TQR 14,408 Posted January 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kinnock said: He's the best of bad lot unless John McDonnell u-turns and stands I know. John McDonnell can get in the sea though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kinnock said: He's the best of bad lot unless John McDonnell u-turns and stands Do you actually want a Labour government or not? He is the guy that has hand up Corbyns arse doing his 'Gottle of gear' act ever since he got elected leader. Next you will be suggesting that Lansman take charge of the whole election proce……..oh wait a minute!!!! Come on Deathers, you must know that, unless they return back to the middle ground, well, slightly left of it, they will have zero chance of being returned to power. Maybe I should write that one up in CAPITALS so the other thick cunts can read it and take Umbridge. Oh, Deathers, get rid of that fucking Kinnock shite, you are Deathray and, as big a pain in the arse as Deathray is, I kinda miss him, ok? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted January 4, 2020 Also Kinnock was a shit. No Deathray, Neil that is. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted January 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: Do you actually want a Labour government or not? He is the guy that has hand up Corbyns arse doing his 'Gottle of gear' act ever since he got elected leader. Next you will be suggesting that Lansman take charge of the whole election proce……..oh wait a minute!!!! Come on Deathers, you must know that, unless they return back to the middle ground, well, slightly left of it, they will have zero chance of being returned to power. Maybe I should write that one up in CAPITALS so the other thick cunts can read it and take Umbridge. Oh, Deathers, get rid of that fucking Kinnock shite, you are Deathray and, as big a pain in the arse as Deathray is, I kinda miss him, ok? Kier Starmer is about as far as Corbyn as you can get without being a closet Tory. He's far more centre-left than Corbyn and willing to work with all elements of the Labour Party, he's the transitional leader who could avoid the party splitting and allow us to win an election.... and if you don't mind I'm not taking advice on who to vote for in a Labour election from a /UKIP/National Front/BNP swing voter like yourself.... And to be honest I want a Labour Party ran by the CPBGP in coalition with the SW...... So the idea Keir is the 'left wing' candidate is a bit laughable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted January 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, msc said: Also Kinnock was a shit. No Deathray, Neil that is. Eh, no he wasn't but I guess you might have gathered I thought that.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 23 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Kier Starmer is about as far as Corbyn as you can get without being a closet Tory. He's far more centre-left than Corbyn and willing to work with all elements of the Labour Party, he's the transitional leader who could avoid the party splitting and allow us to win an election.... and if you don't mind I'm not taking advice on who to vote for in a Labour election from a /UKIP/National Front/BNP swing voter like yourself.... And to be honest I want a Labour Party ran by the CPBGP in coalition with the SW...... So the idea Keir is the 'left wing' candidate is a bit laughable. Umm, so he is a left wing candidate then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: Umm, so he is a left wing candidate then. I kind of expect the Labour leader to be left wing..... it's kind of a pre-requisite..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 6, 2020 Timetable drawn up, result will be announced in conference on 4th April. Rebecca Wrong-Daily officially candidate #6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 7, 2020 Wrong-Daily would give Corbyn’s leadership 10 out of 10. Worst election performance in 84 years, and yet he’s a perfect leader? If this half-witted piss flap gets the leadership, Labour is dead. Not just their chances in the next election going down the pan. They are utterly, utterly dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,658 Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said: Wrong-Daily would give Corbyn’s leadership 10 out of 10. Worst election performance in 84 years, and yet he’s a perfect leader? If this half-witted piss flap gets the leadership, Labour is dead. Not just their chances in the next election going down the pan. They are utterly, utterly dead. Aye, well...if our poll is anything to go by Starmer is on a stormer For my money there's a problem in most parties who think themselves government material when they get slaughtered in the polls which is down to them taking on board the tanking and what it really means. All of which sometimes manifests itself in idiot leader selection (the young Hague and Duncan Smith were never Prime Minister material). So I can't easily see whoever gets this ever being PM unless Boris fucks up on a scale even he hasn't yet achieved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 7, 2020 56 minutes ago, maryportfuncity said: For my money there's a problem in most parties who think themselves government material when they get slaughtered in the polls which is down to them taking on board the tanking and what it really means. All of which sometimes manifests itself in idiot leader selection (the young Hague and Duncan Smith were never Prime Minister material). So I can't see easily see whoever gets this ever being PM unless Boris fucks up on a scale even he hasn't yet achieved. I fear you may be right. It’s highly unlikely they’ll be in government within the next decade and a half, even with someone seemingly half-competent like Starmer (I await him getting elected and proving me very wrong, very quickly). Though if all it takes is Johnson fucking it right up big time stylee then Christ knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 8, 2020 Barry Gardiner too? For fuck sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said: Barry Gardiner too? For fuck sake. I like him, but he should stick to what he’s good at; arse-licking and spin. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted January 17, 2020 The extreme left not content with chasing off the Jews and working class have now begun a beef with Catholics now. Being against abortion is a mainstream belief not an extreme one. 52% of Catholics in the UK voted labour in 2017 and there's a good chance (data not released yet) that for the first time in UK politics a majority of Catholics voted conservative in 2019 election. If momentum pulls support for RLB because of her religion that 52% in 2017 could easily turn into below 40% in 2024 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeathersPhoenix 9 Posted January 17, 2020 4 12 minutes ago, the_engineer said: 4 11 minutes ago, the_engineer said: The extreme left not content with chasing off the Jews and working class have now begun a beef with Catholics now. Being against abortion is a mainstream belief not an extreme one. 52% of Catholics in the UK voted labour in 2017 and there's a good chance (data not released yet) that for the first time in UK politics a majority of Catholics voted conservative in 2019 election. If momentum pulls support for RLB because of her religion that 52% in 2017 could easily turn into below 40% in 2024 . Oh, come off it. Catholics who voted for the Tories in 2019 were never going to vote for RLB anyway. Catholics don't fucking join momentum (unless they're having some kind of faith crisis and don't understand momentums place in the political landscape). I bid you a good day sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 17, 2020 2 hours ago, the_engineer said: The extreme left not content with chasing off the Jews and working class have now begun a beef with Catholics now. Being against abortion is a mainstream belief not an extreme one. 52% of Catholics in the UK voted labour in 2017 and there's a good chance (data not released yet) that for the first time in UK politics a majority of Catholics voted conservative in 2019 election. If momentum pulls support for RLB because of her religion that 52% in 2017 could easily turn into below 40% in 2024 . That isn't strictly true. RLB has stated that she wants to tighten the abortion laws up. As much as I think she is a lefty wanker who would be monumentally shit as a leader of a Political party, let alone a country, she may have a point. As difficult as it is to stomach, there are women out there that have had several abortions, basically, another form of contraception. Yes, there may be a whole plethora of reasons why some women are having so many and, for sure, those reasons need to be examined but, ultimately, we cannot have a society that champions the right of women to have them but does not question those that do so because of 'lifestyle' choices let alone multiple terminations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlotte's Controller 195 Posted January 17, 2020 The Labour Party and the candidates Who are they appealing to? Where is the credibility? Which socialist model do they follow? (who is going to run off with all the money if there is any left?) Overall delusions of competence, track record of failure. How efficiently are all of the Labour councils run, they employ expensive consultants to advise because they can't do the job, then because they supervise them they need to be paid more. The reason that Parliament did not want brexit was that they would become more responsible and not have to rely on Europe. I had a friend (amazing but true) whose sister worked for a MEP, expense claims were not queried beneath £500 in the eighties, the situation is bad as many years later the value of expense claims that have not received audit clearance have risen and MEPs have suppresed reports on investigations. If you go abroad there is evidence of European, law especially health and safety, being widely ignored in the UK we follow it. We need to stop bowing to the snowflakes, take care of those that need it and create more social integration by banning internet and mobiles from the under 25's. Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, Charlotte's Controller said: The Labour Party and the candidates Who are they appealing to? Where is the credibility? Which socialist model do they follow? (who is going to run off with all the money if there is any left?) Overall delusions of competence, track record of failure. How efficiently are all of the Labour councils run, they employ expensive consultants to advise because they can't do the job, then because they supervise them they need to be paid more. The reason that Parliament did not want brexit was that they would become more responsible and not have to rely on Europe. I had a friend (amazing but true) whose sister worked for a MEP, expense claims were not queried beneath £500 in the eighties, the situation is bad as many years later the value of expense claims that have not received audit clearance have risen and MEPs have suppresed reports on investigations. If you go abroad there is evidence of European, law especially health and safety, being widely ignored in the UK we follow it. We need to stop bowing to the snowflakes, take care of those that need it and create more social integration by banning internet and mobiles from the under 25's. Discuss. That would be 72% of this forums contributors, and I say contributors in the vaguest of terms, unable to get on here. I say... BRING IT ON!!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_engineer 1,415 Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: That isn't strictly true. RLB has stated that she wants to tighten the abortion laws up. As much as I think she is a lefty wanker who would be monumentally shit as a leader of a Political party, let alone a country, she may have a point. As difficult as it is to stomach, there are women out there that have had several abortions, basically, another form of contraception. Yes, there may be a whole plethora of reasons why some women are having so many and, for sure, those reasons need to be examined but, ultimately, we cannot have a society that champions the right of women to have them but does not question those that do so because of 'lifestyle' choices let alone multiple terminations. That's my biggest problem with abortion . It being used as a form of contraception. Even though a Catholic myself I'm not 100% against abortion. Rape resulting in pregnancy (very rare) and cases were the mother could die I think abortion is fine. But yea RLB isn't even a trad Catholic she's very liberal and even that is extreme for some on the far left in the labour party. She'll be labours Tim farron if she wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 17, 2020 Just now, the_engineer said: That's my biggest problem with abortion . It being used as a form of contraception. Even though a Catholic myself I'm not 100% against abortion. Rape resulting in pregnancy (very rare) and cases were the mother could die I think abortion is fine. But yea RLB isn't even a trad Catholic she's very liberal and even that is extreme for some on the far left in the labour party. She'll be labours Tim farron if she wins. Fucking hell, THAT bad??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeathersPhoenix 9 Posted January 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, the_engineer said: That's my biggest problem with abortion . It being used as a form of contraception. Even though a Catholic myself I'm not 100% against abortion. Rape resulting in pregnancy (very rare) and cases were the mother could die I think abortion is fine. But yea RLB isn't even a trad Catholic she's very liberal and even that is extreme for some on the far left in the labour party. She'll be labours Tim farron if she wins. Oh yes I'm sure we could wrap up a rape court case between conception and the termination deadline? This argument always astounds me from anti-abortionists.... you're essentially asking woman to keep their kids just in case they can't prove rape... Given how high the burden of proof is for a rape conviction is - you'd be sanctioning tens of thousands of mothers to keeping babies that are the product of rape they couldn't prove in court. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 21, 2020 Phillips pulls out. Oh no. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,941 Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, The Quim Reaper said: Phillips pulls out. Oh no. Apparently it's because no CLPs are likely to nominate her? Would've thought. Thank you Corby for changing the rules.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,408 Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deathray said: Apparently it's because no CLPs are likely to nominate her? Would've thought. Thank you Corby for changing the rules.... Looks like it. GMB are revealing who they’re backing later, that’ll be interesting (though that was never gonna be JP) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted January 21, 2020 If anyone other than Keir and Wrong-Daily makes it on to the final ballot with the rule changes it'll be quite impressive. In the context, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
