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  2. Posted

    My 2nd pick Koto Okubo has died, was sort of relying on Kimura dying first so that she'd become the oldest living person but since she's gone first the obituary is in doubt (hopefully she'll get one for being the oldest living woman).

  3. Posted

    I'm mates with the son of John Bishop...

     

    So I reckon I'm a shoo-in for the Mail.

     

    Where you from Bert?

     

    My missus' mates daughter goes to college/6th form with one of his sons.

     

    From Manchester, they've moved to a pastures new but used to live in Didsbury near to me...not really in contact with his eldest son that much anymore (said it for comic effect! har har...). Your mate's daughter will go to the same college as the middle son I think.

     

    Is that yon Scouse commedian?

     

    Aye

  4. Posted

    I'm mates with the son of John Bishop...

     

    So I reckon I'm a shoo-in for the Mail.

     

    Where you from Bert?

     

    My missus' mates daughter goes to college/6th form with one of his sons.

     

    From Manchester, they've moved to a pastures new but used to live in Didsbury near to me...not really in contact with his eldest son that much anymore (said it for comic effect! har har...). Your mate's daughter will go to the same college as the middle son I think.

  6. Posted

    Now getting back on track, it would be most unfortunate for me if the name Robert Smith starts getting bandied about as a fiddler, as this is also the name of my betrothed. Which is extremely amusing, as he hated goths when we were young. But I can't see it myself, not least for the fact that I'll bet he never worked with that twat Davidson.

     

    Of course there is another singer born in 1959, whose sexual proclivities have long been the source of speculation and has over the years displayed an unhealthy interest in Glam Rock, child murderers and the Royal family... :unsure:

     

    I was looking for a child, and then I found a child...and heaven knows I'm miserable now

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    I think it would be fair to allow points* for a late December death if the qualifying obit came on 1 January. This would not cause an undue delay to the final results.

     

    * just to clarify: points to count for the year ending, not the year just starting.

     

    I agree. If one of your current picks dies on New Years Eve it is unlikely any death announcement will be until the next year. I think the previous years final points count should not be officially announced until at least 3rd/4th Jan.

     

    But then who or what dictates whether it should be on the 3rd or the 4th or the 5th? Any cut-off point other than the turn of the year would be completely arbitrary...you'd just be moving the problem a few days forward if someone ended up getting the obituary on the 6th for example

     

    No, sorry, Bert - I don't agree. As things stand, there is virtually no chance of scoring points from a perfectly legitimate pick if said pick expires on 31 December. This surely is not fair. I think there's a case for giving a day's grace - possibly two, but I wouldn't extend it further than that as a line must be drawn, as you say.

     

    I suppose you're right, deaths are usually only reported the following day...I wouldn't have a problem with a day's grace but I do worry that people would then argue for the line to be pushed further and further out. The only reason I'd want the deadline to remain as it is would be to prevent arguments about the point at which a pick does or does not count. Failing to score points on a pick who died on the 31st may have to be an unlucky, unfair but necessary sacrifice in that scenario.

  9. Posted

    I think it would be fair to allow points* for a late December death if the qualifying obit came on 1 January. This would not cause an undue delay to the final results.

     

    * just to clarify: points to count for the year ending, not the year just starting.

     

    I agree. If one of your current picks dies on New Years Eve it is unlikely any death announcement will be until the next year. I think the previous years final points count should not be officially announced until at least 3rd/4th Jan.

     

    But then who or what dictates whether it should be on the 3rd or the 4th or the 5th? Any cut-off point other than the turn of the year would be completely arbitrary...you'd just be moving the problem a few days forward if someone ended up getting the obituary on the 6th for example

  10. Posted

    I am wondering, why teams don't get points if a person dies in 2012 and gets obit 2013. I understand that in some point you have to draw a line, because otherwise the results wouldn't be final. Neverthe less it is sad to see people lose points. Wouldn't it be better, if the person gets points if the obit comes within the first week of new year? It is obvious, that you don't get points in 2013 if a person dies in 2012, but still - the obit question.

     

    What do others think?

     

    I think if someone doesn't die in 2013, then they shouldn't count in 2013. It's unlucky in cases which happen on the 31st but any other cut-off point would be arbitrary.

  12. Posted

    I dropped Bernie Nolan, but she's my first alt so odds are she'll get back on after David James's death. Some others I considered but dropped were Gough Whitlam (too old), Ryan Buell (seemed well enough), Felix Dennis (not in best shape but is recovering from what I checked) and Anne Williams. (a cert to die, but there are enough ailing people I'm more comfortable with picking)

     

    Really unlucky but I don't think you will get an alternative for David James, the timing's done you I'm afraid.

  13. Posted

    As I started the email, pick 20 was Jalal Talabani. Then I had a last-second change of heart and put in Bill Pertwee instead.

     

    I've said elsewhere that points wise, the very ill 90 somethings aren't worth picking if I'm to do well, so Jaruzelski went out at the very last minute (albeit he's not 90 until later this year). Princess Lillian likewise went in the last rummage of names.

     

    Buell seems remarkably well, Nolan likewise, Bush I think will hang on.

     

    Others not mentioned already that came close to consideration were Clive Derby-Lewis, Derek Thompson, Salvatore DiMasi, Guy Innes-Kerr, Lord Michael Sandberg, Paul Cellucci and Tim Curley.

     

     

    As for Mesrob, I dropped him as I didn't think he'd get an obit after looking into his chances in more detail.

     

    Nearly put Derby-Lewis on the list but still can't be sure of how bad his health actually is...

     

    Beginning to regret Buell as joker, but still think there's a decent chance he'll go

  14. Posted

    Another one I thought might be a unique pick, Kate Granger, gone...clinging on to the others

     

    I cut Grainger in the final draft... she's still wandering around wards blithely helping others, plus she's not guaranteed an obit.

     

    The fact she was potentially unique and terminally ill was enough to sway me, but she's definitely not a banker...fairly confident on the obit-front because of her articles for the Guardian but could be proved wrong...

  17. Posted

    I dropped Sheree Murphy's mother who is suffering with a 'rare' type of cancer, but I couldn't find her name.

     

    Peter Harvey, Australian journalist, who had a stint at the Guardian in the 60's...he has pancreatic cancer but I bottled him at the last minute because I felt I had enough borderline obituary picks.

     

    Sandy Jardine..."ooh and that's a bad miss"

     

    Candye Kane - Treatment seems to be going alright and her obituary chances aren't certain

     

    Mesrob II - Nearly nicked him from OoO but decided dementia is too unreliable

  19. Posted

    Regretting not having Jardine now, looking at the amount of joker picks...anyway here's mine:

     

    Golden Slumbers

     

    Ryan Buell (J)

    Bonnie Franklin

    Anne Williams

    Dr. Kate Granger

    Lisa Lynch

    Rubin Carter

    Jack Pardee

    Henry Cecil

    Van Cliburn

    Damon Harris

    Katherine Crowe

    Hugo Chavez

    Jack Selebi

    Stefano Borgonovo

    Chick Willis

    Bashar al-Assad (got to chuck a wildcard in there!)

    Chen Xitong

    T-Model Ford

    Dennis James (Lord Mayor of Swansea)

    Margaret Mackintosh (ex-wife of Peter Tobin)

     

    ...and by the way, Clive James' cancer is in remission...pleased I caught that one with a day to spare!

  20. Posted

    Took a punt on al-Assad at the last minute, I was too tempted by the potential 13 points! Decided against Jardine and Metsu in the end, I think I may come to regret excluding Jardine but the fact they operated on him suggests they've caught his cancer early.

  22. Posted

    Still haven't had confirmation for my theme team? Not fussed about that, just worried might my main team won't go through when I send it tomorrow...

     

    EDIT: Nevermind, my fault, fixed it and main team and theme team sent off....cautiously optimistic about next year!

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