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15 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said:McCririck is really famous in the UK and DL is a UK forum.
You have to accept that the 50 names picked every year are going to be names that the average UK citizen is going to have a degree of familiarity with.
Anyway, Paddytwat will be along soon to blame Brexit for that so, if Kier Starmer/Kenneth Clarke/ Richard Branson or similar can get on the DL committee you may see a fully European flavoured list for 2020.....
Pretty much this
There are loads of people that are really famous to the point of being a household name in the UK but pretty much unheard of elsewhere. Jeremy Kyle is a great example
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10 minutes ago, TomTomTelekom said:Congratulations, I like the list. john wtfcirick is the only obscure choice for my taste, he may be old, ill or whatsoever, but really famous he is not. On the other side there are so many brave choices, new and big names. Gorbatchev or Tina Turner are real famous people that everyone knows in every hidden corner of the world.Happy and Healthy new Year to all of you
John McCririck is the sort of person who really has zero importance beyond the British Isles, but ask any person in the UK if they know "that guy from the horse racing with the massive sideburns" and guaranteed a majority will recognise him
He also feels like a very natural choice for the number 50 spot so surprised he hasn't been put in that position
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1 hour ago, Toast said:I don't understand the thinking behind "too big to miss". Surely it should be about their likelihood of dying, not their fame or position?
I've been saying the same for a while now on here.
They always prioritize the big names, even if they are less likely to die, over the somewhat less well known who are at death's door.
Anyway!
Happy new year everyone...
So thoughts?
Decent list, better than last year's, but not perfect by any means.
Some great new names on there for sure, but some other very important names missed out!
Dropping Pope Benedict and Leslie Philips was a poor decision.
And some of the new names towards the bottom of the list are poor picks.
Tina Turner is the worst pick on the list this year for me.
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14-15 sounds about right
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Javier Perez de Cuellar as always
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Just looked up Alexandra Bastedo on Wikipedia
She was seriously tidy in her day. Can't we, like, genetically recreate her or something? She's far more attractive than the people I had to look at in Sainsbury's this afternoon
She'd probably have her own Instagram page and be headhunted by the producers of Love Island so we could all get to ogle her
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Anyway, drove past HMV today. Sale on, not sure if that's just the norm or what at this time of year.
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4 minutes ago, Toast said:<in Four Yorkshiremen sketch voice>
4 TV channels? You were lucky!
I remember when there were only 2 channels, and we could only get BBC anyway because my parents didn't buy a new telly for years after ITV started.
Yeah most of the 80s and 90s. I remember when the Spice Girls did the opening show for Channel Five as well!
I bet you half the time on BBC it was just the staring girl and the creepy clown playing naughts and crosses during the day anyway wasn't it?
When I was a kid that was on late night and early mornings, along with all that Teletext pages and stuff like that, but I don't remember a time when actual programmes weren't on during what would be considered normal daytime!
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3 hours ago, the_engineer said:https://news.sky.com/story/2200-jobs-at-risk-as-hmv-on-brink-of-administration-11593091
HMV have finally given up the ghost, I knew they were in trouble when they started shutting their big stores in scotland, liverpool, london etc.
This will most likely be the final nail in music CD's coffin.
They were something of an anachronism in 2018 to be honest.
People still buy CDs and DVDs - I know I do - but the need for bricks and mortar retailers selling those items is no longer there.
It's just one more example of how the Internet has changed everything about the way that people live their lives.
Looking forward to being able to tell young people in the future that I remember a time when there were only 4 TV channels, there was no Internet, no smartphones, and computers were so primitive that you had to load the games on tapes, disks and cartridges that made funny noises when you connected them!
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14 minutes ago, runebomme said:"johnny rottens sperm"
it should be interesting how you plan to get some of that
it might be easier to get some kevin spacey's instead
Or Harvey Wankstain
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On 02/11/2015 at 21:11, Deathray said:If Jimmy Carter makes it to the next decade I'll eat a bucket of your shit and top it off with a gallon of katie hopkins piss mixed with johnny rottens sperm. And to add horror to that I'll fly for several hours on Ryanair sat next to you.
Just over a year to go...
Better start preparing your tastebuds, because that's an intense gustatory assault the likes of which the world has not seen before
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On 23/12/2018 at 19:47, YoungWillz said:Now he might not be dying. In fact he's a bit of a punt. But imagine the joyous write-up he'd get if he did go in 2019.
In the year of deal or no deal it has to be.....
He won't die until the 2030s
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4 hours ago, Joey Russ said:I see one of the committee members is on right now, so let’s recap a few names that should be on the list next year imo:
Mikhail Gorbachev
Sidney Poitier
Jacques Chirac
Nobby Stiles
Jean Louis Trintignant
Fernando Ricksen
Lee Kerslake
I doubt most of these will make it on tbh, but I do think all of them would make solid deathlist picks...
The first three or four of those are very, very Deathlistable names; the others less so
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Another thing that the DeathList should do is change "50 celebrities" to "50 famous people" on the main page.
I have a hard time trying to realistically imagine calling Javier Perez de Cuellar a celebrity
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On 19/12/2018 at 12:58, Death Impends said:In theory if one of Kirk and co live to 110 they'd still be DL eligible because their grand age wouldn't be their only claim to fame. That line only excludes types like Overton who were unknown before they were well past 100.
I understand that if Kirk Douglas lived to 111, he'd still be DeathList material.
But the likes of Overton? What about Jeanne Calment?
What about Alexander Imich, who was arguably notable, but hardly a household name?
I seem to remember there was one other woman who'd reached the age of 114 or something who died a few years back and had done something famous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leila_Denmark
DeathListable?
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21 hours ago, Sir Creep said:Sounds like someone is confusing likelihood of dying from ailment (forbidden) with likelihood of dying because we presume they are appproaching the end of life cycle (allowed). The ‘fame’ achieved through the unlikely continuation of life well beyond normal expectancies is allowable fame; whereas fame for being some bloke who teaches at the school down the road what happened to get stage 4 liver cancer, not so much.
There’s also the level of accomplishment factor. Lauren Hill played high school basketball. Period. Only ‘played’ in a college game after and because of the cancer discovery. Disallowed!
Andrew Smith played collegiate basketball (a level up) and part of a Final Four team, one that was a ‘Cinderella Story’ to boot. Allowed!
If you can’t make that distinction you’re in for a long long LONG exasperating time here at DL.
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That sounds like supercentenarians should be allowed on the list on grounds of age alone because of the fame that that age brings with it.
If that were true, then why not just replace the entire DeathList with this page?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_living_people
Surely you would end up with more hits?
IMHO a supercentenarian would have to have done something more than simply be old to get on the list. Was Jeanne Calment ever on the DeathList?
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So is this guy DeathList material or not?
If he makes it to 2019 he's going to be the joker on my own personal list, anyway, but...
As I already posted in the Richard Overton thread, one of the main criteria for inclusion is that "Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die in the near future".
The question is, does Sree Sree (if I can call him that) have enough claim to fame independent from his age in order to justify inclusion?
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Just a question.
Would Richard Overton be ineligible for the DeathList simply because his main claim to fame consists of being "the oldest" at something?
You could have a DeathList full of the world's oldest people - but then that wouldn't be much fun as it'd be too easy and pretty boring.
Basically, does the line "Candidates cannot be famous solely for the fact they are likely to die in the near future" exclude all supercentenarians by default?
Or are they eligible for the list if they have a valid claim to fame independent from their age?
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There are so many good choices out there.
Actually there are far more good choices than there ever will be room on the DeathList for them.
So what it boils down to is the choice between the best picks (most likely to die) and most famous (but not quite as likely to die) and it's the second group that seem to take precedence on the DeathList.
Everything I'm saying here I already said, but I still felt like saying it again!
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47 minutes ago, Sir Creep said:I agree w hockey’s obvious lack of popularity in almost all cases. However there are a very few stalwarts and game ambassadors that transcend cultural misgivings, and I’d like to believe the great Henri Richard is in the same echelon as Howe, Orr, Esposito, Hull, Gretzky, Limieux. If Scotty Bowman doesn’t QO, for instance, this game is a fraud. I suppose I feel the same re: Richard. Did Stan Mikita QO? Shame if he didn’t.
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Some of the main sports that are popular in the UK are football, rugby, cricket, golf, and tennis. Boxing and the Olympic sports also have some popularity.
For a sportsperson from a sport like hockey, baseball, or American football to appear on a British DeathList, it would have to be someone fairly iconic or one of the top individuals in their field, due to the fact that a UK obituary is required in order to be a hit.
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6 hours ago, Banana said:There's a name in my top 10 who has somehow only managed 1 mention on this forum and is a guaranteed QO. Curious to see if the Committee will be blind to this person as well.
If you are talking about Henri Richard, then I doubt the Committee will pick him because ice hockey isn't popular enough in the UK and he's not a name people here would know.
At least that's the way I see it, I could be wrong.
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On 11/12/2018 at 21:36, Joey Russ said:Time to start campaigning to get Lee Kerslake on the deathlist next year, now that he has months to live...
Seems like a decent pick to me, but hardly a household name
Basically the sort of person people will put on their own lists but the Committee won't
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2 hours ago, ImissMontpellier said:LaRouche and Le Pen Sr are obvious choices for 2019.
You would think so, but that brings me on to an important point I'd like to make.
Basically, when the Committee make their annual list, what they are doing is weighing up a person's fame/importance (considering whether they would be a "big hit" - i.e. a death that generates news headlines around the world) versus a person's likelihood of dying in a given year.
And it seems to me that the Committee often choose to miss out the people who are the most likely to die, even if they have been extensively discussed by the forums here, and instead put people who are less likely to die, but would be bigger hits if they did die.
There have been some really stupid misses by the committee as a result.
People who were perfectly notable and obitable, such as Howard Marks, John Wetton, and many others.
And yet they come away with shite picks like Ron Wood and Paul Gascoigne?
I just don't get it!
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Loads and loads of good names mentioned in this thread already. Some better than others of course!
Any unique picks not mentioned so far then that I would suggest? Looking at my own list from this year I can suggest:
Timothy Dudley-Smith (b. 1926) - hymn writer
Desmond Morris (b. 1928) - zoologist
Lyndon LaRouche (b. 1922) - American conspiracy theorist and political activist
Jean-Marie Le Pen (b. 1928) - former French National Front leader
Josef Fritzl (b. 1935) - Austrian incest dad
Irmin Schmidt (b. 1937) - German keyboardist, most of his bandmates have passed
Rex Garrod (DOB unknown) - engineer, creator of Brum and Cassius on Robot Wars
Plus pretty much all the other living candidates on my list in my signature as well would be decent enough picks (read it!)
I had an old list of names that I wrote up in 2016. Here are some less obvious names, still living, that I obtained from that list.
Hosni Mubarak
E O Wilson
Eugene Wright (jazz bassist)
Jean Raspail
Richard Lynn
Jurgen Habermas
Alan Greenspan
Ross Perot
Walter Mondale
Micheline Bernardini (French bikini woman - would be an absolutely ingenious pick)
Ron Jeremy
Gary Glitter
Anders Breivik
Ian Watkins
Roberta McCain
Burt Bacharach
Richard Sherman (Disney songwriter)
Peter Tobin
Tony Bennett
Bill Wyman
Kurt Westergaard
John Cantlie
Arvo PartRichard Wilson
Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg
Judy BlumeThere are probably more people that I could think of, people whose names I have encountered throughout the year and thought to myself they would be good candidates for this place, but I'm just too busy with my own life to be able to remember who they all are. I am a strictly casual Death Lister and only really come on here at Christmas and New Year, or when someone famous dies.
Hope this post has helped anyway, if even in just some small way!
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Who, on the 2019 List, Would You Most Like to Meet?
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Prince Philip, Vera Lynn, Robert Mugabe, Dick Van Dyke, Gorbachev, John McCririck, Little Richard, Tina Turner, Shane MacGowan and Ginger Baker might all be interesting in their own right