The Next Leader of the Opposition

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32 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

Calling it now:

 

- Rayner wins Deputy

- Long-Bailey loses leadership to Starmer/Jarvis 

Could well happen. Wouldn’t necessarily be too bad either; as proven with Tom Watson, it’s easy to ignore the Deputy.

[YoungWillz 19,007]

I'd say your dream ticket is Liz Kendall with Rayner as Deputy. Benn as Shadow Chancellor or Foreign Secretary.

 

No longer fighting Remain/Leave, try looking fiscally responsible while also attempting to save UK plc.

 

I'll give you a wave from an independent Scotland, ha!

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1 hour ago, YoungWillz said:

I'd say your dream ticket is Liz Kendall with Rayner as Deputy. Benn as Shadow Chancellor or Foreign Secretary.

 

No longer fighting Remain/Leave, try looking fiscally responsible while also attempting to save UK plc.

 

I'll give you a wave from an independent Scotland, ha!

 

Only issue is you aren't getting indie until we get in which if you lot keep voting for the SNP will be never....

[YoungWillz 19,007]

6 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

Only issue is you aren't getting indie until we get in which if you lot keep voting for the SNP will be never....

You presuppose that the SNP will play by Westminster's rules. Act of Union, etc etc. Freedom!!!

[Spade_Cooley 9,019]

Keir Starmer with a wimmin as chancellor and John McDonnell still in cabinet as a BIG BEAST also serving as a sop to the momentum lot would work. So obviously we'll end up with RLB as leader, someone from the right of the party as deputy and Richard Burgon as the Labour party's media spokesman. 

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18 minutes ago, Spade_Cooley said:

Keir Starmer with a wimmin as chancellor and John McDonnell still in cabinet as a BIG BEAST also serving as a sop to the momentum lot would work. So obviously we'll end up with RLB as leader, someone from the right of the party as deputy and Richard Burgon as the Labour party's media spokesman. 

 

Nailed it.

 

McDonell won't be in next shadow cabinet anyway. He's heading off to backbenches.

 

To be honest I'm convinced even momentum wouldn't be stupid enough to vote RLB in over starmer. 

[YoungWillz 19,007]

Thornberry declares for leader.

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On 18/12/2019 at 12:17, YoungWillz said:

Thornberry declares for leader.

 

Hope she comes last, god awful woman.

 

Anyway will keep this updated through campaign.....

 

With Support Confirmed (10% of MPs and MEPs, 5% of CLPs and 5% of affiliate members)

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Seeking Support

Emily Thornberry Guardian

Clive Lewis BBC

 

Interest Expressed

Kier Starmer Guardian

Lisa Nandy

Clive Lewis

Rebecca Long-Bailey

Yvette Cooper

 

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25 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Thornberry declares for leader.

I'm sure the Northern heartlands will flock back to Labour under her.

[Sean 5,997]

13 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

Hope she comes last, god awful woman.

 

Anyway will keep this updated through campaign.....

 

With Support Confirmed (10% of MPs and MEPs, 5% of CLPs and 5% of affiliate members)

1 of 9

2 of 9

3 of 9

4 of 9

5 of 9

6 of 9

7 of 9

8 of 9

9 of 9

 

Seeking Support

Emily Thornberry Guardian

 

Interest Expressed

Kier Starmer Guardian

Lisa Nandy

Clive Lewis

Rebecca Long-Bailey

Yvette Cooper

 

 

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Starmer is increasingly the obvious choice.

[Bibliogryphon 8,644]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Starmer is increasingly the obvious choice.

In as much both sides of the party could tolerate him 

 

(In the short term)

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1 hour ago, Bibliogryphon said:

In as much both sides of the party could tolerate him 

 

(In the short term)

 

Yup, but that's what great Labour leaders need - an ability for everybody to coalesce around him. 

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On 15/12/2019 at 21:06, msc said:

If thats the options available, it's got to be Sir Keir.

 

On 15/12/2019 at 21:15, Kinnock said:

 

An Oxford educated London based remainer?

 

Sounds like exactly the kind of person who'll win back Leave voting northern Blyth Valley.  

 

Dan Jarvis -  ex-military so no national security concerns, more centrist so not as much financial distrust to overcome.

 

4 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Starmer is increasingly the obvious choice.

 

For the record, I think that's the fastest I've ever changed someone's political opinion...

 

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5 hours ago, msc said:

 

 

 

For the record, I think that's the fastest I've ever changed someone's political opinion...

 

 

Obvious choice for successor.

 

Not obvious choice for who I'll vote for or that I think he'll be all that successful, although he does beat a lot of the other numpties. 

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Clive Lewis joins. 

 

Whoooo?

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On 16/12/2019 at 13:34, Kinnock said:

So there's a max of 9 candidates.

 

Will be interesting to see if factions united or we get 9 candidates.

 

If factions united we'll get 5 candidates

 

Blue Labour

Blairite

Soft Left

Momentum

Commies (won't make it onto Ballot Paper)

 

1 hour ago, The Quim Reaper said:

Clive Lewis joins. 

 

Whoooo?

 

See above, more Corbyny than Thornberry, less Corbyny than RLB.....

 

hope that clears things up.

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10 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

 

See above, more Corbyny than Thornberry, less Corbyny than RLB.....

 

hope that clears things up.

I know who he is, but it does remind me of when Kit Malthouse stood for Tory leadership. He’s a filler on the ballot paper. Meat in the room. He’s about as much chance at the leadership as I have

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2 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said:

I know who he is, but it does remind me of when Kit Malthouse stood for Tory leadership. He’s a filler on the ballot paper. Meat in the room. He’s about as much chance at the leadership as I have

 

To be honest I'm not sure he'll even make it on the paper. There's better candidates for that part of the party to coalesce around.

 

Although given the rank nature he could win by being everybodies inoffensive 4th choice.

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Jess Phillips is in. A candidate that manages to be both very popular and desperately unpopular. 
 

She’ll get enough endorsements, but shouldn’t worry Starmer.

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Becky Long Bailey

No surrender

A four day week

And a three day bender

[Windsor 2,142]

53 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

Jess Phillips is in. A candidate that manages to be both very popular and desperately unpopular. 
 

She’ll get enough endorsements, but shouldn’t worry Starmer.

She’s too emotional. We’d all be suicidal by the time she concluded her acceptance speech if she won. 

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5 minutes ago, Windsor said:

She’s too emotional. We’d all be suicidal by the time she concluded her acceptance speech if she won. 

 

Thankfully Starmer's marginay of victory in this will make Russian elections look close.

[Windsor 2,142]

3 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

Thankfully Starmer's marginay of victory in this will make Russian elections look close.

You forget we live in the age of the nutters.

 

It will transpire that when he was at university he dressed up as Hitler in blackface. Don’t forget he’s also a knight of the realm which probably means he’s too much of an establishment figure.