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As the Birthing Pool didn't seem to go very well, I've thought of another idea.

 

Basically, pick 20 dead 'celebrities' who died pre-1939 (i.e. World War II) and you get a point for every time they get mentioned in relation to a story on the website of a nationwide newspaper in the English language. The story has to be in some way about them as a figure, not about them peripherally (e.g. no bollocks like "what would George Washington make of Donald Trump..." blah blah blah.

 

If the same story is taken up by multiple news sources, you still only get a single point per original news story.

 

Something a bit different, anyway.

 

Anyone who can get a list of 20 historical figures in before the end of April can participate and the final score will be due on 31 December 2018.

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Edit: Misread the rules. Sorry...

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pre-1939?

1. Charles Dickens

2. Emily Bronte

3. Anne Bronte

4. Charlotte Bronte

5. J. Sheridan le Fanu

6. M.R. James

7. Arthur Conan Doyle

8. Oscar Wilde

9. Thomas Hardy

10. Alfred, Lord Tennyson

11. Wilfred Owen

12. Anthony Trollope

13. Edgar Allan Poe

14. Mary Robinson (actress/poet)

15. Lord Byron

16. Mary Shelley

17. Ambrose Bierce

18. Edward Bulwer-Lytton

19. William Shakespeare

20. Queen Victoria

 

Put Vickie on for a bit of a laugh.

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I wonder if that works...

 

Tsar Nicolaj II Romanov

Tsarina Alexandra Romanov

Grand Duchess Olga Romanov

Grand Duchess Tatiana Romanov

Grand Duchess Maria Romanov

Grand Duchess Anastasia Romanov

Crown Prince Alexej Romanov

Grand Duke Sergei Mikhailovich Romanov

Prince Konstantin Konstantinovich Romanov

Prince Ioann Konstantinovich Romanov

Prince Igor Konstantinovich Romanov

Prince Vladimir Pavlovich Romanov

Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich Romanov

Karl Marx

Frederick Douglass

Tsar Alexander II

Emily Bronte

Charlotte Bronte

Anne Bronte

German Emperor Wilhelm II Friedrich Engels

 

Edit: Sorry, I forgot that Wilhelm II died in 1941.

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17 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Karl Marx

 

Good shout!

 

 

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1. Emmeline Pankhurst

2. P.T Barnum

3. Arthur Conan Doyle

4.  Edward Smith (Titanic Captain)

5. Rudolph Valentino

6. J.M Barrie

7.George Stephenson

8.King George V

9.Grigori Rasputin

10.William McKinley

11. George Mallory

12.Wilfred Owen

13. Vincent Van Gogh

14. Jane Austen

15. Alois Alzheimer

16. Fyodor Dostoyevsy

17. Claude Monet

18. Thomas Hardy

19. Leo Tolstoy

20. Lewis Carrol

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Jean Harlow

Rudolph Valentino

Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle

Bessie Smith

Cleopatra

Julius Caesar

Marie Antoinette

Louis XVI

Louis XIV

Charles Darwin

Victoria

Vincent Van Gogh

Leonardo Da Vinci

Sigmund Freud

Napoleon Bonaparte

Marie Curie

Harry Houdini

Mata Hari

Amelia Earhart

Jesus Christ

 

You said pre 1939. Pre 1939 it is. :) 

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Who's going to track the scoring on this?  It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. 

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01. Kate Cranston

02. George Forrest

03. James Hogg

04. Sir Alexander Mackenzie

05. Allan Ramsay

06. Saint Mungo

07. Catherine Helen Spence

08. Alexander Wilson

09. Allan Pinkerton

10. Carolina Oliphant, Lady Nairne

11. Sir David Wilkie

12. David Hume, Baron Hume of Ninewells

13. John Graham of Claverhouse, 1st Viscount Dundee

14. Cardinal David Beaton

15. John Stewart, 1st Earl of Atholl

16. Edward Balliol

17. Roderick Murchison

18. Reverend John Thomson of Duddingston

19. James Young Simpson

20.Dugald Stewart

 

There you go, 20 famous Scots. But of course, none will get a mention in a national newspaper - they're too busy with Magna Carta, WWII, the 1966 World Cup Final, etc etc etc.

 

Good luck with this though...;)

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15 minutes ago, Toast said:

Who's going to track the scoring on this?  It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. 

Because of the nature of the beast, I think it will have to rely on the participants posting relevant articles to at least some extent.

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9 hours ago, Toast said:

Who's going to track the scoring on this?  It's going to be a bit more demanding than just looking for a single QO. 

That's what I was thinking.Logistically bonkers 

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Just out of curiosity as I've already put my team in, would you have accepted Jack The Ripper?

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On 4/24/2018 at 05:11, Handrejka said:

Just out of curiosity as I've already put my team in, would you have accepted Jack The Ripper?

Not unless you had definitive proof of his identity ;)

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I guess I should submit a team for this one. That'd give it a step up from my previous pool-running attempt

 

1. Benjamin Franklin

2. Thomas Edison

3. Wilfred Owen

4. Emmeline Pankhurst

5. Erich Ludendorff

6. Archduke Franz Ferdinand

7. Tutenkhamun

8. George Washington

9. Alexander the Great

10. King John (the one of Magna Carta fame)

11. Cpt. James Cook

12. Fyodor Dostoevsky

13. Henry VIII

14. Eamon de Valera Not dead enough, for shame.

15. Woodrow Wilson

16. Roland Garros

17. Gustave Flaubert

18. Fritz Haber

19. VI Lenin

20. William Shakespeare.

 

Good luck to all those who venture on these unknown seas and have taken a plunge in the Historically Already Dead Pool.

 

The most dead award so far goes to Tutenkhamun (I think) who's been dead 3,341 years.

 

Most debated will no doubt be Jesus Christ, in order to differentiate between articles about the man and those articles about the religious concept.

 

Ah, what larks await!

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Bit of a woopsie on the host's end there, Eamon de Valera died in 1975.

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6 hours ago, Death Impends said:

Bit of a woopsie on the host's end there, Eamon de Valera died in 1975.

Of course he did. Somehow when I read his Wikipedia page, I read that as 1935. I think its time for my new prescription (glasses or drugs, feel free to make your own mind up which).

 

Leaves me down to 19 players then.

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Come very late to the party on this one but as a history teacher I may as well throw my hat into the ring. In no particular order:

 

1. Amelia Earhart

2. Isambard Kingdom Brunel

3. Queen Victoria

4. Millicent Fawcett

5. Woodrow Wilson

6. Manfred von Richthofen (The Red Baron)

7. Leonardo da Vinci

8. Thomas Edison

9. Wilfred Owen

10. Emily Bronte

11. William Shakespeare

12. Lord Horatio Nelson

13. Mary Shelley

14. Gavrilo Princip

15. Simon Bolivar

16. Emmeline Pankhurst

17. JMW Turner

18. Jane Austen

19. King George V

20. Vladimir Lenin

 

Eclectic mix with no great thought behind it, save a few notables for this year. Whether I'll be around to claim many hits is debatable but you never know... :rolleyes:

 

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1. George Washington 

2. John Adams 

3. Thomas Jefferson 

4. James Madison

5. James Monroe 

6. John Quincy Adams 

7. Andrew Jackson 

8. Martin Van Buren

9. William Henry Harrison 

10. John Tyler 

11. James K Polk

12. Zachary Taylor 

13. Millard Fillmore 

14. Franklin Pierce

15. James Buchanan 

16. Abraham Lincoln 

17. Andrew Johnson

18. Ulysses S Grant 

19. Rutherford B Hayes

20. James Garfield

 

 

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Actually, let me just start the avalanche: this post will be edited whenever there is an article about Karl Marx in a national newspaper in the english language:

 

May 1st (plus the one in the post above):

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/karl-marx-at-200-what-did-he-get-right-1.3471229

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/46517/What+to+read+by%2C+and+about%2C+Karl+Marx

https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/200th-birthday-of-karl-marx-germany-is-split-over-celebrations/video-v8WtGR4hM2fFXFLxqd3hKK.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2144196/karl-marx-200-giant-chinese-statue-has-become-figure (Hong Kong newspaper - does it count?)

http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2018/may/01/karl-marx-at-200-germany-torn-over-revolutionary-philosophers-legacy-1808725.html

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/opinion/on-may-day-karl-marx-unmasked-capitalism-plunder-and-prosperity (also has Friedrich Engels in it)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5677717/Colourful-parades-rallies-place-world-mark-Day.html (Google News says there's Karl Marx in there)

 

 

May 2nd:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/no-happy-200th-birthday-karl-marx/news-story/ea3258f7a50b5116a365c2091e2fa475

 

 

May 3rd:

https://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21741531-his-bicentenary-marxs-diagnosis-capitalisms-flaws-surprisingly-relevant-rulers

https://www.wsj.com/articles/marxs-apologists-should-be-red-in-the-face-1525388258

http://nationalpost.com/news/world/happy-birthday-karl-marx-we-could-have-done-without-the-millions-dead

http://www.newtimes.co.rw/international/president-xi-attend-conference-mark-karl-marxs-birth

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/karl-marx-s-insights-retain-their-clout-and-relevance-1.3481696 (also Friedrich Engels)

 

 

May 4th:

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/karl-marx-200-years-anniversary-left-wing-novelists-george-orwell-hg-wells-john-steinbeck-a8333991.html (Karl Marx and a couple of others - but does The Independent count?)

 https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/04/aaron-bastani-five-books-to-understand-marx (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)

https://www.csmonitor.com/Books/2018/0504/Karl-Marx-turns-200-Are-his-ideas-still-relevant

http://www.stltoday.com/news/world/xi-praises-marxism-as-a-tool-for-china-to-win/article_8781816f-4007-514b-af88-031fc24337ab.html

https://nation.com.pk/04-May-2018/china-will-continue-to-hold-high-the-great-banner-of-marxism-xi-says

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5690075/Xi-praises-Marxism-tool-China-win-future.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2144716/stick-karl-marxs-true-path-xi-jinping-tells-chinas

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/china-s-xi-hails-karl-marx-s-brilliant-light-of-truth-1.3484091

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/Xi-praises-Marxism-as-a-tool-for-China-to-win-12886964.php

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/955152/EU-news-Jean-Claude-Juncker-Karl-Marx-anniversary-Trier-Germany-latest

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/marx-in-a-time-of-superpower-trade-wars-20180504-p4zdfc.html

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/chinese-president-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china-131322

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/no-regrets-xi-jinping-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china/articleshow/64025767.cms

https://www.ft.com/content/cf6532dc-4c67-11e8-97e4-13afc22d86d4

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news.php?id=106808&sid=3

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/the-young-karl-marx-birth-of-a-working-class-superhero-1.3481533 (also Friedrich Engels)

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1100715.shtml

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/in-other-news/040518/karl-marx-is-here-dont-miss-him.html (also Friedrich Engels)

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/world/2018/05/04/no-regrets-xi-says-marxism-still-totally-correct-for-china/

https://www.nst.com.my/world/2018/05/365585/critical-us-china-trade-talks-enter-second-day-beijing

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44009621 (also Friedrich Engels)

 

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Congratulations to Gcreptile on his inevitable win, but try not scare Heef away with algrebra requiring points tallies now.

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