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Who Should Be On The 2020 Deathlist?

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It’s that time of year again, where we all try and push to have people like Bob the Builder to be on next year’s list but ultimately fail. So, who do you think should make an appearance on the 2020 list?

 

I will start with a bit of a subtle suggestion: WILLIE NELSON

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Eddie Van Halen

Terry Jones

Martin Peters

Alex Trebek

Gianluca Vialli

John Hume

Trevor Peacock

Ruth Bader Ginsberg 

Gerd Muller

Robert Fyfe

Tim Currie 

Bill Turnbull

Norm MacDonald

Peter Sutcliffe

Sheila Mercier

George Alagiah

Nichelle Nichols

Lee Kerslake 

Sandra Day O'Connor

Kenneth Kaunda 

Gray O'Brien 

Doddie Weir

Barbara Windsor

Tom Smith

Genesis P-Orridge 

Stevie Wonder 

Stan Bowles

Alain Delon

Everton Weekes 

Catherine Deneuve 

Gunther Von Hagans

Roy Hattersley 

Douglas Hurd

Clarissa Eden 

Rosalyn Carter

Jean Marie Le Pen

 

 

 

 

 

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Willie Nelson's a good shout, Joey, looks like death warmed up. On the pretence the Cmme read these, some obvious DL type picks:

 

Terry Jones - 5 years since diagnosis with Primary Progressive Aphasia, prognosis gets grim in Year 5 going off most famous folk who had it before.

David Attenborough - A lister 94 in 2020, surely worth a call up.

John Hume - Seriously ill with dementia, another A list name.

Alex Trebek - Got pancreatic cancer so the traditional "open goal"?

Eva Marie Saint - 96 next year, time to stop taking her for granted.

Ian Holm - wheelchair bound, increasingly frail and ill, and A list.

Roy Hattersley - Looked like fucking shit on TV interview few months ago.

James Lovelock - Oh go on, who doesn't want to add a bit of class?

 

 

As usual, law of averages suggest I'll be on the ball with one and ego will assume this post helped. :D

 

PS Angela Lansbury and Nicholas Parsons due a comeback too, surely. Right time to end this before it becomes Sean length.

 

EDIT - I didn't even know, honest!

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James Watson of DNA co-discovery (and racism) fame merits consideration. A rarity of a science-y name recognizable enough for the front page, and in poor health since a car crash late last year.

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Ryan O’Neil, a 78 year old American actor and former boxer. Having been Diagnosed with Leukemia and prostate cancer throughout later and recent years. Will he survive the 2020s? Who knows.

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27 minutes ago, msc said:

Willie Nelson - I thought so, he's touring so I'm reconsidering.  Maybe Kris Kristofferson takes this slot.
Terry Jones -  Not a goddamn chance.  I will pay for the website's annual fee for 2020, you hear me @Grim Reaper?  OTOH msc has to pay website dues if he lives.  Along with any other doofus puts him on DDP team.

David Attenborough - I hate you included this icon.  I blame you for his demise.  Still....aye, it's time.

John Hume - I guess.

Alex Trebek - OBVS

Eva Marie Saint - Meh.

Ian Holm - How is he A list?  Won't be on mine.  Damn near worth a 5-lb coffee bet.

Roy Hattersley - 2020 not his year....5-lb coffee if you disagree.  I want reciprocal coffee sent to me if I am right.  No shite coffee, something local and interesting.  You'll get Community Coffee with chicory from me.  I don't like chicory but it's a Louisiana thaaang.

James Lovelock - I guess.  No idea who the fucker is.  I'll defer.

 

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David Gulpilil- Australian  Actor has terminal lung cancer and  weeks or months to Live .Don't need to go on a "Walkabout" to notice he is a guranteed hit if picked

 

Lata Mangeshkar -The Bollywood Legend has spent the last 2 weeks in the hospital(And the family is saying she is "just fine" like all people who have long hospital stays)

 

Everton Weekes -One of Cricket's biggest Icon's had a heart attack this summer.Turns 95 in Feb

 

John Hume-He would be the first person to die who appeared in an episode of Derry Girls. A name that is too big to miss

 

Beverly Cleary -One of America most succesful  Children's Author's Turn 104 next year. Arguably way more succesful/notable then Wouk who appeared on DL multiple times, which makes her selection overdue.

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I guess I never really realized that Terry Jones wasn't on this year's list and should be a lock in 2020. Trebek is another obvious name previously mentioned.

 

Some names the committee should most likely already be familiar with.

  • George Alagiah
  • Olivia Newton-John
  • Daniel arap Moi
  • Barbara Barrie
  • Ruth Bader Ginsburg

  • Bill Turnbull

And some high quality names that were quite popular in 2019 and will most likely remain so in 2020.

  • David Gulpilil, Australian actor with advanced lung cancer.
  • Genesis P-Orridge, "singer" with advanced leukemia.
  • Jean-Louis Tritignant, accomplished French actor who ceased treatment of his cancer back in late 2018.
  • Lee Kerslake, Ozzy Osbourne's drummer with terminal prostate cancer. Probably the least obitable of the bunch.

Some decent and fairly known picks.

  • Everton Weekes, was in ICU with heart issues a few months ago and is back in hospital again. Looking downhill from here-on-out.
  • Beverly Cleary, 104 and should be a lock until she kicks it.
  • Peter Tobin, suffering from cancer in prison and the news stories surrounded him aren't in a good light (obviously, but you know what I mean).
  • David Prowse, suffering from dementia and quit public appearances a couple years ago.
  • Peter Sutcliffe, has had heart issues and is apparently on his last legs.
  • David Attenborough, stated himself that he was close to death, however he's been in the news quite frequently as late which could support either two outcomes.

Some newer names as of recently.

  • Tom Smith, Scottish rugby captain recently diagnosed with colorectal cancer which has spread to his liver and brain. 
  • Lata Mangeshkar, popular Indian singer who may not make it to the starting line.
  • Tabare Vazquez, current president of Uruguay is suffering what has been said to be stage 4 lung cancer. Is remaining in his position while undergoing treatment.
  • David Crosby, has had multiple issues with his health dealing with his heart, liver (transplant) and diabetes. He himself has said that he only expects he has at most a couple years left.
  • Samuel Little, said to be the most prolific documented serial killer in history. Has been releasing info on his previously unconfirmed killings due to him being reportedly in poor health.
  • Brian Cowen, had a brain hemorrhage back in July and not much if anything has been said about his health since. 

There is also quite a few American sporting folk who could be at the discretion of the committee for 2020.

  • Chris Doleman, HOF football player. Suffering from a glioblastoma.
  • Bob Gibson, HOF baseball player with pancreatic cancer.
  • John Andretti, race car driver apart of the notable Andretti family. Is also a champ in his own right.
  • Gale Sayers, HOF football player suffering from dementia since 2013. Wheelchair-bound and made a public appearance earlier this year and didn't look good.
  • Bill Freehan, 11x MLB all-star. Considered to be a HOFer by some. Still in hospice with Alzheimer's.
  • Henri Richard, HOF hockey player and all-time Stanley Cup win leader. Alzheimer's since 2015 and has reportedly been in poor health recently.

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If there’s one thing I’m confident that the committee will do, it’ll be ignoring American sports folk unless they have transcended that fame like Joe DiMaggio 

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Here's how I think the 2020 list should look like:

 

Keep:

Kirk Douglas

Olivia de Havilland

Vera Lynn

Prince Philip

Jimmy Carter

Pierre Cardin

Bob Dole

Javier Perez de Cuellar

Henry Kissinger

Bob Barker

Betty White

Emperor Akihito

Murray Walker

June Brown

Stirling Moss

Hosni Mubarak

Dick Van Dyke

Nobby Stiles

Barbara Walters

Desmond Tutu

Honor Blackman

Valery Giscard d'Estaing

Jimmy Greaves

Loretta Lynn

Prunella Scales

 

Bring back:

Olivia Newton-John

Angela Lansbury

Pope Benedict XVI

Stanley Baxter

Ozzy Osbourne

Jill Gascoine

Nicholas Parsons

 

Add:

Alex Trebek

Yasuhiro Nakasone

Lee Kerslake

Frankie Banali

Jean-Louis Trintignant

Lawrence Ferlinghetti

Ted Turner

Terry Jones

Tony Bennett

Bernard Tapie

James Randi

John Hume

Giorgio Napolitano

George Alagiah

David Gulpilil

Daniel arap Moi

Ruth Bader Ginsburg

Genesis P-Orridge

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My opinion:

 

Keep:

1. Kirk Douglas

2. Olivia de Havilland

3. Prince Philip

4. Vera Lynn

5. Jimmy Carter

6. Pierre Cardin

7. Bob Dole

8. Henry Kissinger

9. Jerry Stiller

10. Javier Perez de Cuellar

11. Bob Barker

12. Emperor Akihito

13. Betty White

14. June Brown

15. Stirling Moss

16. Nobby Stiles

17. Barbara Walters

18. Desmond Tutu

19. Jimmy Greaves

20. Sidney Poitier

21. Mikhail Gorbachev

22. Tony Britton

23. Prunella Scales

24. Little Richard

25. Larry King

 

Return:

26. Queen Elizabeth II

27. Peter Alliss

28. Tony Bennett

29. Jerry Lee Lewis

30. Frank Bough

31. Angela Lansbury

32. Nigel Lawson

33. James Randi

34. Nicholas Parsons

35. Leslie Phillips

36. Jill Gascoine

37. David Prowse

38. Stanley Baxter

39. Pope Benedict XVI

 

Debut:

40. Alex Trebek

41. Terry Jones

42. Sheila Mercier

43. Clarissa Eden

44. June Spencer

45. James Watson

46. Glynis Johns

47. John Hume

48. Norman Tebbit

49. David Attenborough

50. Clint Eastwood

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A few more that haven't been mentioned so far (and no I'm not giving out any top secrets):

Sam Lloyd, Alcee Hastings, Doug Supernaw, Sinisa Mihajlovic, Henry Gray: These folks need no introduction

Yoo Sang-chul: Diagnosed with stage 4 pan-can and imo DDP QO is very likely but maybe not the most DL-y of names

Judy Dyble: Just diagnosed with lung cancer but unless there is evidence it is early stage the prognosis is usually quite grim.

Syed Ali Shah Geelani: Kashmiri separatist/terrorist/whatever-you-call-him who is 90 and has been in and out of hospital lately.

Roger Scruton: Apparently a highly renowned writer and has cancer to the point of almost dying so seems pretty serious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kinda folk who might die and if you don't pick them, well.....

 

Yoko Ono

Bernard Cribbins

Richard O'Sullivan

Joan Plowright

Ozzy Osbourne (really has to be on until, you know, the inevitable)

Tom Baker (New Clive Dunn, can't miss a Doctor's appointment)

Michael Parkinson

Pele

Barry Manilow

Any Presidential Candidate (they are out on the stump in gun-lovin' America)

Jerry Lee Lewis

Betty Boothroyd

 

But hey, what do I know?

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Robert Solow, he'll be 96 next year, and he's a Nobel prize winner.

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To consider... 

 

Clive Barker - Horror Author

Lee Child - Jack Reacher Author

Barbara Windsor - Eastender

Fortune Fitzroy - Mistress of Robes

Napolitino -Italian pres

Nakashone - Japanese leader

Kay Ivey - Alabama politican. 

 

Will put more thought into it when i have time, always enjoy this thread each year. 

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7 hours ago, Sir Creep said:

 

 

Ah yes, I can see why OSCAR NOMINATED actor Sir Ian Holm with big roles in several of the biggest films of the last 50 years (Alien, the Lord of the fucking Rings trilogy, Chariots of Fire, Madness of King George, several Brannagh Shakespeares, The Hobbit, The Aviator, The Day after fucking Tomorrow, to name a few) wouldnt be A list. :facepalm: Not to mention Brazil (a bigger hit now than on release) or the Fifth Element (fucking massive at the time).

 

 

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6 hours ago, JiroemonKimura said:

Sam Lloyd, Alcee Hastings, Doug Supernaw, Sinisa Mihajlovic, Henry Gray: These folks need no introduction

 

 

I'm afraid they do. 

(Except for Sinisa Wossname, who rings a bell.  Footballer?)

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1 minute ago, Toast said:

 

I'm afraid they do. 

(Except for Sinisa Wossname, who rings a bell.  Footballer?)

 

Sam Lloyd had a role in...Scrubs iirc, Hastings is an obscure US politician, Supernaw is an obscure country music star, Mihaljovic is as you say a footballer (and a great one too, but a complete nutter), and Henry Gray is a blues musician who worked with Muddy Waters back in the day.

 

All notable people, I hasten to add, but none of them really Deathlisty...

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My 2020 list

 

Keep

 

Kirk Douglas 

Olivia De Havilland 

Duke of Edinburgh 

Vera Lynn

Jimmy Carter

Pierre Cardin

Bob Dole

Henry Kissinger

Javier Perez De Cuellar 

Bob Barker

Murray Walker

Emperor Akihito

Betty White 

Stirling Moss

Nobby Stiles

Barbara Walters

Honor Blackman

Harry Belafonte 

Jimmy Greaves

Sidney Poitier

Mikhail Gorbachev 

Tony Britton 

Prunella Scales

Little Richard

Larry King

 

New and returning

 

Pope Benedict
Olivia Newton John
Jill Gascoine
Leslie Phillips
Mel Brooks
Sean Connery
Stanley Baxter
Rolf Harris
Ennio Morricone
Tom Baker
Barbara Windsor
Nicholas Parsons
Kenneth Cope
Sandy Gall
John Hume
Terry Jones
Angela Lansbury
David Bellamy
David Prowse
David Attenborough 
Tony Bennett
George Alagiah
Jack Charlton
Desmond Morris
Alex Trebek
 

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Glynis Johns

Vera Miles

Lata Mangeshkar

Christopher Tolkien

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Some more British Royalty with the Duchess of Kent, please.

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Yasuhiro Nakasone,  Manolis Glezos, Roberta McCain

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Alright, a more in-depth list from me: 

Willie Nelson - Yes, he may still be performing, but did you see his duet with Kacey Musgraves? The man is clearly struggling to take a breath there, and it’s honestly kind of hard to watch. Seems to be on his last legs there, and I really it’s the committee’s last chance to bring him on

Genesis P-orridge - I think she’d make a perfect number 50 candidate for 2020. Similar to Mark E Smith and Johnny Clegg she’s very much a cult music name and she really had a big impact on industrial music in general. She’s definitely deathlisty imo

As for some more old folk, Buzz Aldrin is one I think should be on the list. Never had an astronaut before, but I think he’d be a great addition to the list. Also Clint Eastwood 

Oh, and bring back Leslie Phillips. Definitely do that if nothing else. 

 

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Who should be/could be No.1?

 

I think it's time for a change:

a) not Kirk Douglas for the fourth time in a row

b) it should be a woman at the top!*

 

*The last time a woman sat at the top of the DeathList was in 2015 with Zsa Zsa Gabor.

Before that only 3 other women were No.1s: Queen Mother (1991 and 2000), Doris Speed (1993) and Etta James (2012). Really a bad quote!

 

Only 2 women are eligible imo, Vera Lynn and Olivia de Havilland.

So I say it should be Vera Lynn, if she makes it to 2020.

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