msc 18,479 Posted August 15, 2018 3 hours ago, YoungWillz said: Hope yer all geared up for 9th October, the 34th anniversary of the first UK showing of Thomas and Gordon. You know, his big claim to fame! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun-e-ral 61 Posted September 9, 2018 On 20/06/2018 at 18:30, Zsa Zsa's leg said: He'll be the last living Beatle. No, that will be Pete Best . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted September 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Fun-e-ral said: No, that will be Pete Best . Pete was obviously a Burt Reynolds fan in the 70s: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fun-e-ral 61 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Davey Jones' Locker said: Pete was obviously a Burt Reynolds fan in the 70s: Or a Harry Enfield fan in the 90s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted September 9, 2018 Just been reading about him since I didn't know much about the guy (Best, not Enfield.) Actually seems like a decent bloke - and, of course the rest of the Beatles and Epstein treated him like sh*t. Wankers. Update: actually he seems like a bit of a wanker too but nowhere near as wanky a wanker as the rest of them. Although not a great talent, I'd put him in the same class of musician as Ray Wilson - guys who were screwed over and treated like dirt by their bandmates and management. https://www.afr.com/lifestyle/arts-and-entertainment/music/sacked-beatle-pete-best-has-unfinished-business-with-paul-mccartney-20180405-h0ye02 Update 2: tried to kill himself in the mid-1960s over what the Beatles did to him until his family knocked some sense into him. Really does seem like a decent bloke in this overview: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-447201/Pete-Best-The-happiest-Beatle-all.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted September 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Davey Jones' Locker said: Just been reading about him since I didn't know much about the guy (Best, not Enfield.) Actually seems like a decent bloke - and, of course the rest of the Beatles and Epstein treated him like sh*t. Wankers. Update: actually he seems like a bit of a wanker too but nowhere near as wanky a wanker as the rest of them. Although not a great talent, I'd put him in the same class of musician as Ray Wilson - guys who were screwed over and treated like dirt by their bandmates and management. https://www.afr.com/lifestyle/arts-and-entertainment/music/sacked-beatle-pete-best-has-unfinished-business-with-paul-mccartney-20180405-h0ye02 Update 2: tried to kill himself in the mid-1960s over what the Beatles did to him until his family knocked some sense into him. Really does seem like a decent bloke in this overview: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-447201/Pete-Best-The-happiest-Beatle-all.html To be fair in the mid-sixties it must have been hell to think he could have been part of all that. Arguable, mind Had a fairly lively exchange a couple of years ago with a Liverpool legend of radio called Billy Butler who goes back to the early Beatles and was one of those kicking off in the Cavern about the sacking of Pete Best. It'd be fair to say Billy didn't totally agree with my Ringo Rant (ten points about why the band were lucky to get Ringo and why they'd likely have been less without him). Ringo is the best Beatle actor, the one who won the mothers of America over (and thereby sealed the band's status as acceptable in a way The Stones could never be) and he was also so down to earth he managed to keep their core fans calmer when the whole hare Krishna phase threatened to alienate them. Dunno Pete could have achieved all of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,479 Posted September 10, 2018 iirc George Martin didn't rate Pete Best as a musician. And if he had been semi-decent, you'd expect an ex-Beatle to find another home. Maybe if he'd had a tenth of Lemmy's indomitable drive in the face of adversity, he'd have a good career himself, and not been a bitter old has been 50 years on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted September 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, msc said: iirc George Martin didn't rate Pete Best as a musician. And if he had been semi-decent, you'd expect an ex-Beatle to find another home. Maybe if he'd had a tenth of Lemmy's indomitable drive in the face of adversity, he'd have a good career himself, and not been a bitter old has been 50 years on. One of those articles says he was offered a chance to have his own band but turned it down. Also the Daily Mail one says what you are more or less saying: "he was perceived to lack the ruthless ambition that Lennon would talk about later in life, the drive that got The Beatles to the peak of fame." Not sure if you'll be relieved or upset to know the Daily Mail agrees with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JQW 283 Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, msc said: iirc George Martin didn't rate Pete Best as a musician. And if he had been semi-decent, you'd expect an ex-Beatle to find another home. Maybe if he'd had a tenth of Lemmy's indomitable drive in the face of adversity, he'd have a good career himself, and not been a bitter old has been 50 years on. Various recordings with Best on drums have escaped over the years - the two sessions made in Hamburg under Bert Kaempfehrt backing Tony Sheridan, the Decca audition tape from January 1962, the Parlophone test session from June 1962 and a some BBC recordings made in Manchester. Best's drumming is very unadventurous, usually the same predictable shuffle rhythm. On the Parlophone test recording of Love Me Do his timing during the bridge section is awful - no wonder George Martin wanted to use a session drummer. When four of the Tony Sheridan recordings were issued in the US by Atco in 1964, they over-dubbed the drum parts. This is probably behind Bernard Purdie's claim to have drummed on some Beatles recordings, as he was on a lot of sessions made by Atco's parent label Atlantic at the time. Atco also put out an album, using cover versions of Beatles and other Merseybeat hits to fill it out, which Purdie may have also played on. I've also heard talk that Brian Epstein hawked the 1962 Decca audition tapes around New York in 1963/1964 to try and get them released, and may have got Purdie to over-dub drums on this session too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted September 10, 2018 ... And they said the Beatles would never reunite! All the cool members of the band, Pete Best and Tony Sheridan, live in concert: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted September 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Davey Jones' Locker said: ... And they said the Beatles would never reunite! All the cool members of the band, Pete Best and Tony Sheridan, live in concert: That's not how he played it on the original! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted July 8, 2019 Ringo puts his current impressive appearance aged 79 down to clean living including not eating "too much crap." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebless 203 Posted September 9, 2019 Ringo gives his views on Brexit. https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2019/09/09/ringo-starr-pro-brexit/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hosni Mubarak 48 Posted September 9, 2019 RIP, so sad used to love him in Thomas the Islamic tank engine, never listened to the Beatles, heard they were rubbish tbh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,727 Posted September 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Hosni Mubarak said: RIP, so sad used to love him in Thomas the Islamic tank engine, never listened to the Beatles, heard they were rubbish tbh Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swagmasta 4 Posted September 9, 2019 38 minutes ago, Hosni Mubarak said: RIP, so sad used to love him in Thomas the Islamic tank engine, never listened to the Beatles, heard they were rubbish tbh I'm pretty sure he's not dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladan 293 Posted September 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, Swagmasta said: I'm pretty sure he's not dead His monotonic lobotomic drumming proves he's been undead since 1962 or before. The Beatlshit yeah yeah yeah. Luck but no talent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,593 Posted September 9, 2019 On 08/07/2019 at 21:57, maryportfuncity said: Ringo puts his current impressive appearance aged 79 down to clean living including not eating "too much crap." Well considering the fact he was a sickly child and so could eat only a limited amount of food in adulthood - that is the reason he doesn't eat "too much crap". When The Beatles went to India he brought over his own food but then only lasted like a week because nothing agreed with him. That is why he's vegetarian/vegan. Source - Beatles Anthology book 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hosni Mubarak 48 Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Grim Up North said: Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged Get back! Get back! Get back to where you once belonged. What is this, islamaphobic abuse, people like act like you are fighting in the crusades! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FixedBusiness 407 Posted September 10, 2019 13 hours ago, bladan said: His monotonic lobotomic drumming proves he's been undead since 1962 or before. The Beatlshit yeah yeah yeah. Luck but no talent Sorry to say but it sounds like you've only heard their popular songs. Listen to some of the films on Come Together, Good Morning Good Morning and I Want You, he used polyrhythms, marching patterns etc very effectively. Top 5 favorite drummer, this is coming from a drummer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted September 10, 2019 19 hours ago, bladan said: His monotonic lobotomic drumming proves he's been undead since 1962 or before. The Beatlshit yeah yeah yeah. Luck but no talent Ahh, FFS So, to the reply above I'd add Ringo's work when he/Lennon and Klaus Voormann made up a trio for some of the songs on Lennon's Plastic Ono Band album. Oh yeah, and the onstage work in the massive All Starr Bands who like to get stuck in and play a range of each other's hits etc. And - anyway - re the "talent" he's by far the best Beatle actor. The early films were crucial to their ability to reach a family audience (massively important to breaking them stateside where Hard Day's Night and Help played in places the band would never gig) etc etc. There's a really good book about all sorts of wrong-headed Beatle ideas that has a chapter called The Ringo Rant which tackles head on the notion that Ringo got lucky joining the band and makes a clear case that Lennon and McCartney's trip to Butlins to offer him ten bob a week more than Rory Storm was paying was actually a really astute piece of Beatle business: 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,657 Posted September 10, 2019 On 09/09/2018 at 21:29, Davey Jones' Locker said: Pete was obviously a Burt Reynolds fan in the 70s: Grahame Souness, Terry McDermott - just sayin' that was a manly and respected look in Liverpool for years; doubtless there are sixty something scousers still getting culture shock when their cruise ship docks in San Francisco and two guys looking like that walk past holding hands! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cant Wait 93 Posted September 10, 2019 Ringo Starr looks on average in health. But for his looks... That’s a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
