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  4. Posted

    On 1/1/2018 at 16:41, Gooseberry Crumble said:

    I'd never heard of him until today but I'm very happy to be educated and prompted to research new people and names by this forum. We learn something new everyday in life or at least we should! 

     

    You haven't lived!

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  5. Posted

    23 minutes ago, msc said:

     

    He's got a respiratory illness, and its enough to cancel gigs and look hellish but no one knows how ill he is.

     

    If you check out his thread you'll see what I wrote about him - basically I saw him live not all that long ago and he didn't look great then and it sounds like he's only gone downhill since then!

  6. Posted

    54 minutes ago, msc said:

    Oh go on, then:

     

    Kirk Douglas - Older than last year, will go one of these days and is stuck on the Deathlist till that day.

    Leah Bracknell - Will almost certainly die in 2018. Avg takes her to about March-May time, if she survives December, she'll outdo Errol Christie!

    Herman Wouk - Ancient and looking quite frail last year. Think this is him.

    Olivia de Havilland - Still seems full of life. Hope for all of us that advanced old age doesn't mean dementia, care homes or lose of personality.

    Prince Philip - On the downward slope now, aging increasingly and retired last year. I think he'll see the World Cup but Remembrance Day might be more of an issue.

    Billy Graham - Dunno how he's still alive. His god doesn't want him.

    Betty White - Seems fairly active.

    John McCain - Fucked. Glioblastoma AND more tumours on top of that. Ted Kennedy lived about 16 months with it, that'd take McCain to November, and if he manages that, he'll have done very very well.

    Linda Nolan - Wasted pick for now. Incurable cancer but treatable and it hasn't spread yet...

    Lord Carrington - Very old, still in good nick despite his age. Could do a Healey one of these days, but seems less frail than Denis.

    Javier Perez de Cuellar - That guy!

    Pierre Cardin - Old but I know little else.

    Stan Lee - Another who looks to be on the downward slope. Could be this year, could linger on. Still seems active for his age?

    Stirling Moss - OoO says he wont see 90. I trust OoO's judgement on motorsport people.

    Tessa Jowell - High grade brain tumour, looked like a ghost warmed up at Christmas. Likely fecked.

    Doris Day - Really old, survived a train crash in the 1930s. Must be made of strong stuff.

    Bob Dole - Think he's on the list till he drops now, but he's not looked great for some time, so that might not be too long away.

    Bob Barker - Really?

    Prunella Scales - The last canal journey looked like a goodbye. Not in the sense of her going immediately, but in the sense she can no longer do TV. If that's the case though, I think someone who desperately wants to do their job might go downhill faster than expected. 2018/19.

    Jimmy Carter - On till he drops, but seems far too healthy for now.

    Leslie Philips - Frail and rarely seen. Seen last year, looked frail. One of those "how are they still going?" names.

    Jill Gascoine - Said to be on the road out.

    Vera Lynn - Good for her age, but misses a few things due to age.

    Robert Mugabe - Still posting on this forum. Might be one of those out of power swiftly snuffs it types.

    George Bush Sr - Looks frail, lots of health issues, long year ahead for him.

    Charles Aznavour - Seems too active.

    Henry Kissinger - A cant miss, imo.

    Honor Blackman - Looked in fine nick in that Bond doc, but apparently it was a repeat. Had a bad stroke few years back.

    Barbara Bush - Looked worse than George at that concert in November. One goes, other will follow, imo.

    Dick Van Dyke -  Far too healthy.

    Stanley Baxter - I like this pick. Even if he's not likely to die in 2018.

    Giscard d'Estaing - Thought if he were going to be on the Deathlist he would have been years ago.

    Mel Brooks - Old, Deathlisty, but active.

    Pope Benedict - On till he drops.

    Neil Simon - end stage dementia, notable, likely good pick here.

    June Brown - Interesting pick. I think she should see out 2018 though. Mind you, if her career ends...

    Mubarak - Lying sod.

    Sean Connery - Back at long last. Looked really good at the US Open imo but other reports say frail. Not been in great health for many years hence the surprise of that US Open appearance.

    Louis Farrakhan - Deathlist in recent years is very good at bringing back an old Deathlist pick right in time for them to die - George Cole, Ali, etc. So this might be a clever pick.

    Denis Norden - Really old and doesn't work as much now due to eye issues. Feels like a 2018 pick, this years Sallis.

    Ian St John - Statistics bugger him, but... perhaps he got better. Either way he ain't telling us, and I'm less sure on him than I was last year, considerably.

    Jimmy Greaves - A pale shadow of himself, has the sense of the someone on the road out.

    Valerie Harper - Not sure when or where, tbh. She's defying medical science! (Warning - exaggeration preceeded)

    Clive James - Now MIA. For a man who talks about everything, that's worrying.

    Stephen Hawking - His year to come back on the list. Like Randi but he got dropped entirely.

    Ronnie Wood - A punt pick, but maybe a good one.

    Olivia Newton John - Bad pick imo.

    Joni Mitchell - Surely out of danger now?

    Gazza - Usual view on bad pick.

    Mark E Smith - It's a punt, but maybe a good one.

     

    So that gives me a baseline of 14, apparently: Brackers, Wouk, McCain, Moss, Jowell, Scales, Philips, Gascoine, Bush Sr, Barbara Bush, Simon, Norden, Greaves and Clive James. If true, that's a far better list in potential than it looked at midnight.

     

     

     

    That's a good analysis. The last five on this year's list are probably the most questionable picks.

     

    I had definitely underestimated how unwell Mark E. Smith actually is.

  7. Posted

    2 hours ago, GossipGabe said:

    As for the actual health problems, things seem to have taken a turn for the worse in late 2017. Some of the statements from the band and the management (Vander):

     

     

    Maybe he's in a worse state than I'd thought. We will just have to see.

     

    I was thinking about including him on my own shadow list but dropped him as I honestly didn't consider him to be a serious pick. Considered him to be more of a joke pick than anything else, but with health problems like he has, who's laughing now?

     

    Oh well, if he does croak then he'll have done his bit to contribute to the wonderful and frightening world of the deathlist!

  10. Posted

    I saw him live in 2016. Couldn't make out a word that he was singing, as usual.

     

    He looked more like an escapee from a care home than a rock star - and looked closer to 80 than 60. I've got no doubt he's treated his body like shit for decades with booze and fags and god knows what else, so there's always the possibility he could croak it this year.

     

    That being said, I still think he'll see 2019 more likely than not.

  11. Posted

    9 hours ago, Prophet said:

    If they want a Rolling Stone on the Deathlist: Why they didn't put Bill Wyman on it. He is much older and still has cancer (very likely).

     

    My thoughts exactly!

     

    Would be surprised if Ronnie Wood doesn't see 2019.

     

    What happened to that young Russian chick he was seeing for a while about 10 years ago?

  13. Posted

    Here's my shadow DeathList for 2018:

     

    1. Billy Graham
    2. Kirk Douglas
    3. I. M. Pei
    4. Olivia de Haviland
    5. Daniel arap Moi

     

    6. Peter Carrington
    7. Bernard Lewis
    8. Stefan Karl Stefansson
    9. William Frankland
    10. Beverly Cleary

     

    11. Herman Wouk
    12. Leah Bracknell
    13. Dennis Norden
    14. Javier Perez de Cuellar
    15. Vera Lynn

     

    16. George Bush Sr
    17. Pierre Cardin
    18. Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg
    19. Doris Day
    20. Prince Philip

     

    21. Dick Van Dyke
    22. John McCain
    23. Stan Lee
    24. Sumner Redstone
    25. Robert Mugabe

     

    26. Henry Kissinger
    27. Hosni Mubarak
    28. Benedict XVI
    29. Timothy Dudley-Smith
    30. Nicholas Parsons

     

    31. Lyndon LaRouche
    32. Charles Aznavour
    33. Tony Bennett
    34. Olivia Newton-John
    35. Jacques Delors

     

    36. Jimmy Carter
    37. Louis Farrakhan
    38. Chris Rea
    39. Desmond Morris
    40. Little Richard

     

    41. Alan Greenspan
    42. Tessa Jowell
    43. Jean-Marie Le Pen
    44. Desmond Tutu
    45. Gaston Glock

     

    46. Norman Tebbit
    47. Josef Fritzl
    48. Gudrun Ure
    49. Irmin Schmidt
    50. Rex Garrod

  14. Posted

    I was thinking we were gonna get an 18th hit but not so sure now to be honest.

     

    This month has been pretty crap for deaths - especially considering December is normally a good month for hits and you normally get a few big names around Christmas time at least.

     

    Who have we had this month so far? Really only King Mike, Keith Chegwin, Max Clifford, Heinz Wolff and a handful of pornstars. That's well below average for a normal December in death.

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  19. Posted

    On 12/20/2017 at 16:54, Gooseberry Crumble said:

    Whilst I generally have a sympathy with the idea the Queen would be too  big a name to miss I do think the committee can afford to drop her for 2018 and resume her continuously never to be dropped again status at  until she passes away at a later date. 

     

    It would be less risky to do that sooner rather than later so now is the best time to take this calculated risk in my opinion. 

    I think she's highly likely to live as long as her mother and then some but obviously not guaranteed it. 

    I think she's safe though next year and should be dropped for 2018. It will help free up room for fresh names and stop a big log jam of too many untouchables dominating the list. 

     

    I think she was put on because of having a cold last Christmas if I remember rightly?

     

    I don't think she's likely to go before 2020 at the absolute earliest and Philip will almost certainly go first, but even he is still in excellent health for his highly advanced age!

     

    So yeah, I'd say she's safe to drop for 2018 and probably 2019 as well but should definitely be put back on from 2020 onwards and then kept on permanently.

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  20. Posted

    Okay - here is a tentative shadow Deathlist from me for 2018:

     

    1. Billy Graham
    2. Kirk Douglas
    3. I. M. Pei
    4. Olivia de Haviland
    5. Daniel arap Moi

     

    6. Peter Carrington
    7. Vera Lynn
    8. Stefan Karl Stefansson
    9. William Frankland
    10. Beverly Cleary

     

    11. Herman Wouk
    12. Leah Bracknell
    13. Dennis Norden
    14. Javier Perez de Cuellar
    15. Jean, Grand Duke of Luxembourg

     

    16. George Bush Sr
    17. Pierre Cardin
    18. Prince Philip
    19. Doris Day
    20. Stan Lee

     

    21. Dick Van Dyke
    22. John McCain
    23. Hosni Mubarak
    24. Sumner Redstone
    25. Robert Mugabe

     

    26. Henry Kissinger
    27. Olivia Newton-John
    28. Benedict XVI
    29. Timothy Dudley-Smith
    30. Nicholas Parsons

     

    31. Lyndon LaRouche
    32. Charles Aznavour
    33. Tony Bennett
    34. Sidney Poitier
    35. Jacques Delors

     

    36. Jimmy Carter
    37. Louis Farrakhan
    38. Chris Rea
    39. Little Richard
    40. Desmond Morris

     

    41. Desmond Tutu
    42. Gudrun Ure
    43. Jean-Marie Le Pen
    44. Alan Greenspan
    45. Gaston Glock

     

    46. Norman Tebbit
    47. Josef Fritzl
    48. Mark E. Smith
    49. Irmin Schmidt
    50. Rex Garrod

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Good list? Bad list?

     

    Which good picks am I missing? Who needs to be on this list that isn't? And who should be removed?

  22. Posted

    5 hours ago, Life Is Beautiful said:

    A MUST next year.

     

    Out of the "Core 4" of Rock (Domino-Berry-Richard-Lewis), only two remain. People seem to mention Jerry Lee Lewis much more, which is very surprising because Little Richard:

    - is older

    -is the one who stopped performing years and years ago

    - is the one who was close to dying (according to various sources) many times before and is approaching the maximum lifespan of a rocker.

    I think the famous "Last Man Standing" monicker will finally apply for real to JLL.

     

     

    He is a must next year, but there have been even more certain "musts" like Howard Marks and John Wetton that have been totally ignored by the DeathList committee, so nothing's guaranteed.

     

    Out of my list, here are the names I would consider "musts":

     

    Nicholas Parsons

    Louis Farrakhan

    Alan Greenspan

    Jean-Marie Le Pen

    I. M. Pei

    Lyndon LaRouche

    Jacques Delors

    Norman Tebbit

    Little Richard

    Chris Rea

    Desmond Morris

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  23. Posted

    5 hours ago, Sean said:

    Rex Garrod is about 74.Inside knowledge I have is that he has indeed gotten significantly worse in the last few months though.He is physically fine though so could last a while yet.Desperately sad.I won't say anymore out of respect for the family though.

     

    Was watching some footage of the old Robot Wars on YouTube recently that featured him and his robot Cassius. He was such a nice guy that he said he didn't want to destroy his opponents' creations, only immobilize them, because he wanted to encourage, rather than discourage, kids to get into engineering. That approach wouldn't go far in the updated new series which features Carbide, Eruption, etc...

     

    Gotta love a bunch of grown men playing with remote controlled cars with weapons on them. Best form of entertainment ever!

  24. Posted

    4 hours ago, Joey Russ said:

    I'm in the belief that unless they are notable for something other than being famous for being a family member, they shouldn't be allowed on the deathlist. Only exceptions is when it's something like the Kennedy's or a wife of a Prime Minister or something like that, which McCain doesn't reach those levels imo...

     

    There seems to be a lot of disagreement about who is Deathlist worthy and who is not. Someone should really start a separate thread about it, because as far as deadpooling goes it's an important topic of discussion that leads to some critical decision making about who to include and who not to include.

     

    Officially the person has to get a UK obituary, but in practice what this usually seems to mean is that people who are more famous tend to get priority on the list over those who are somewhat less famous, even if the somewhat less famous people are considered more likely to die during a given year.

     

    In practice what this usually means is that on the final list that's put up at midnight on New Year's Day, there is a huge bias towards big names. This is why I can score hits on my shadow list with names like Jacque Fresco and Raymond Smullyan whereas in practice it's highly unlikely that these would be on the main list as they are considered too obscure.

  25. Posted

    31 minutes ago, Vinegar Tits said:

    Nooooooooo. June Whitfield is one of my 'untouchables' - people who I will never put in my deadpool. Mind you, perhaps that would be a good idea as judging by my recent DDP results anyone in my team seems to be granted eternal life.

     

    Someone I know saw and chatted to Nicholas Parsons a couple of days ago. Obviously a fall or a chill can be fatal at that age but he's absolutely fine and still sharp as a tack, so I wouldn't seriously consider him for 2018.

     

    At that age you take nothing for granted. For example, people thought Pete Seeger was too healthy to be on the list, so he got taken off the list and died almost immediately afterwards.

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