Joey Russ 7,220 Posted October 22, 2017 How would I would personally approach the list next year: 25 people who would return to the list next year from this year's list: The bedblockers (ie people who made 8 or more appearances): 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Vera Lynn 3. Billy Graham 4. Olivia de Haviland 5. Fats Domino People who are too big to be dropped: 6. Prince Phillip 7. Stan Lee 8. Jimmy Carter 9. Robert Mugabe 10. Queen Elizabeth 11. George Bush Sr 12. Pope Benedict XVI People who are old and known to be ill: 13. Denis Norden 14. Herman Wouk 15. Bob Dole 16. Leslie Phillips 17. King Michael of Romania People who aren't necessarily old but are still ill enough: 18. Leah Bracknell 19. Nobby Stiles 20. Jill Gascione 21. Valerie Harper Wild card picks (picks who don't fall into any of the categories above but are the best/most interesting from the remaining 14 imo of course): 22. Lord Peter Carrington 23. Honor Blackman (I see her being Zsa Zsa's replacement) 24. Hosni Mubarak 25. Emperor Akihito Picks who should return to the deathlist after some form of a hiatus (in order of when they made their first appearance): 26. Ozzy Osbourne 26. Henry Kissinger 27. Sean Connery 28. Aretha Franklin 29. Clive James 30. Doris Day 31. Jacques Chirac Picks who are currently ill enough and famous enough 32. John McCain 33. Olivia Newton-John 34. Morgan Tsvangirai 35. Johnny Hallyday Picks who are ill but not necessarily that famous in my eyes at least, but would still be justified to make the list: 36. Stefan Karl Stefansson 37. Tessa Jowell 38. Jose Jose People who are old and ill enough: 39. Charlotte Rae 40. Barbara Bush 41. Franco Zeffereli 42. Sumner Redstone 43. Loretta Lynn Interesting old people: 44. Sidney Poitier 45. Mikhail Gorbachev 46. Mel Brooks 47. Glynis Johns 48. Harry Belafonte 49. Jean Grand Duke of Luxembourg 50. Charles Manson 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet 251 Posted October 22, 2017 Keep: 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Vera Lynn 3. Billy Graham 4. Lord Carrington 5. Prince Philip 6. Denis Norden 7. Pierre Cardin 8. Stan Lee 9. Olivia De Havilland 10. Herman Wouk 11. Bob Dole 12. Leah Bracknell 13. Jimmy Carter 14. Leslie Phillips 15. Robert Mugabe 16. King Michael 17. Nobby Stiles 18. Jill Gascoine 19. Bob Barker 20. George Bush Senior 21. David Prowse 22. Queen Elizabeth 23. Benedict 24. Valerie Harper 25. Fats Domino New/bring back: 1. John McCain 2. Stefan Karl Stefansson 3. Roberta McCain 4. Charles Manson 5. Olivia Newton-John 6. Prince Henrik 7. Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg 8. Prunella Scales 9. Norman Lloyd 10. Sean Connery 11. Lindsay Sandiford 12. Terry Jones 13. Wolfgang Bosbach 14. Efraín Ríos Montt 15. Charlotte Rae 16. Doris Day 17. Tessa Jowell 18. Hutton Gibson 19. Clive James 20. Linda Nolan 21. Jose Jose 22. Jacques Chirac 23. Gerd Müller 24. Johnny Hallyday 25. Henry Kissinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pampams 5 Posted October 22, 2017 1Kirk Douglas 2Vera Lynn 3Billy Graham 4Lord (Peter) Carrington 5Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh 6Denis Norden 7Pierre Cardin 8Stan Lee 9Olivia De Havilland 10Herman Wouk 11Bob Dole 12Leah Bracknell 13Jimmy Carter 14Leslie Phillips 15Robert Mugabe 16Javier Perez de Cuellar 17King Michael of Romania 18Betty White 19Nobby Stiles 20Queen Elizabeth II 21Jill Gascoine 22Bob Barker 23Doug Ellis 24George Bush Senior 25Honor Blackman 26Ian St John 27David Prowse 28Sandy Gall 29Pope Benedict XVI 30Fats Domino 31Hosni Mubarak 32Desmond Tutu 33Emperor Akihito 34Gay Byrne 35Valerie Harper 36Ozzy Ozborne 37Stephen King 38Meatloaf 39Hugh Jackman 40Stephen Hawking 41The Chuckle Brothers 43Aretha Franklin 44Twiggy Lawson 45Mel Brooks 46Charles Manson 47MichaelJFox 48MatthewPerry 49SirRobertCharlton 50JillGascoine :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebless 203 Posted October 23, 2017 My current 2018 suggestions Keep Kirk Douglas Vera Lynn Billy Graham Lord Carrington Duke of Edinburgh Denis Norden Pierre Cardin Stan Lee Olivia De Haviland Herman Wouk Bob Dole Leah Bracknell Leslie Phillips Robert Mugabe Jerez Perez De Cueller King Michael of Romania Nobby Stiles Jill Gascoine Bob Barker George Bush Sr Pope Benedict Hosni Mubarak Desmond Tutu Gay Byrne Valerie Harper New/bring back Jacques Chirac Clive James Prunella Scales Jimmy Greaves Doris Day Murray Walker Tessa Jowell Linda Nolan Shane McGowan Richard Baker Stanley Baxter Mark E Smith Roger Bannister Martin Peters John McCain Malcolm Young Rolf Harris Johnny Halliday Gudrun Ure Harry Belafonte Charlotte Rae Sheila Mercier Barbara Bush Pete Murray Olivia Newton-John 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,028 Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 20:09, Bibliogryphon said: Some good names on there but some don't feel deathlisty. I think Baroness Trumpington deserves a place just for the interview she gave on Radio 4 when asked "Why are you retiring?" She replied "Because I'm so bloody old" Next Dunn Just saw her interview on Newsnight tonight. Seems to be one of these tough old birds, but nevertheless, radar-worthy.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Life Is Beautiful 716 Posted October 23, 2017 How can you miss Jeanne Moreau, Gisèle Casadesus and Danielle Darrieux! That's three great French leading ladies in one month! I say next year should have like three to five European actresses: Monica Vitti (A MUST) Gina Lollobrigida Sophia Loren Claudia Cardinale Brigitte Bardot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewsky1211 4,731 Posted October 26, 2017 My Thoughts: Keep: 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Vera Lynn 3. Billy Graham 4. Lord Carrington 5. Prince Philip 6. Denis Norden 7. Pierre Cardin 8. Stan Lee 9. Olivia de Havilland 10. Herman Wouk 11. Bob Dole 12. Leah Bracknell 13. Jimmy Carter 14. Leslie Phillips 15. JP de Cuellar 16. King Michael 17. Nobby Stiles 18. Jill Gascoine 19. Bob Barker 20. George H. W. Bush 21. Honor Blackman 22. David Prowse 23. Pope Benedict XVI 24. Akihito 25. Valerie Harper New/Return 26. John McCain 27. Stephen Hawking 28. Doris Day 29. Clive James 30. Eileen Derbyshire 31. Cloris Leachman 32. Henry Kissinger 33. Sean Connery 34. Carl Reiner 35. Olivia Newton-John 36. Norman Lloyd 37. Tom Lehrer 38. Yoko Ono 39. Wilford Brimley 40. Mel Brooks 41. Ed Asner 42. Dick Van Dyke 43. Walter Mondale 44. Stephen Hillenburg 45. Charles Aznavour 46. Beverly Cleary 47. Buzz Aldrin 48. Chuck Yeager 49. Jack Nicholson 50. Burt Reynolds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,437 Posted October 26, 2017 Oh go on then, just a bit of fun, as Peter Snow used to say. DROP (in order from hardest to easiest) 1. Desmond Tutu 2. Ian St John 3. Honor Blackman 4. Hosni Mubarak 5. Sandy Gall 6. Gay Bryne 7. Pierre Cardin 8. David Prowse 9. Bob Barker KEEP 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Vera Lynn 3. Billy Graham 4. Lord Carrington 5. Prince Philip 6. Denis Norden 7. Stan L 8. Olivia de Havilland 9. Herman Wouk 10. Bob Dole 11. Leah Bracknell 12. Jimmy Carter 13. Leslie Philips 14. Robert Mugabe 15. Javier Perez de Cuellar 16. King Michael of Romania 17. Betty White 18. Nobby Stiles 19. Queen Elizabeth II 20. Jill Gascoine 21. Doug Ellis 22. George Bush Sr 23. Pope Bendict XVI 24. Akihito 25. Valerie Harper RETURNEES 26. Stephen Hawking 27. Jacques Chirac 28. Jimmy Greaves 29. Henry Kissinger 30. Doris Day 31. Clive James 32. Aretha Franklin 33. Angela Lansbury 34. Sean Connery NEWCOMERS 35. John McCain 36. John Hume 37. Tessa Jowell 38. Johnny Hallyday 39. Ginger Baker 40. Fernando Ricksen 41. Charlotte Rae 42. Franco Zefferelli 43. Gorbachev 44. David Attenborough 45. Charles Manson 46. Eva Marie Saint 47. Barbara Bush 48. Sidney Poitier 49. Sir Roger Bannister 50. Gene Hackman 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pampams 5 Posted November 8, 2017 On 26/10/2017 at 20:54, msc said: Oh go on then, just a bit of fun, as Peter Snow used to say. DROP (in order from hardest to easiest) 1. Desmond Tutu 2. Ian St John 3. Honor Blackman 4. Hosni Mubarak 5. Sandy Gall 6. Gay Bryne 7. Pierre Cardin 8. David Prowse 9. Bob Barker KEEP 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Vera Lynn 3. Billy Graham 4. Lord Carrington 5. Prince Philip 6. Denis Norden 7. Stan L 8. Olivia de Havilland 9. Herman Wouk 10. Bob Dole 11. Leah Bracknell 12. Jimmy Carter 13. Leslie Philips 14. Robert Mugabe 15. Javier Perez de Cuellar 16. King Michael of Romania 17. Betty White 18. Nobby Stiles 19. Queen Elizabeth II 20. Jill Gascoine 21. Doug Ellis 22. George Bush Sr 23. Pope Bendict XVI 24. Akihito 25. Valerie Harper RETURNEES 26. Stephen Hawking 27. Jacques Chirac 28. Jimmy Greaves 29. Henry Kissinger 30. Doris Day 31. Clive James 32. Aretha Franklin 33. Angela Lansbury 34. Sean Connery NEWCOMERS 35. John McCain 36. John Hume 37. Tessa Jowell 38. Johnny Hallyday 39. Ginger Baker 40. Fernando Ricksen 41. Charlotte Rae 42. Franco Zefferelli 43. Gorbachev 44. David Attenborough 45. Charles Manson 46. Eva Marie Saint 47. Barbara Bush 48. Sidney Poitier 49. Sir Roger Bannister 50. Gene Hackman Hi was not aware people can be dropped. Revising now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted November 9, 2017 Initial Shadowlist - will be updated weekly as I scour the threads and news pages for any info. I'll keep a log of alterations and compare this initial version to my actual shadowlist at the end of next year. George H.W Bush Barbara Bush Prince Philip Fernando Ricksen Robert Mugabe King Michael of Romania Harvey Weinstein Stirling Moss Gordon Banks Pope Benedict Betty White Doug Ellis Hosni Mubarak Kieth Richards Vera Lynn Clarissa Eden Sheila Mercier Billy Graham Kirk Douglas June Brown Eileen Derbyshire Lord Carrington King Michael of Romania Johnny Ruffo John McCain Leah Bracknell June Spencer Tom Baker Richard O'Sullivan Michael Parkinson Billy Connolly Stefan Karl Stefanson Arthur Scargill Quentin Blake Terry Jones Ray Readon (85 so 100 in snooker terms) Shane McGowan Paul Gascoine Ken Dodd Greg Gilbert Stanley Baxter Carol Channing Ozzy Osbourne Rayya Ellias Lester Piggot Little Richard Doris Day Nigel Lawson Mikhael Gorbachev Desmond Tutu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gooseberry Crumble 5,337 Posted November 11, 2017 On 09/11/2017 at 23:30, Deathray said: Initial Shadowlist - will be updated weekly as I scour the threads and news pages for any info. I'll keep a log of alterations and compare this initial version to my actual shadowlist at the end of next year. George H.W Bush Barbara Bush Prince Philip Fernando Ricksen Robert Mugabe King Michael of Romania Harvey Weinstein Stirling Moss Gordon Banks Pope Benedict Betty White Doug Ellis Hosni Mubarak Kieth Richards Vera Lynn Clarissa Eden Sheila Mercier Billy Graham Kirk Douglas June Brown Eileen Derbyshire Lord Carrington King Michael of Romania Johnny Ruffo John McCain Leah Bracknell June Spencer Tom Baker Richard O'Sullivan Michael Parkinson Billy Connolly Stefan Karl Stefanson Arthur Scargill Quentin Blake Terry Jones Ray Readon (85 so 100 in snooker terms) Shane McGowan Paul Gascoine Ken Dodd Greg Gilbert Stanley Baxter Carol Channing Ozzy Osbourne Rayya Ellias Lester Piggot Little Richard Doris Day Nigel Lawson Mikhael Gorbachev Desmond Tutu I love June Spencer as Peggy so I really hope she's safe next year! The rest of your list is very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,437 Posted December 24, 2017 My all exciting (hah) last guess at the shape of next years Deathlist. I look forward to seeing how wrong it is! (number = 2017 spot) 1. George Bush Sr (28) 2. Leah Bracknell (14) 3. Kirk Douglas (1) 4. Rev. Billy Graham (3) 5. John McCain (NEW) 6. Prince Philip (6) 7. Clive James (-) 8. Olivia de Havilland (1) 9. Vera Lynn (2) 10. Nobby Stiles (23) 11. Tessa Jowell (NEW) 12. Sean Connery (-) 13. Lord Carrington (4) 14. Bob Dole (13) 15. Robert Mugabe (18) 16. Mikhail Gorbachev (NEW) 17. Stan Lee (9) 18. Jimmy Carter (15) 19. Javier Perez de Cuellar (19) 20. Henry Kissinger (-) 21. Barbara Bush (NEW) 22. Angela Lansbury (-) 23. Leslie Philips (17) 24. Denis Norden (7) 25. Queen Elizabeth II (24) 26. Sidney Poitier (NEW) 27. Jimmy Greaves (-) 28. Herman Wouk (11) 29. David Attenborough (NEW) 30. Gene Hackman (NEW) 31. Akihito (41) 32. Fernando Ricksen (NEW) 33. Willie Nelson (NEW) 34. John Hume (NEW) 35. Jacques Chirac (-) 36. Jill Gascoine (25) 37. Pope Benedict XVI (36) 38. Ian Holm (NEW) 39. Stirling Moss (NEW) 40. Desmond Tutu (40) 41. Prunella Scales (-) 42. Douglas Hurd (NEW) 43. Franco Zeffirelli (NEW) 44. Honor Blackman (29) 45. Dean Francis (NEW) 46. Diana Athill (NEW) 47. Betty White (22) 48. Charlotte Rae (NEW) 49. Ray Wilson (NEW) 50. Valerie Harper (46) dropped - Gay Byrne, Hosni Mubarak, Sandy Gall, David Prowse, Ian St John, Bob Barker, Pierre Cardin, Doug Ellis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Russ 7,220 Posted July 6, 2018 I'm not going to try and guess which 25 are debuting/returning to the list until around November/December, however, I'm going to say my opinion on which of this year's squad should return to the list if no one else dies (note, it's my opinion rather than what the committee will actually do if all of these people survive). Centenarians (or will be centenarians next year): 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Herman Wouk 3. Olivia de Haviland 4. Lord Peter Carrington 5. Vera Lynn Old people that could be potential bedblockers in the future (though I think a few of these are on the way out, those people are *): 6. Prince Philip 7. JPCD (he's on 5 lists already, would be a waste to drop at this point imo) 8. Stan Lee* 9. Bob Dole* 10. Robert Mugabe 11. George Bush Sr* 12. Henry Kissinger 13. Denis Norden Those who are old but are ill enough to stay on the list: 14. Stirling Moss 15. Leslie Phillips 16. Neil Simon Those who aren't necessarily old, but are ill enough to warrant a carry over: 17. Leah Bracknell 18. John McCain 19. Jill Gascoine 20. Clive James The last five are for people who I think will make the list as the most deathlisty (though 4 of these are people who will be 96 or older next year, thus being too old to drop imo): 21. Betty White 22. Pierre Cardin 23. Doris Day 24. Bob Barker 25. Pope Benedict XVI 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet 251 Posted November 4, 2018 Possible 2019 List: 1. Kirk Douglas 2. Herman Wouk 3. George Alagiah 4. Olivia De Havilland 5. George Bush Senior 6. Sheila Mercier 7. Vera Lynn 8. Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh 9. Stan Lee 10. Olivia Newton-John 11. Fernando Ricksen 12. Bob Dole 13. Bill Turnbull 14. Pierre Cardin 15. Henry Kissinger 16. Nobby Stiles 17. Rolf Harris 18. Betty White 19. Stirling Moss 20. Leah Bracknell 21. Pope Benedict XVI 22. Leslie Phillips 23. Jimmy Carter 24. James Randi 25. June Whitfield 26. Jill Gascoine 27. Javier Perez de Cuellar 28. Murray Walker 29. Nicholas Parsons 30. Sean Connery 31. Clive James 32. Jacques Chirac 33. Douglas Hurd 34. Valerie Harper 35. Tim Conway 36. Harry Belafonte 37. Glynis Johns 38. Stanley Baxter 39. Terry Jones 40. Martin Peters 41. Billy Connolly 42. Bill Treacher 43. Kenneth Cope 44. Joni Mitchell 45. Jimmy Greaves 46. Jean-Louis Trintignant 47. Trevor Peacock 48. Barbara Windsor 49. Gudrun Ure 50. Shane MacGowan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebless 203 Posted November 5, 2018 My current 2019 list Keep Kirk Douglas Leah Bracknell Hernan Wouk Olivia De Havilland Duke of Edinburgh Betty White Javier Perez De Cuellar Pierre Cardin Stan Lee Stirling Moss Doris Day Bob Dole Bob Barker Leslie Phillips Jill Gascoine Vera Lynn Robert Mugabe George Bush Sr Henry Kissinger Pope Benedict June Brown Sean Connery Clive James Olivia Newton-John Paul Gascoigne New/returning Nobby Stiles Queen Elizabeth II Jacques Chirac Doddie Weir I.M Pei George Alagiah Shane McGowan Rolf Harris Murray Walker Barbara Windsor John McCririck Willie Nelson Terry Jones Ennio Morricone Harry Belafonte Nicholas Parsons Richard Baker Bill Treacher Sheila Mercier Emperor Akihito Douglas Hurd Bill Turnbull John Hume Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg Peter Oosterhuis 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted November 6, 2018 For the record, the rules are that the Committee 'can keep no more than 25' from the previous year. There was a lot of shite on this year's list, apart from those who died and maybe another 15 ancient folk. There is no rule saying the Committee MUST bring back 25 of the previous year's names, and all y'all keep saying 'here are the 25 I would keep'. Allow Sir C to suggest there will be less than 25 keepers so feel free to add plenty of new names. SC On 06/07/2018 at 11:20, Joey Russ said: I'm not going to try and guess which 25 are debuting/returning to the list until around November/December - *snip* From the homepage: "Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die in the near future and only 25 candidates can reappear from the previous year’s list." Nowhere does it say 25 candidates MUST reappear. Just that only that many CAN reappear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,570 Posted November 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Sir Creep said: For the record, the rules are that the Committee 'can keep no more than 25' from the previous year. There was a lot of shite on this year's list, apart from those who died and maybe another 15 ancient folk. There is no rule saying the Committee MUST bring back 25 of the previous year's names, and all y'all keep saying 'here are the 25 I would keep'. Allow Sir C to suggest there will be less than 25 keepers so feel free to add plenty of new names. SC From the homepage: "Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die in the near future and only 25 candidates can reappear from the previous year’s list." Nowhere does it say 25 candidates MUST reappear. Just that only that many CAN reappear. When I was listing the 15 I think should be taken off. I got to 14 and the last place was hard to pick because I could understand why each of them would deserve a place on the list. So I would say there are at least 27 good names remaining but the committee might have BETTER names. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewsky1211 4,731 Posted December 29, 2018 Here's a possibility. 1. Kirk Douglas (1) 2. Herman Wouk (3) 3. Vera Lynn (23) 4. Prince Philip (5) 5. Javier Perez de Cuellar (11) 6. Olivia de Havilland (4) 7. Sheila Mercier (NEW) 8. Stirling Moss (14) 9. Betty White (7) 10. Bob Dole (17) 11. Pierre Cardin (12) 12. Leah Bracknell (2) 13. Jill Gascoine (22) 14. Nobby Stiles (-) 15. Leslie Phillips (21) 16. Tim Conway (NEW) 17. Bob Barker (18) 18. Barbara Windsor (NEW) 19. Doris Day (16) 20. Robert Mugabe (24) 21. Murray Walker (-) 22. Glynis Johns (NEW) 23. Prunella Scales (19) 24. Nicholas Parsons (-) 25. Henry Kissinger (27) 26. Rosalynn Carter (NEW) 27. Jacques Chirac (-) 28. Queen Elizabeth II (-) 29. James Randi (-) 30. Terry Jones (NEW) 31. Frank Bough (-) 32. Pope Benedict XVI (34) 33. John Hume (NEW) 34. Willie Nelson (NEW) 35. Olivia Newton-John (47) 36. Jimmy Carter (20) 37. June Brown (36) 38. John McCririck (NEW) 39. Clive James (44) 40. Peter Alliss (-) 41. Mikhail Gorbachev (NEW) 42. Bob Hawke (NEW) 43. Peter Tork (-) 44. Little Richard (NEW) 45. Stanley Baxter (31) 46. Gay Byrne (-) 47. Sidney Poitier (NEW) 48. Jerry Lee Lewis (-) 49. Jimmy Greaves (42) 50. David Attenborough (NEW) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
