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As OoO writes above, also the oldest Spurs player. 

Handy that both the QPR and Ipswich Town articles on his passing identify him as their oldest player too.

Was that already known @Octopus of Odstock or does it in turn remove any of names from the possibly living list?

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Gibbons and Dicker are both dead from posts on this forum.I believe Terry Merwin is the oldest Spurs player now at 88

 

 

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1 hour ago, michaelf said:

Gibbons and Dicker are both dead from posts on this forum

 

Oh come now, it's been called tasteless, perhaps with some justification, but actually causing deaths? Surely not.

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19 hours ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

Tom McGoldrick died 14th Jan 2018 after a long battle with dementia. No link I'm afraid.

Hi, I've been trying to track down Tom for a while. I did speak to Tom around 10 years ago. Could I check your source please + do you know the place he died?

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5 hours ago, KELLPA01 said:

Hi, I've been trying to track down Tom for a while. I did speak to Tom around 10 years ago. Could I check your source please + do you know the place he died?

 

Well, I noticed an edit in his Wikipedia page made by a user that has made no other edits. The information seems very accurate in the sense of a date and a reason of death. That said, I can't see anything on GRO or Scotland's People, or Find a Will on gov.uk 

 

I admit I would like something more tangible but I do find that these edits are normally pretty accurate. I'm happy to change it if someone thinks the user may know otherwise.

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 Thanks for that.there are 3 players born in 1921 who may be alive .they were recently. I hope there will be good news on them later this year

Bob gray age 97 is alive in a recent post .I don't know he did war service

Graham Thomas Bailey is alive .he is on 192.com with his third wife !

Ex huddersfield and Leeds

At least 3 players born 1921 and it goes on

 

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Reg Beresford, Alf Patrick and Jack Vitty are definitely alive. It depends on whether they served or not. 

 

I guess anyone born pre 1927 could've been involved in the war effort but its a question of whether they are a veteran or not. 

 

 

 

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Thanks both.


I’m always quite curious about WWII veteran numbers. I’ll do a bit of research on Ancestry. There should be service draft cards on there.

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32 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said:

Reg Beresford, Alf Patrick and Jack Vitty are definitely alive. It depends on whether they served or not. 

 

Alf Patrick certainly did serve - he was in the Royal Engineers. 

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On 30/08/2020 at 12:22, michaelf said:

Here ia a list of players born before 1926. where some are alive

THOMAS GRAHAM BAILEY alive in Truro age 100 address on 192.com

ALBERT BATEM AN ALIVE

REGINAL H BRESFORD alive in Walsall

Ron Brown born 1923 returned to Ireland

ERNEST BUTLER alive in Middlesbrough

DANIEL PATRICK CAMERON BORN 1923 returned to IRELAND

THOMAS CARPENTER alive

JOHN CARROLL born 1923

TREVOR CHURCHILL alive

ERIC DALE alive

THOMAS DOCHERTY born 1924 alive in Cambridge 

JAMES DONNELLY BORN 1919

PEADAR DOMNAL FALLON may have died in 2001 in LOUISBURGH.EIRE

JACK FINLAY BORN 1925 emigrated Melbournwe 1955

JOHN FISHER ALIVE

Daniel Flanagan born 1924

JOHN FOXTON ALIVE IN HANTS

JOHN GALLOWAY

JOHN GIBBONS ALIVE IN CHARLTON

ALBERT GILES ALIVE

DAVID GRAY ALIVE IN QUEENSBURY

ROBERT GARAY ALIVE GATESHEAD

PETER GREENWOOD ALIVE UPTON

ERIC HAMPSON ALIVE STOKE

EDWARD HARDING ALIVE GUILDFORD ?

REG HARRISON ALIVE DERBYSHIRE

REG HIPKIN ALIVE KENT ?

ALEX JACKSON BORN 1921 MAY BE ALIVE IN YORKSHIRE

ARNOL  JACKSON ALIVE MANCHESTER

HENRY JONES BORN 1918 HARTLEPOOL

JOHN MORRIS JONES  BORN 1924 ALIVE

JAMES PATRICK KELLY BORN 1925

MICHAEL J KELLY BORN 1920

ERYK KUBICKI ALIVE POLAND

JOHN MCBRIDE BORN 1923 EMUIGRATED ? USA

JOHN F NCCARTHY BORN 1922

EDWARD MCCREADIE WALSALL BORN 1924 ?

JOHN SUTHERLAND MCDONALD NOTTS COUNTY

EDWARD MARTIN BORN 1921 ALIVE IN ACCRINGTON ?

WILLIAM MELLOR BORN 1925

JAMES RONAL MITCHELL DIED IN TORONTO BEFORE 2017

TOM MORAN BORN 1924

JOE OLIVER ALIVE HEXHAM

WILLIAM ONEILL BORN 1919

JOHN O'SULLIVAN BORN 1922 probably died

SAM PARKER BORN 1924 ALIVE ?

WILLIAM PARKER brother of SAM alive

ALF PATRICK ALIVE

HENRY J POTTS BORN 1925 ALIVE

WILLIAM DUNLOP REID ? WIFE DIED IN VANCOUVER 1980

HERBERT ROBINSON BORN 1922

RAY RUFFETT ALIVE

ERIC SEARLE ALIVE

FREDERICK ARTHUR SHARPE EMIGRATED AUSTRALIA 1949

WILLIAM SIMPSON AGE 100 ALIVE ?

JAMES SMITH BORN 1/1/1920 WAS ALIVE 8 YEARS AGO IN BOLTON

GEORGE G STEWART MAY BE ALIVE IN PERTH AGE 99

HARRY SUTHERLAND DIED IN AUSTRALIA YEAR UNKNOWN

JAMES TAYLOR BORN 7TH APRIL 1925

JOHN TAYLOR BORN 24TH JUNE 1924

GEORGE THOMPSON BORN 5TH NOVEMBER 1913

JOHN TIGHE BORN 13TH MARCH 1923

JIHN VITTY ALIVE

SYD WARD ALIVE / born 1923

JOHN WATLING ALIVE

 KEN WHITE born 1922 alive

ERIC WILLIAMS BORN 10TH JULY 1921`

JOHN WILLIAMS BORN 21/11/1925 ALIVE IN WALES

FRANK WINTERS BORN 30TH OCTOBER 1923

VIVIAN WOODWARD EMIGRATED AUSTRALIALEN YOUNG BORN 1912 EMIGRATED AUSTRALIA

PLAYERS BELOW NO BIRTHDATE KNOWN

JAMES GRANT BRIGHTON  1947 SCOTS BORN ?

WILLIAM JOHNSTON BARROW 1947 BORN IN GREENOCK SCOTLAND

JACK PEAT WORKINGTON 1950S LIVED IN PAISLEY 1940S PLAYED IN SCOTLAND

ALEX SHAW CREWE 1946 SCOTTISH

KEN WILLIAMS WATFORD 1947

ROBERT WILSON WORKINGTON 1950S PLAYED FOR STIRLING BORN IN MOTHERWELL

 

Perhaps someone can help with some of these

 

Michael

HERBERT WILLIAMS born 19th june 1925 emigrated to canada

 

Graham Bailey does seem to still be alive, or he was last year but he's not at that address in Truro that you mentioned. I wrote to that Graham Bailey and have heard back today and it's not the same one. Do you have any more info on him by any chance?

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19 hours ago, michaelf said:

 Thanks for that.there are 3 players born in 1921 who may be alive .they were recently. I hope there will be good news on them later this year

Bob gray age 97 is alive in a recent post .I don't know he did war service

Graham Thomas Bailey is alive .he is on 192.com with his third wife !

Ex huddersfield and Leeds

At least 3 players born 1921 and it goes on

 

Not him I'm afraid, I wrote to that Graham Bailey last week and received a reply, it's not the same one. 

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On 20/03/2020 at 10:01, michaelf said:

Good morning my name is Michael Featherstone I work with Barry Hugman  on Hugman's footballers and all of his football books.

I have done a detailed search for footballers born pre 1931

John Lavery is alive I believe I spoke to him around 40 years ago his wife died in 2005

in Bradford. he is on 192.com living with his son Nigel

find my past /ancestry only have 55% of births/deaths after 2007, to check all you need to go to Westminster archives 

it is easy to miss births but i'm convinced Lavery is the footballer

Jim Smith Leyton Orient was alive in 2012 because their historian Neil Kaufman spoke to Jim Smith's sister in Bolton

I have checked the microfiches from 2011 to 2018 but cannot find his entry but I say he might be alive as there are 1000's of Smith's

Graham Bailey is 100 today. I say this because he lives in Truro and is the 2020 Electoral roll

He had 2 sons in Yorkshire The sons married in Falmouth where one of his son's played for Falmouth town

his wife died in 1985.he remarried in 1987 after moving to Truro and had 2 children .one born in 1991

that marriage broke up and he married Jan Davies in 1997 and lives with her and her children

in addition Reginald Aspinall born 3rd June 1921 is alive and lives with his wife in Walsall

William D reid's wife died in Canada in 1980 but I cannot find his death

Can you provide  a place and date of death for Stan Carr as I cannot find it

 

Michael Featherstone

Are you certain on this? I contacted that Graham Bailey last week and have today received a reply confirming it's not the same one?

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I will try to find his son

On 05/02/2021 at 21:17, Octopus of Odstock said:

Tom McGoldrick died 14th Jan 2018 after a long battle with dementia. No link I'm afraid.

Thanks for that.there are 3 players born in 1921 who may be alive .they were recently. I hope there will be good news on them later this year

Bob gray age 97 is alive in a recent post .I don't know he did war service

Graham Thomas Bailey is alive .he is on 192.com with his third wife !

Ex huddersfield and Leeds

At least 3 players born 1921 and it goes on

 

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3 hours ago, michaelf said:

I will try to find his son

Thanks for that.there are 3 players born in 1921 who may be alive .they were recently. I hope there will be good news on them later this year

Bob gray age 97 is alive in a recent post .I don't know he did war service

Graham Thomas Bailey is alive .he is on 192.com with his third wife !

Ex huddersfield and Leeds

At least 3 players born 1921 and it goes on

 

 

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On 29/09/2019 at 11:23, Octopus of Odstock said:

 

First Name Surname DoB Clubs Google Probate Other names
             
Polly Ward 15/06/1929 Bradford PA, Bradford C, Kings Lynn alive alive Lawrence Whelan
             


Whelan "Polly" Ward (wikihas died aged 91.

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