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    This is rapidly becoming one of those "Don't mention the war" skits. :lol:

    I don't see a problem with mentioning the war. As I see no problem with making jokes about it.

     

    Hein (who mentioned it once, but thinks he got away with it)

    I really like this episode :D

     

    It is really no problem when you are making jokes about it, AS LONG as you bare in mind the facts, and the crimes and misery during this period.

     

    I once talked to an American who was thinking, what he saw in Hogan's Heroes (it's a comedy about some prisoners of war in a German prison camp, who make themselves a good life because of the stupid camp commander) was the reality that so took place whilst WW II. He wasn't even aware of what happend, and how many people got murdered.

    And because of that, I have a problem with such statements put anywhere, without thinking about it.

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    I think you'll find that no real thought or bother was taken in the health of Max Schmeling by these "guests" while he was alive.

     

    Perhaps it's some sort of Germanic catharsis to defend the honour of a fallen comrade, despite not knowing all of the facts.

    Yes sure.... It's us who don't know the facts.

     

    If you'd like to enlighten me, what facts I'm not aware of, I would really welcome it.

     

     

    I - for my part - protested against the description as soon as I found this website.

    And believe me, I really have a problem with it. Because every time someone - who is not aware of all the facts - especially people who are not living in Germany, and especially Americans and British (I don't have anything against you guys, but you are not what I would call informed about history) feel strengthened in their opinion, that every German is a Nazi, and that everything in Germany is as it was 60 years ago.

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    Where's the point in discussing this.

    Let's keep to the historical facts: Max Schmeling was a boxer. He boxed before Hitler was in power and he boxed after it. Yes, the Nazis used Schmeling for propaganda, but they used everyone for it, not only Schmeling. They even stopped, to use him, after he lost against "the black man" Joe Louis.

    He was as much "Hitler's Boxer" as any butcher, who appeared in a propaganda movie was "Hitler's Butcher".

    Because he did embarass the government so much with losing, he was sent on suicidal Army missions.

     

     

    As long as you haven't been in Germany during that time, you (and I) will never comprehend what unimaginable happened there.

    So please remove this unfounded statement of him being "Hitler's Boxer" and just make him a "German Boxer".

     

     

    Oh and please, as long, as you have no clue about the 3rd Reich, Hitler, the Holocaust and everything that happend here in Germany in this period, don't make statements about it.

    For your information I really recommend reading what Wikipedia has to say about these topics.

     

     

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    Terminator, I'm not stating anything "uber-confidently". I'm just stating the historical facts. And they say, that Schmeling wasn't a Nazi, that he was in fact against the Nazis.

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    Hello again.

     

    To sum up, the newest information about Max Schmeling's death:

     

    Schmeling died on Wednesday, February 2 2005 at 15:55. He fell into a coma 3 days before and didn't awake again. He incured a bad cold around Christmas and didn't recover.

    He was buried today next to his wife.

    The memorial service will be held around February, 22 in Hamburg.

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