British astronaut, tones of missions, and dying...)

Tony Booth

 

 

*I've decided to take Pirsig/Woodhead as a fame bar.
**I expect none of these people to show up on the actual 2017 Deathlist.

 

 

FAMOUS AND DEATHLISTY

 

Sidney Poitier

Honor Blackman

Robert Hardy (of course...)

Barbara Bush

David Attenborough

Mel Brooks

Former Pope Benedict XVI

Freddie Jones

 

 

Most likely 0/25 on the non-2016 names, but then, that's life for you.