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  1. 15 hours ago, En Passant said:

    I speculate that gross over-generalizations often come from the same folk that read tabloids. Go figure.

     

    OK, who is the American equivalent of The Nolans?  The Australian equivalent?  Sorry, only the UK cares about people like them who had 2.5 hits 40 years ago and who were 'big in Japan'.

     

    Sure, one hit wonders (and I know The Nolans weren't, in the UK) can be fun and fondly-remembered, but nowhere else on earth do they make front page news with their ongoing cancer battles and love lives 40 years after the fact and get stints on daytime talk shows.  That is a uniquely British phenomenon.

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  2. 1 minute ago, Toast said:

     

    The tabloid media thinks we do.

     

    Obviously not all UK-ers, but a sizable chunk...  relative to other, otherwise-similar nations.  I speculate it stems from being keenly interested in the lives of the Royal Family.

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  3. 18 hours ago, NotTheNagsHeadReading said:

     

    Harsh but fair, for a bunch of sqauwkers who had a brief burst of fame in the early 80's and then a bit of a run off a tragic TV show in the 00's they have outsized media coverage. Their agent is a genius.

     

    I think I've posted this here before, but I'm a big music fan, born in the late 70s, from Australia... and even I had never heard of The Nolans until the mid-late 2000s, after encountering some weirdo (and not in a good way) from the UK on a music forum who is a big fan.  Granted, they (I later discovered) only had one real hit here, when I was 2.

     

    The UK seems to love tabloid gutter trashy acts/nobodies, so I'm not that surprised they still have a profile there.


  4. On 06/11/2020 at 03:21, Toast said:

     

    That had me :scratchhead:

    The article actually says "non-cancerous tumour".

     

    It's probably not what they meant, but perhaps it was carcinoma in situ (cells that are sufficiently abnormal to be deemed cancer are there, but they haven't yet invaded through the basement membrane, and may never do so... so it's kind of a non-invasive cancer or 'stage 0').

     

    Related to this, I read ages ago that there have been some cases of 'benign' tumours that have metastasised (without first transforming into cancer, that is).  I would have thought that metastasis was the hallmark of cancer, but e.g. there's this report of a fatal, benign metastatic tumour from 1906 - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/455589


  5. On 17/08/2020 at 01:52, CoffinLodger said:

    I am annoyingly healthy.I have never been to hospital for any reason, never even get the flu or a cold normally, but I drink like a fish and eat junk food like a human dustbin !Never exercise or anything.  I could live to 110 

     

    The stroke was my first stint in hospital - what a way to start!  Well, other than a half-day stay I had a week prior for a diagnostic test.


  6. I'm not prolific enough a poster to be noticed if something did happen to me (I mostly lurk), but I had a stroke 14 years ago this coming week, at the ripe old age of... 27.  Yes, I nearly joined the 27 Club!  Luckily, I made a quick and virtually full recovery - I have some slight (barely noticeable) reduction in sensation in my left arm as the only residual deficit.

     

    Are there any other deathlisters who've had their own brush with 'death', particularly at a relatively young age?

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  7. I only know 'I'm In the Mood For Dancing' and 'Gotta Pull Myself Together', as the latter was their only real hit in Australia, and I don't particularly care for either.  But wow, they've had a hard run with breast cancer.  I read in that Sun article that Linda hopes she might be lucky and last another 15 years or so.... riiiight.  While there's an extremely slim chance of that happening, it is not looking good for her.

     

    I assume that stage 3 means it has 'only' spread to lymph nodes, so Anne has a much better chance of surviving this - although with COVID-19 lurking around, combined with a compromised immune system due to chemo, anything is possible.

     

    Didn't know about Coleen's comments.  I assume a large proportion of the few people who still care about The Nolans' music are gay men, so how stupid can you be to draw the comparison to ISIS?


  8. On 24/01/2020 at 04:04, paddyfool said:

     

    Who says that all of that 80% are dying of pancreatic cancer? Those who had operable tumours etc might very well die of something else in the space of 15 years. For instance, age alone makes RBG unlikely to live that long, regardless of cancer status.

     

    I'm pretty sure this study reported disease-specific survival.

     

    Having 'operable' pancreatic cancer does not, in itself, make it a curable disease for patients with operable disease.  Most of them will still die from it, eventually; just, they'll be likely to stay alive with it for longer than those with inoperable disease.


  9. On 09/01/2020 at 12:28, Nurse Rached said:

     Pancreatic cancer has a 5% success rate.

     

    It depends what you define as 'success'.  Merely being alive, even if your body is still riddled with cancer, at 5 years is deemed 'surviving' it.

     

    I found a study a while back, which looked at the 20 year survival rate for various cancers, and pancreatic cancer only had a 0.8% 20 year-survival (the lowest of any site).  So of that 5% who 'survive' 5-years, about 80% of them will still die from it within the next 15 years anyway.  It's a killer.

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  10. On 11/01/2020 at 09:13, Deathtreat23 said:

     

    Yep-I've seen this with a few people on the list on previous years where the celebrity says they are "cancer free" and then end up becoming a hit before the year has ended.

     

    You can have a recurrence of your cancer as late as 45 years after it was first diagnosed - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30730329 , and probably even later.

     

    The only way you can really be declared 'cancer free' is if they were able to look at every cell within your body under a microscope... probably at autopsy.  And even then, a significant proportion of (otherwise 'healthy') people have microscopic occult cancer that was never diagnosed during their lifetime at autopsy.  No evidence of disease is not the same as having no disease.

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  11. On 14/08/2019 at 21:50, MrWonderful said:

    I don't think it became Stage 4 cancer until 2017.  I believe she revealed she's been battling cancer (again) since 2013, but that it metastasized in 2017 and spread to her bones at that time.

     

    The cancer was in her shoulder in 2013 - that would be classified as a metastasis (stage 4).  Granted, the shoulder bones are not, in themselves, a vital organ.


  12. On 08/08/2019 at 21:28, MrWonderful said:

    Thanks for posting; that was a good watch.  She's a wonderful lady, and it's going to suck big-time when she goes.  Maybe she can pull a Valerie Harper and live for much longer than people expect.  

     

    Yes, she does seem like a nice person.

     

    She already has done fairly well, lasting 6 years with stage 4 breast cancer.  It probably won't become immediately life-threatening until it's in a vital organ (assuming it isn't, already), though she is looking skinny.


  13. On 18/07/2019 at 12:03, Sir Creep said:

    Gonna grab TWO names for the price of one.

    A Labor MP sworn into federal parliament just two weeks ago has vowed to fight on after discovering her cancer had returned.  Peta Murphy, who won the Melbourne seat of Dunkley at the May 18 election, received the unexpected news last week that the cancer was back after five years in the clear.

    "While this has come as a shock, my doctor advises me that my condition is treatable and that he expects me to do well with treatment, which I will start in the coming weeks," Ms Murphy said on Thursday.

    Liberal senator Arthur Sinodinos, who survived a battle with cancer, was among the first to wish her well.
    SC

     

    It always seems so prematurely optimistic when statements such as "X survived a battle with cancer"/"X has been declared cancer-free" are made - especially when it hasn't even been 5 years since their diagnosis.  Even if you survive that long, it hasn't necessarily been cured.  I've known two people in real life who died of their cancer 15+ years after it was first diagnosed (the same type of cancer), despite long periods of remission and apparently 'successful' treatment in between (one died 18 years later; the other, 21 years later).


  14. Poor Val.

     

    I'm a speech pathologist - but not a specialist in voice/laryngectomy.  It seems apparent that Val has had a neck dissection (where the lymph nodes in the neck are removed) - hence why his neck looks very 'thin'.  It seems the tumour/s and/or the treatment (surgery, radiotherapy) has/have affected the function of his soft palate - which elevates during speech and closes off the nasal cavity (except for the nasal sounds, which are m, n, and ng in English); hence why he sounds so 'nasal'.

     

    It also seems he has some issue with managing his oral secretions (hence the sleeve wipe), and has a reduced range of moment on the right* side of his face and with opening his jaw.

     

    (*this video is shot in mirror image)

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  15. On 03/01/2019 at 23:32, Vinegar Tits said:

     

    I've just about stopped myself punning on The Rumour so amused to see someone finally went there. Great Elton John/Bernie Taupin song!

     

    calrec.gif.83017ebe0a25829a24fc2afc42292ec7.gifOnce the tumour spreads

    Your life is just a thing of the past

     

     

    It was my first thought when I read the news of her cancer "returning"* in 2017.

     

    (*of course, technically, it never went away; but was just not clinically apparent for about 20 years).

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  16. Just now, maryportfuncity said:

     

    Yeah, well...don't quit. We've got form studying to do as the days wind down to the start of main season for the big pools.

     

    Whaddya reckon on Gazza?

     

    I'm from Australia, so I only know of him really through his appearance in New Order's 'World In Motion' music video from 1990. Coincidentally, on another forum, a while back I started a thread titled 'The ravages of time',  for comparing then and now pictures for 'celebrities' you haven't seen in decades.  i.e. to compare how shockingly old they look now to when you last saw them.  He was one I added to the thread.  I don't know anything about him other than what I've skimmed here on a few pages of that thread (which may have given me the idea for the thread on the other forum).


  17. 1 minute ago, maryportfuncity said:

     

     

    Stick around newbie - a sensible medical analysis on a prime pick.

     

    I signed up just to get that off my chest, ha ha.  Though I've been lurking here on and off for a little while.

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  18. One thing that irks me about the reporting of this and similar stories is that this technically isn't Livvi's third 'battle' with cancer - it's the same cancer she originally had.  It didn't 'return' - it never went away (assuming these tumours are descendent from the cancer she was diagnosed with in 1992, and not from a second, separate breast cancer).  Granted, the disease was not detected or clinically apparent for 20 years following conclusion of her chemotherapy regimen.  But that doesn't mean the cancer wasn't there on a microscopic level, lying dormant and/or growing slowly.  Odds are that some rogue cells broke off from her original tumour and set up shop in her shoulder/elsewhere before she was treated in 1992, survived the chemotherapy, and just took a long time to form a clinically apparent tumour.

     

    Although the cancer might not be apparent in any vital organ currently, I'm sure she would be categorised as stage 4.  The sacrum is distant from the site of her original cancer, and on the other side of the diaphragm.  This is not a regional occurrence.  While she may not be on death's doorstep yet, the eventual prognosis is surely not good.

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