RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 3, 2020 So go on, own up - which of the 5 of you (or more since) have to re-jig your Nobel Prize Winners now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,071 Posted August 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said: So go on, own up - which of the 5 of you (or more since) have to re-jig your Nobel Prize Winners now? Not me. Mine are somewhere between popular and esoteric..... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted August 5, 2020 From... 4. Any human deemed to have achieved spaceflight (according to this wiki list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_astronauts_by_first_flight ) From my understanding the link provided doesn't necessarily constitute those who have achieved spaceflight, rather those who meet the FAI's guidelines for what defines an 'astronaut'. If the intended list of people was for any person who achieved spaceflight I believe this would be a better link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_name Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted August 5, 2020 Also as a non-Euro/Brit, does 2. Any player who was part of a FIFA Men's World Cup Finals squad (don't have to have played in the tournament) entail having participated in the tournament or only the final? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Banana said: From... 4. Any human deemed to have achieved spaceflight (according to this wiki list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_astronauts_by_first_flight ) From my understanding the link provided doesn't necessarily constitute those who have achieved spaceflight, rather those who meet the FAI's guidelines for what defines an 'astronaut'. If the intended list of people was for any person who achieved spaceflight I believe this would be a better link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_travelers_by_name The quoted list is the one we are using. To avoid not picking. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Banana said: Also as a non-Euro/Brit, does 2. Any player who was part of a FIFA Men's World Cup Finals squad (don't have to have played in the tournament) entail having participated in the tournament or only the final? It means any member of a national squad who travelled to the tournament. They do not have to have played in a match. It is the WORLD Cup 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted August 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Banana said: Also as a non-Euro/Brit, does 2. Any player who was part of a FIFA Men's World Cup Finals squad (don't have to have played in the tournament) entail having participated in the tournament or only the final? Don't you know what "squad" means? It works like this. The team manager selects a number of players (in recent years this has been 23 players). This is the squad. For each match, a team is chosen by selecting players from the squad. Players may be substituted by others from the squad. This system allows players to be rested or to recover from injury, and tactics to be varied. Players in the squad may not necessarily be selected to play in a match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
time 8,626 Posted August 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Banana said: Also as a non-Euro/Brit, does 2. Any player who was part of a FIFA Men's World Cup Finals squad (don't have to have played in the tournament) entail having participated in the tournament or only the final? World Cup Finals is the general term for the final stage of the tournament played between the qualifiers (i.e. the who have won through the qualifying tournamant). In recent years this has been 32 teams; any of the players from the squad (see Toast's post, above) of those 32 teams can be said to have been "a part of a FIFA Men's World Cup Finals Squad". The 'final' is, as the name suggests just one match, played between the last two teams from all those who qualified for ' the finals'. Honestly, its not at all confusing (for confusing we need to talk about cricket). 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,070 Posted August 5, 2020 ADMINS: Can we please add ‘III’ or 3 or 2020 whatever. I thought this was the thread for the first Scavenger DP and didn’t open it until today, twa weeks later. SC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted August 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Toast said: Don't you know what "squad" means? It works like this. The team manager selects a number of players (in recent years this has been 23 players). This is the squad. For each match, a team is chosen by selecting players from the squad. Players may be substituted by others from the squad. This system allows players to be rested or to recover from injury, and tactics to be varied. Players in the squad may not necessarily be selected to play in a match. The term squad wasn’t the issue, but I appreciate your condescension. 3 hours ago, time said: The 'final' is, as the name suggests just one match, played between the last two teams from all those who qualified for ' the finals'. Honestly, its not at all confusing (for confusing we need to talk about cricket). it’s confusing for a North American where our sports leagues consider the final match up the final and the preceding tournament the playoffs. All I asked for was clarification, not a history lesson, but thanks again guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted August 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Banana said: The term squad wasn’t the issue, but I appreciate your condescension. it’s confusing for a North American where our sports leagues consider the final match up the final and the preceding tournament the playoffs. All I asked for was clarification, not a history lesson, but thanks again guys. You're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Sir Creep said: ADMINS: Can we please add ‘III’ or 3 or 2020 whatever. I thought this was the thread for the first Scavenger DP and didn’t open it until today, twa weeks later. SC I did ask as it doesn't let me edit the title once I have made it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 5, 2020 9 hours ago, time said: Honestly, its not at all confusing (for confusing we need to talk about cricket). You're in the clear there, time, @Bibliogryphon picked cricket in the first round! And to keep it in the collective consciousness: can an admin change the title to include 'III'. Thank you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 6, 2020 Although I picked the categories, Biblio is very much in charge of this, so I have a rules-based question following more Eurovision research than I care to admit to. You say obits are quite loose, akin to Deathrace but Deathrace requires English language so is that the criteria here? If so, I assume this posted recently by Spade in the Curse of Eurovision thread would count but this posted by Whitehouse in the same thread would not (as it's in Dutch)? Just so I know... (Without looking, thinking about it, would most not at least get an English mention on one of the Eurovision sites which would count? Just thinking out loud...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 7, 2020 22 hours ago, RoverAndOut said: Although I picked the categories, Biblio is very much in charge of this, so I have a rules-based question following more Eurovision research than I care to admit to. You say obits are quite loose, akin to Deathrace but Deathrace requires English language so is that the criteria here? If so, I assume this posted recently by Spade in the Curse of Eurovision thread would count but this posted by Whitehouse in the same thread would not (as it's in Dutch)? Just so I know... (Without looking, thinking about it, would most not at least get an English mention on one of the Eurovision sites which would count? Just thinking out loud...) As a lot of these are marginal in the fame arena I will accept a national newspaper obit from their home country or a proclamation from the official website Nobel, FIFA or Eurovision 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banana 859 Posted August 11, 2020 5. Any on-stage performer for a country in a Eurovision Grand Final. The Eurovision Grand Final was introduced in 2004. I'm confused as to what this rule is supposed to mean and am looking for clarification... Only on-stage performers of the Grand Final post-2004 Only on-stage performers of the Grand Final post-2004 and all on-stage performers before pre-2004 All on-stage performers at the Eurovision Song Contest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Banana said: 5. Any on-stage performer for a country in a Eurovision Grand Final. The Eurovision Grand Final was introduced in 2004. I'm confused as to what this rule is supposed to mean and am looking for clarification... Only on-stage performers of the Grand Final post-2004 Only on-stage performers of the Grand Final post-2004 and all on-stage performers before pre-2004 All on-stage performers at the Eurovision Song Contest Pre 2004 the Contest was just a one off event so the contest was the equivalent of the Grand Final. What this does is eliminate those entries post 2004 who did not qualify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,542 Posted August 12, 2020 Which, for those planning on gaming the system, disqualifies the 102-year-old Emil Ramsauer as Switzerland didn't make it to the grand final in 2013. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 13, 2020 Thank you to the Moderator that changed the title. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 17, 2020 I come to whet your somewhat blunted purpose Two week Klaxon How is the research going? Only five entries in so far 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,155 Posted August 17, 2020 I'm still working sporadically on my teams. A little late night research a few hours ago, in fact. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,483 Posted August 17, 2020 Oh yeah I should probably look up the teams soon... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,313 Posted August 17, 2020 I have now sent in my list. Thanks for doing this! @Bibliogryphon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoverAndOut 4,746 Posted August 20, 2020 I'm obviously taking on my own challenge. Teams are coming together, research mostly done, but it'll be the usual case of throwing it all up in the air and seeing how it lands. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,592 Posted August 23, 2020 As BHM is my birthday I will still be accepting entries but I won't be pouring over verification detail so effectively this is a one week Klaxon to all those players engrossed in their research hoping to lift the trophy sometime in 2022. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites