Holy Diver
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No I don't know the story. Most of their studio recording is good quality, The thing about them is they have more live albums than studio albums.
If all goes well, I might get to see Saxon THREE times next year.
They are playing in may nearby, they have been rumoured for Bloodstock Open Air 07 in july, and they have been confirmed for Wacken Open Air 07 in germany sometime around august.
I'd better 'ride like the wind' if I wanna make it to all the dates....
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Indeed HD, very good summary. might I surmise you're still fairly close to the material having recently studied it? Re this thread; Salinger's life shows a struggle with maturity/innocence. In the nineties his neighbours only realised his much younger female companion was his wife when the Salinger home caught fire and 'Mrs' Salinger rang the fire station to report it. It's debatable whether Salinger's fixation with youthful women and his refusal to publish anything for four decades say more about his big themes than his published works.Incidentally; I'm somewhat surprised a teenager seems to revel in old school early eighties metal sounds. Or is the Dio fixatation intended as ironic?
Oh no, the Dio fixation is quite sincere!
I was kind of ostracised from the 'popular' crowd in secondary school because of my musical taste. I have a quite wide taste really, but I'm really keen on New Wave British Heavy Metal, and quite a lot of late 70s right through to early 90s music. Among others bands I like that few people my age have heard of are Saxon, Poison, Helloween and Diamond Head (to name a few). The metal-head is not dead yet. There is a small contigent of people round my area that are into heavy metal, including one of my friends who introduced me to Manowar (now one of my favourite bands).
Back on topic: Yes, it is obvious that Holden is to JD Salinger what Simon was to William Golding, albeit used in a diferent way. Simon is used in Lord of the Flies to act as the voice of humanity, and sensibility, whereas, Holden is used to voice Salingers concerns about the world, (which he perecives to be sensibility and in some way reasonable)
I think the (much used) quote: "I thought what I'd do was, I'd become one of those deaf-mutes"
Is very telling. In the same way as Holden contemplates, Salinger seems to have turned his back on reality, and in a way is shut off from proper communication, just like a 'deaf-mute'.
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I agree with MPFC in as much as Salinger was obviously projecting quite heavily, and expressing some of his emotions and worries through Holden.
Much of what troubles Holden though is more to do with the theme of the death of innocence. Phoebe, his sister is growing up, and he sees that soon she will lose that childish innocence, as he obsevres when he sees someone has written 'F**k' on the side of her school wall. DB his older brother has grown up and moved away, but Holden sees him as a phony because he is doing a job he doesn't like. The only character he never talks about negatively is Allie, his younger borther who died. He never talks about him negatively, because Allie never grew up and lost his innocence. Holden sees that he himself has lost his innocence, but desperately wants to pretend he can take it back and hold on to it (expressed as his not wanting to grow up, and running away from reality) seeing innocence as the only positive quality in the world, but even then, a negative thing, as it is inevitably lost.
Holden acts as a personification of discontent with the world, and how things are, which is why people relate to him, and why people who are mentally unstable see him as a role model.
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I agree that he is mentally disturbed. The book 'Catcher In The Rye' just might explain his feelings to a reasonable extent. I don't believe the goverment had any involvement in Lennon's death, why Chapman did this I don't know. I think at one point he may have thought he was actually John Lennon. It is a mystery that remains unsolved, as this book seems to reach out to those who are disturbed. I believe that if Lennon would have survived in time he would have forgivin him. For all we know the next day Chapman could have regretted his actions. I wasn't serious Holy Diver, your not an idiot. Just a person who wants to see success more then everybody else. In all fairness, around the Deathlist forums that isn't a crime.
It isn't an unresolved mystery. Chapman said himself, the reason he shot John Lennon is because he wanted to be famous, and was angry with John for becoming a 'phony'.
Lot's of people who claim to be able to relate strongly with Holden Caulfield have problems with depression. I relate to Holden, but that's because I'm still a teenager, and am still looking for things in the adult world, that I perceive should be there, but aren't. Catcher in the Rye is my all time favourite book right now, because I can relate to so many of the themes in it, the death of innocence, being untrusting of adults, the desire to run away from the world, are all things that most teenagers experience, so it's no real wonder so many people love the book. It's letting go of that teenage phase that some people find difficult, and often ends up causing severe social problems (eg Mark Chapman, and John Hinckley Jr) they see the book as a justification for holding on to that perception of the world, which is inappropriate as they become adults, because they are in effect have to become what they mistrust; adults.
Anyways, back to JD, not many people know about his health, due to his reclusiveness, so I dunno how well educated a DL entry this will turn out to be.
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They'll never let Chapman out, mainly for his own safety. As soon as they did, some extreme Lennon fan would murder him, ironically, in the name of 'peace'.I say let him finish the job. Only two more to go and we'll have a beatles reunion.
Chapman will die in prison. I don't care how many times he has to read Catcher In The Rye. I disagree with your 'Let him finish the job' I mean Paul could use a beating but not death yet. And I can't see Ringo going anywhere. Your an idiot Holy Diver.
Not familiar with jokes round your neck of the woods then?
I don't think Chapman is a bad person, he's just severely disturbed. In all seriousness, I don't think they should allow him back into society, that would be dangerous for both parties, but I think he needs treatment. He is obviously mentally disturbed.
The fact that people want to see him rot, and harbour this much resentment to towards the man is a shame. I am sure Lennon himself would have forgiven him, because he was very mixed up.
Production of a film titled 'Chapter 27' (an allusion to the fact Catcher in the Rye only has 26 chapters) is being made about Chapman, and the days leading up to the shooting. Some parties are against this, as it would give Chapman the fame he cited as one of his motivations for shooting Lennon. Whether people like it or not, Chapman already has that. He's infamous as the man who ended John Lennon's life. I very much want to see this film, because I want to learn more about what drove this man to kill his favourite beatle. (as far as I know, he saw Lennon as a 'phoney' which angered him, especially seeings as Chapman was a nobody, whilst phoney Lennon was a big somebody.)
Anyways, like I said. Two more to go until a Beatles reunion.
(I put the smiley in so you can tell I'm joking. Because some people might not get it.)
(P.S. in case people start flaiming me, at NO POINT, have I said I support or even admire Chapman, He is a looney. I am just very interested in the situation, and the effect The Catcher in the Rye has on people:- The Author is now a recluse, Chapman killed Lennon, and John Hinckley Jr (also obsessed with the book) tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. So don't anybody start flaming me. I think Chapman is a man to be pitied, not hated. He's batshit insane, and his life must be very hard for him. Being angsty and waspish won't change the fact he's already killed Lennon. So can I also ask for a cessation of the "I hate Chapman and he should be executed" posts. Murder is never justified, especially not in the pursuit of justice.)
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Depends, do crazy people experience boredom?
Chapman claims he is now an evangelical christian, and also claims to have vomited up to six demons during his time at Attica prison.
If that isn't crazy then I don't know what is.
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Mark David Chapman, the man who shot John Lennon in 1980 is due for a parole hearing this month. He has been denied parole 4 times prior, and is not expecting to be let out this time. Chapman is obsessed with the book, The Catcher in the Rye, and says he modelled his life around Holden Caulfield, and even re-enacted scenes from the book prior to shooting John Lennon. After killing John, the gun was knocked out of his hand by a security guard. Chapman then sat on the kerb and began reading a portion of 'The Catcher in the Rye' until police arrived and arrested him without incident.
He says the reasons for his acts were that he admired Lennon, until he started to become a 'phony' which angered Chapman. He saw himself as a total nobody, and so decided to steal Lennon's fame by killing him. He fired 5 hollow point rounds, delivering 4 wounds to Lennon. Lennon was pronounced dead roughly 20 minutes after the shooting, and was reported to have lost 80% of his blood.
They'll never let Chapman out, mainly for his own safety. As soon as they did, some extreme Lennon fan would murder him, ironically, in the name of 'peace'.
I say let him finish the job. Only two more to go and we'll have a beatles reunion.
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This is footage of my friend at Wacken Open air Metalfest 06.
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Find a news article about some teenager who went nuts and fatally bludgeoned his biology teacher with the jawbone of an ass. Ram the kid’s name into myspace search. Nine times out of ten, he’ll be on there, and his friends will have left a million comments like “Jerry, what the F**k, you used to be cool, I can’t believe you flipped out like that,” and “i luv u jerry and I hope u find piece, i cant understand y u did it.”
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I just finished reading 'Barefoot Gen' by Keiji Nakazawa for the fourth time. It's a manga book about the weeks leading up to the atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima. The first time I read it, I cried at the end, but then again, I was only 12.
I am currently split between reading 'Samurai William' by Giles Wilson, less of a book, and more of a well written history of the first adventurers who discovered Japan, and the first (and really the only) Gaijin Samurai. A british explorer who was stranded in Japan, and when people came to rescue him, found he'd gone native. Wilson really makes it come alive, I'd recommend it, full of interesting facts, and very well written.
The other book I am reading is 'Call of the Cthulhu' by one of my favourite authors, H.P. Lovecraft. A collection of weird fiction stories, written well before their time, by Lovecraft back in the 1920's I believe.
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YOU MEAN MUTILATED ENGLISH!!!!YES , IN ITALIAN WE HAVE CAPITAL LETTERS like in any other language but you know sometimes i don't feel like using them!!!!OH i got it!!!maybe you prefere me to tape in italian mm let's see:
o forse preferite ke vi facciamo 1 bella zagagliata in italiano cosi' vediamo cosa c capite: alllora julie e' una splendida attrice e non merita d essere presa in giro cosi' pero' gia' il fatto ke stiamo parlando d lei e' 1 bene
visto ke ultimamente sta' solamente doppiando shrek 3 e nn si parla piu molto d lei!!!|
so...do like it or you prefere the mutilated english????
No, mutilated Italian is fine.
Don't they have capital letters in Italy then?
however i have a splendid idea!!!!Let's change the subject!!!!
Who is your favourite actor??????????
Do you have brains yet in Italy? Such a backwards nation...
And we aren;t going to change subject. This is the thread on Julie Andrews.
And FYI, cocking up your english doesn;t bother me personally, it just makes you look like a retard, so it's hard to take anything you say seriously. Just a friendly bit of advice: People will listen to you better, if you talk properly.
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We would take you seriously, and maybe consider showing a little respect, but because you're making a pest of yourself...
MORE TITTIES!!
Respect? Never heard of it. And stop referring to yourself as 'we' it's annoying.
Oh, and the reason we aren't listening to you is because you type in some strange language that I believe to be some mutilation of my beloved english.
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Janette Tough (AKA Janette Krankie) hasn't worked since she fell 20ft onto a stage...
Let's be grateful for small mercies.
Hahaha, small mercies...
I GET IT!
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[snipped for brevity -- MH]yeah yeah whatever!
That's quite a comeback! I'm reeling in agony over here, I wasn't expecting such an intellectual rebuttal!
WOE IS ME.
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My favourite was their idea of filling the albert hall with Blancmange.
I was going to mention that 24 hour pub open times was one of their ideas, but you already went ahead and quoted it.
Blair has said he'll probably be out within the next 12 months, but I wouldn't be suprised if they oust him before that.
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You have much to learn, Grasshopper.We know that Dunn is immortal, yet he has to be on the list. He is our Grail, our Old Man of the Mountain, our Nirvana. To acheive the state of Dunn-ness is the ultimate aim of us all. Hope this clears things up a little, and a warm welcome to you.
So by being immortal, he proves the statement "Nothing is perfect" by automatically denying you a perfect 50/50 score. Ah, I see his importance.
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This is a fools errand. Last time I checked Dunn was in good health, only suffering minor sight problems, retired in Portugal.
(Having said that he'll probably go and prove me wrong...)
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I see...so it's a whoa you be a-wantin' eh?you s.o.b. if u know what we mean...the 'old' j.a. is doing pretty well!In fact she's giving her wonderfull voice to queen lilian from shrek3!!!
So next time that u want to insult a magnificent person like our beloved julie think twice go away , shut your stupid mouth and commit suicide!!!!
Now about this suicide thing-a-ma-jig...would y'all be so kind as to demonstrate it on yo' lil ole self first?
Ahd be ever so grateful... after all ah wou'nt be a-wantin' ta git it all wro-ong.
dear mr?????
forgive us because we're italian and maybe our english is not quite clear...u don't need a demonstration to commit suicide!! It will be enough to write this sh*t directliy on a julie andrews fan site!!!(there are thousands just pick one)Then you're goin to have to deal with more than 2 disappointed fans(that's us, just to make sure you understand!)!!!!!
All right then we'll insert a smily that shoud give you the demonstration youre looking for!!!
BYe BYe
Oh holy crap! Numbers in excess of 2 fans!? You're messin' with the bull, prepare to get the horns Bruno!
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You are young HD, you have much to learn.Famous and terminal rocks round here, why else would Lou Rawles make his final chart topping appearance on the DL 2006?
Famous just because they're terminal is a dodgy one, that Kirsty Howard, the young girl David and Victoria Beckham like to be photographed with is - generally speaking - considered off limits.
There is a grey area mind, Jane Tomlinson, for example, famous for being terminally ill for sure but she's so famous now you'll find a few, me included, reckoning she's legit.
Finally, shooting fish in a barrel is F*****g dangerous, bullets go through barrel sides and into your feet, the danger of richochet injury is very high and the spashes off the water throw your aim all to sh*t. Frankly, the safe thing to do is throw an electric lead into the barrel, flip the switch for a second and - having turned off the power - collect the fish.
Go well
Aha, yes, I see
*scrawls on notepad*
So, you wouldn't have picked Terri Schiavo for instance, because she was famous for being a gigantic vegetable. In fact, picking her would have been a gamble as to whether they removed the feeding tube.
Right okay. I think I'm on the same frequency now.
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Blair is rumoured to be pitched to leave around May time, but isn't the general election around then as well? How can labour expect to garner any votes when they don't even know who their party leader is.
No, I think the Labour party is finished with, New Labour barely represents the socialist ideals it once did as 'old' Labour. No, Socialism is fairly unrepresented in todays UK politics. The Tories don't seem trustworthy, Cameron is making loads of nice-guy promises that I don't know he would keep, (And my grandmother thinks he's gay, like it matters. Different generation...) and to be honest, of late, the Lib Dems have become a massive joke. The green party seems like the only decent party, or at least the party that best represents me, but even then, I wouldn't put them in control of the country. They are a one-policy party.
Maybe Screaming Lord Such wasn't so crazy after all....
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Quite a lot of the people who are chosen are wealthy, and so will be able to afford better healthcare. Is this factored into the selection process? The more important someone is, the greater lengths they will go to, to keep them alive.
Also, is it legal to chose famous people with terminal illnesses? Or is that considered shooting fish in a barrel?
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As we inevitably beat the crap out of this year, and start to think about moving on to the next one, is there much chance of even coming close to the 14/50 record set in 2003?
With a puny 7/50 this late on in the year, is it too late? Or will winter be particularly unkind to the celebrities this year?
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Hmmmm, maybe, as long as there's no accompanying video judging by their look.
A bit too much oil & steroids on show even for a self-respecting mid-80's metal group I'd say.Maybe you're right....
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Let's get this straight Holy DiverYou're obviously a devotee of the work of that diminutive genius Ronnie James Dio. Having survived the worst Satanic excesses he can throw at you, you then find notions of Mollie Sugden and Jimmy Clitheroe combining their talents frightening.
Hmmmm
Most strange.
It's totally different and you know it!
'Combining their talents'
Jimmy dressed as a schoolgirl playing with Mollie's pussy.I refer you to my previous statement...
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My grandfather is all in one piece. He's stood the test of time 30% better than other leading brands.