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New Zealand may be included in the Australian constitution, but despite his close mateship with Malcolm Turnbull, I'm certain our former PM John Key will agree that we pursue a thoroughly independent set of policies, despite the huge Kiwi diaspora in the East of the West Island. As such, I thought it was about due to have a new thread for us. I mean, no self-respecting Kiwi says 'Hooroo mate'. It's all 'chur bro' and 'aaaah, she'll be right' and 'oi'll hive sex scoops uvv fush and chups, cuz' So, without further ado, here's some of the NZ great and good to keep an eye on: Former Prime Ministers Geoffrey Palmer QC, 33rd PM (21 April 1942) Mike Moore, 34th PM (28 January 1949) Jim Bolger, 35th PM (31 May 1935) Dame Jenny Shipley, 36th PM (4 February 1952) Helen Clark, 37th PM (26 February 1950) Sir John Key, 38th PM (9 August 1961) Bill English, 39th PM (30 December 1961) Jacinda Ardern, 40th PM (26 July 1980) Governor-Generals Dame Catherine Tizard, 16th GG (4 April 1931) Sir Michael Hardie-Boys, 17th GG (6 October 1931) Dame Silvia Cartwright, 18th GG (7 November 1943) Sir Anand Satyanand, 19th GG (22 July 1944) Sir Jerry Mateparae, 20th GG (14 November 1954) Dame Patsy Reddy, 21st GG (17 May 1954) Dame Cindy Kiro, 22nd GG (2 July 1958) Order of NZ Dame Miriam Dell, Women's welfare campaigner (14 June 1924) Dame Kiri te Kanawa, Opera Singer (6 March 1944) Sir Miles Warren, Architect (1929) Jim Bolger, 35th PM (31 May 1935) Ken Douglas, Trade unionist (15 November 1935) Mike Moore, 34th PM (28 January 1949) Cardinal Tom Williams, Emeritus Catholic Archbishop of Wellington (20 March 1930) Jonathan Hunt, Former Speaker (2 December 1938) Lloyd Geering, Heretic & theologian (26 February 1918) Sir Kenneth Keith, Judge (19 November 1937) Sir Don McKinnon, Former Commonwealth Sec-Gen (27 February 1939) Sir Murray Halberg, Olympic Runner (7 July 1933) Helen Clark, 37th PM (26 February 1950) Sir Bob Charles, Golfer (14 March 1936) Albert Wendt, Writer (27 August 1939) Sir Ron Carter, Engineering Businessman (17 June 1935) Sir Peter Gluckman, Chief Science Advisor (1949) Richie McCaw, Master of the Dark Arts (31 December 1980) Joy Cowley, Writer (7 August 1936) Michael Duffy, Former Attorney General of Australia (2 March 1938) Dame Catherine Tizard, 16th GG (4 April 1931) Sir Brian Lochore, Rugby legend (3 September 1940) CK Stead, Author (17 October 1932) The Duke of Edinburgh, Loon (10 June 1921) Dame Margaret Bazley, Public Servant (23 January 1938) Sir Peter Jackson, Hobbit (31 October 1961) Dame Malvina Major, Opera Singer & Retirement Home (28 January 1943) Sir Shridath Ramphal, Former Commonwealth Sec-Gen (3 October 1928) Sir Mason Durie, Academic (4 December 1938) Dame Anne Salmond, Anthropologist & Writer (16 November 1945) Dame Silvia Cartwright, Jurist & Governor-General (7 November 1943) Sir Tipene O'Regan, Kaumātua (1 January 1939) Rugby Captains Sam Cane (13 January 1992) Kieran Read (26 October 1985) Richie McCaw, Master of the Dark Arts (31 December 1980) Tana Umaga (27 May 1973) Reuben Thorne (2 January 1975) Anton Oliver (9 September 1975) Todd Blackadder (20 September 1971) Taine Randall (5 November 1974) Sean Fitzpatrick (4 June 1963) Gary Whetton (15 December 1959) Wayne 'Buck' Shelford (13 December 1957) David Kirk (5 October 1960) Andy Dalton (16 November 1951) Graham Mourie (8 September 1952) Tane Norton (30 March 1942) Andy Leslie (10 November 1944) Ian Kirkpatrick (24 May 1946) Sir Brian Lochore (3 September 1940) Cricket Captains John R Reid (3 June 1928) Barry Sinclair (23 October 1936) Graham Dowling (4 March 1937) Glenn Turner (26 May 1947) Mark Burgess (17 July 1944) Geoff Howarth (29 March 1951) Jeremy Coney (21 June 1952) Jeff Crowe (14 September 1958) John Wright (5 July 1954) Ken Rutherford (26 October 1965) Lee Germon (4 November 1968) Stephen Fleming (1 April 1973) Daniel Vettori (27 January 1979) Ross Taylor (8 March 1984) Brendan McCullum (27 September 1981) Kane Williamson (8 August 1990) Tim Southee (11 December 1988) Oscar Winners Anna Paquin, The Piano (24 July 1982) Russell Crowe, Gladiator (7 April 1964) Jamie Selkirk, Return of the King () Sir Richard Taylor, Return of the King, Fellowship of the Ring & King Kong () Ngila Dickson, Return of the King (1958) Sir Peter Jackson, Return of the King (31 October 1961) John Gilbert, Hacksaw Ridge () Fran Walsh, Return of the King (10 January 1959) Bret McKenzie, The Muppets (29 June 1976) Grant Major, Return of the King (1955) Dan Hennah, Return of the King () Kim Sinclair, Avatar (10 July 1954) James Lucas, The Phone Call () Michael Hedges, Return of the King & King Kong () Hammond Peek, Return of the King & King Kong () Christian Rivers, King Kong (1974) Dan Lemmon, The Jungle Book () Dame Jane Campion, The Piano (30 April 1954) Philippa Boyens, Return of the King () Booker Prize Keri Hulme, The Bone People (Winner) (9 March 1947) Eleanor Catton, The Luminaries (Winner) (24 September 1985) Lloyd Jones, Mister Pip (Nominee) (23 March 1955) Olympic Gold Medallists [s]Yvette Williams, Women’s Long Jump, 1952 Helsinki (25 April 1929)[/s] Peter Snell, Men’s 800 Metres, 1960 Rome (17 December 1938) Men’s 800 Metres, 1964 Tokyo Men’s 1500 Metres, 1964 Tokyo Murray Halberg Men’s 5000 Metres, 1960 Rome (7 July 1933) Earle Wells, Sailing - Flying Dutchman, 1964 Tokyo (27 October 1933) [s]Warren Cole Rowing - Men’s Coxed Four, 1968 Mexico City (12 September 1940)[/s] Ross Collinge Rowing - Men’s Coxed Four, 1968 Mexico City (21 November 1944) Dick Joyce Rowing - Men’s Coxed Four, 1968 Mexico City (1 May 1946) Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich Athol Earl Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (1 October 1952) John Hunter Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (8 November 1943) Tony Hurt Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (30 March 1946) Gary Robertson Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (12 April 1950) Wybo Veldman Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (21 October 1945) Lindsay Wilson Rowing - Men’s Eight, 1972 Munich (15 October 1948) John Walker Men’s 1500 Metres, 1976 Montreal (12 January 1952) Mark Todd Equestrian - Individual Eventing, 1984 Los Angeles (1 March 1956) Equestrian - Individual Eventing, 1988 Seoul Shane O’Brien Men’s Coxless Four, 1984 Los Angeles (27 October 1960) Les O’Connell Men’s Coxless Four, 1984 Los Angeles (23 May 1958) Conrad Robertson Men’s Coxless Four, 1984 Los Angeles (27 December 1957) Keith Trask Men’s Coxless Four, 1984 Los Angeles (27 November 1960) Rex Sellers Sailing - Tornado, 1984 Los Angeles (11 November 1950) Russell Coutts Sailing - Finn, 1984 Los Angeles (1 March 1962) Ian Ferguson Canoeing - Men’s K1 500 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles (20 July 1952) Canoeing - Men’s K2 500 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles Canoeing - Men’s K4 1000 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles Canoeing - Men’s K2 500 Metres, 1988 Seoul Paul MacDonald Canoeing - Men’s K2 500 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles (8 January 1960) Canoeing - Men’s K4 1000 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles Canoeing - Men’s K2 500 Metres, 1988 Seoul Alan Thompson Canoeing - Men’s K1 1000 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles (14 June 1959) Canoeing - Men’s K4 1000 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles Grant Bramwell Canoeing - Men’s K4 1000 Metres, 1984 Los Angeles (28 January 1961) Bruce Kendall Sailing - Tornado, 1988 Seoul (27 June 1964) Barbara Kendall Sailing - Women’s Lechner, 1992 Barcelona (30 August 1967) Danyon Loader Swimming - Men’s 200m Freestyle, 1996 Atlanta (21 April 1975) Swimming - Men’s 400m Freestyle, 1996 Atlanta Blyth Tait Equestrian - Individual Eventing, 1996 Atlanta (10 May 1961) Rob Waddell Rowing - Men’s Single Sculls, 2000 Sydney (7 January 1975) C Evers-Swindell Rowing - Women’s Double Sculls, 2004 Athens (10 October 1978) Rowing - Women’s Double Sculls, 2008 Beijing G Evers-Swindell Rowing - Women’s Double Sculls, 2004 Athens (10 October 1978) Rowing - Women’s Double Sculls, 2008 Beijing Sarah Ulmer Cycling - Women’s Individual Pursuit, 2004 Athens (14 March 1976) Hamish Carter Triathlon, 2004 Athens (28 April 1971) Valerie Vili Women’s Shot Put, 2008 Beijing (6 October 1984) Women’s Shot Put, 2012 London Tom Ashley Sailing - Men’s RS:X, 2008 Beijing (11 February 1984) Nathan Cohen Rowing - Men’s Double Sculls, 2012 London (2 January 1986) Joseph Sullivan Rowing - Men’s Double Sculls, 2012 London (11 April 1987) Hamish Bond Rowing - Men’s Coxless Pair, 2012 London (13 February 1986) Rowing - Men’s Coxless Pair, 2016 Rio Eric Murray Rowing - Men’s Coxless Pair, 2012 London (6 May 1982) Rowing - Men’s Coxless Pair, 2016 Rio Mahe Drysdale Rowing - Men’s Single Sculls, 2012 London (19 November 1978) Rowing - Men’s Single Sculls, 2016 Rio Jo Aleh Sailing - Women’s 470, 2012 London (15 May 1986) Polly Powrie Sailing - Women’s 470, 2012 London (9 December 1987) Lisa Carrington Canoeing - Women’s K1 200m, 2012 London (23 June 1989) Canoeing - Women’s K1 200m, 2016 Rio Peter Burling Sailing - Men’s 49er, 2016 Rio (1 January 1991) Blair Tuke Sailing - Men’s 49er, 2016 Rio (25 July 1989)

It looks like this seat won't exist in the next general election, so it'll be a bit of a strange by-election. The area in the constituency at the moment will be split over 3 constituencies with perhaps the biggest share going to Bristol North-East, so I assume the winner will transition to that seat. As for Andrew Rosindell, I used to live near Romford and wouldn't be surprised to see a defunct greyhound wearing a blue rosette get up there. One of the bigger shocks in 1997 was that Labour won there with a 16% swing. He really is a contemptible little oik though, so hopefully good riddance.

No specific comment on Richard Osman as I've not read any of his books yet, but this growing trend of celebrities writing novels or books for children and using their profiles to achieve sales that writers can't hope to achieve without marketing support is quite annoying. I don't want to hear constant drones about what celebrity has managed to churn out a novel Hmm. That's a decent idea. When I think of something of interest when reading, I'm rarely near paper and pen. Most of my reading is done on the daily commute when I'm on the train.

One of my regrets in this process was in not making a few small notes as to what I liked or disliked about each book. I've been trying recently to reflect back on each year's shortlist to see what I can remember about each one and sadly some of the ones I read a fair while back I only have vague memories of (I started in 2016). With The Master, I'm not a fan of fictualising around real people and I'm not an expert in Henry James able to distill the complete fabrications from the fanciful from the reality or enhanced reality. The delivery of the novel conveys a real sense of the internal workings of the narrator's mind (whether it's a reasonable representation of Henry James or not). I recall some reasonably amusing moments - particularly with the narrator's aversion to conflict and his inability to fire his two house-staff who have become - shall we say - not fit for purpose due to alcohol consumption. I see on Goodreads, I give it a 3/5 score, but there's no finesse in that!

I know this is well out of date, but good luck finding a copy of The Conjunction anywhere. It's been out of print pretty much since publication and is a little bit... dated... shall we say? I read it at the British Library. Anyway, don't waste your time trying to track The Conjunction down. It's a bit poor.

Only 12 books left before I've read every shortlisted Booker Prize nominee from 1969-2009. 83 shortlisted books left to read in total. Currently reading Jhumpa Lahiri's The Lowland. According to Goodreads, I have given the following books 5 stars: The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro Empire of the Sun - JG Ballard The Redundancy of Courage - Timothy Mo Troubles - JG Farrell English Passengers - Matthew Kneale Such a Long Journey - Rohinton Mistry Disgrace - JM Coetzee Beside the Ocean of Time - George Mackay Brown The Life and Times of Michael K - JM Coetzee The True History of the Kelly Gang - Peter Carey Oryx and Crake - Margaret Atwood Morality Play - Barry Unsworth Good Behaviour - Molly Keane Sacred Hunger - Barry Unsworth A Month in the Country - JL Carr Rates of Exchange - Malcolm Bradbury The Narrow Road to the Deep North - Richard Flanagan His Bloody Project - Graeme Macrae Burnet Confederates - Thomas Keneally In hindsight, I might have also underrated Goshawk Squadron by Derek Robinson.

1. Vojislav Šešelj 2. Nikolai Ryzhkov 3. Mátyás Szűrös 4. Milan Panić 5. Josip Manolić 6. Lech Wałęsa 7. Alexander Bessmertnykh 8. Artur Rasizade 9. Biljana Plavšić 10. Raif Dizdarević Reserves 11. Philippe Morillon 12. Mart-Olav Niklus 13. Diego Arria And yes, I have recently watched the superb BBC documentary The Death of Yugoslavia. What of it?

Updated for Michael Hardie-Boys, Cardinal Tom Williams, Ken Douglas and Miles Warren. Can't adjust the Olympian table - I'll have to update this manually later.

Good to see someone resurrected the pool I started back in (I think) 2017. Bit more popular than the original run's 3 entrants.

I guess this is an idea that is almost diametrically opposite to the Death Pool, not sure how much interest there'll be in it as there's bound to be a lot more luck involved than for the Death Pooling. What you do is instead pick 20 celebrities who you think will have a child in 2018. Rules: 1. Teams have to be sent in by 31/03/2017. This ensures that you can't select someone who's already publicly pregnant, or if you do, you'd have to risk an exceptionally late birth. 2. You can pick either the mother or father of the child, but the parent has to be a celebrity. 3. You score points once the celebrity (or celebrity's partner) gives birth. 3. Papers are less likely to report on births than deaths, so you will have to find some corroborative source to support the factual nature of the birth. National newspapers from any country are acceptable as sources, as are their online equivalents. 4. Celebrity is defined by the pick having a Wikipedia page that existed before 1 January 2016 (this can be found on View History on the top right hand corner of a Wikipedia page) 5. You can't pick both likely parents of the same child in the event that both mother and father count as celebrities 6. If there is any public doubt as to the identity of the father of the child, then the pick will be 'lost' 7. Picks must be legal (i.e. the parent must be over the age of consent in their home country) As a rookie here, I'm happy to take any suggestions on the rules. Tempted to make it so you get more points for picking older people. Something like: Age of parent at time of birth: Mother: 17-30: 10 points 31-35: 15 points 36-40: 20 points 41-50: 40 points 51+: 100 points Father: 17-30: 10 points 31-40: 15 points 41-50: 20 points 51-60: 40 points 61-70: 70 points 71+: 100 points

Not long after John R Reid, another NZ stalwart - John F Reid - has passed away. Much younger and more unexpected of course. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/300194432/former-new-zealand-cricketer-john-f-reid-dies-aged-64

The ANZAC List belatedly makes a return. Thanks to all those that contributed to the list. I put this together on Friday,, but have been out and only got round to posting today. In the meantime, Mike Moore died this morning so that's theoretically a first hit. If anyone is concerned about the fact I haven't posted the list before he's scuttled off this mortal coil, then I'll bring in a sub, but he was a returner from last year and I've picked him for DDP teams for a number of years. 25 people return from last year (last year's position in Brackets) and 25 newbies on the list. David Gulpilil takes the #1 slot, but the majority of the list was pretty volatile. 1. David Gulpilil (b. 1 Jul 1953, Arnhem Land) Australian 2. Elizabeth Chong (b. 27 May 1931, Canton) Australian 3. Levi Holley (b. ~1975) New Zealander 4. (18) Neale Daniher (b. 15 Feb 1961, West Wyalong) Australian 5. (47) Alan Davidson (b. 14 Jun 1929, Lisarow) Australian 6. Fred Nile (15 Sep 1934, Kings Cross) 7. (13) Graham Richardson (b. 27 Sep 1949, Sydney) Australian 8. (32) Margaret Guilfoyle (b. 15 May 1926, Belfast UK) Australian 9. (10) Barry du Bois (b. 4 Aug 1960, Sydney) Australian 10. Judith Durham (b. 3 Jul 1943, Essendon) Australian 11. (22) Neil Harvey (b. 8 Oct 1928, Fitzroy) Australian 12. (34) Mary Ward (b. 6 Mar 1915, Fremantle) Australian 13. Gavin Robertson (b. 28 May 1966, St Leonards) Australian 14. Bruce Reid (Aussie Rules bloke) (b. 4 Apr 1946, Melbourne) Australian 15. (30) Neale Fraser (b. 3 Oct 1933, Melbourne) Australian 16. Deane Sutherland (b. mid-late 1960s, ) New Zealander 17. (49) Loongkoonan (b. 1910, Kimberley) Australian 18. Bruce Beresford (b. 16 Aug 1940, Sydney) Australian 19. (24) Ken Shadie (b. 8 Dec 1935, Bondi) Australian 20. (11) Butch Miller (b. 21 Oct 1944, Auckland) New Zealander 21. (50) 'Superstar' Mick Dundee (b. 24 October 1943, Scotland) Australian 22. (25) John R Reid (b. 3 Jun 1928, Auckland) New Zealander 23. Jean Hurring (b. 23 Dec 1930, Dunedin) New Zealander 24. (1) Jeanne Little (b. 11 May 1938, Sydney) Australian 25. Neal Blewett (b. 3 Dec 1933) Australian 26. Dame Miriam Dell (b. 14 Jun 1924) New Zealander 27. Ray Lawler (b 23 May 1921, Footscray) Australian 28. (37) Sir Richard Hadlee (b. 3 Jul 1951, Christchurch) New Zealander 29. (4) Ken Rosewall (b. 2 Nov 1934, Sydney) Australian 30. Sir Murray Halberg (b. 7 Jul 1933, Eketahuna) New Zealander 31. (17) Roy Emerson (b. 3 Nov 1936, Blackbutt) Australian 32. (33) Clive Revill (b. 18 April 1930, Wellington) New Zealander 33. (27) Tony Garea (b. 20 Sep 1946, Auckland) New Zealander 34. (39) Fred Stolle (b. 8 Oct 1938, Hornsby) Australian 35. Marie Bashir (1 Dec 1930) Australian 36. Luciana Arrighi (b. 1940, Rio de Janeiro) Australian 37. (3) Olivia Newton-John (b. 26 Sep 1948, Cambridge UK) Australian 38. (14) Pauline Parker (b. 26 May 1938, Christchurch) New Zealander 39. Sir Roger Douglas (b. 5 Dec 1937, Auckland) New Zealander 40. Ken Archer (b. 17 Jan 1928, Yeerongpilly) Australian 41. (43) Mike Moore (b. 28 Jan 1949, Whakatane) New Zealander LINK 42. Molly Meldrum (b. 29 Jan 1943, Orbost) Australian 43. [DUPLICATE] 44. (21) Frank Sedgman (b. 29 Oct 1927, Mont Albert) Australian 45. Sir Michael Hardie Boys (b. 6 Oct 1931, Wellington) New Zealander 46. Peta Murphy (b. 1 Nov 1973, Goulburn) Australian 47. (6) Rod Laver (b. 9 Aug 1938, Rockhampton) Australian 48. Cliff Green (b. 6 Dec 1934, Melbourne) Australian 49. Donald McAlpine (b.13 Apr 1934, Quandialla) Australian 50. Howard Sattler (b. 1945, Cootamundra) Australian

Anyway, now that's updated. If anyone would like to submit a list of potential starters for 2021, then just PM me. Chur.

Annoyingly, Ken Shadie is on the list twice and I can't currently find the original spreadsheet to replace him. Still, I make the score 9/50.

Updating this. It's been a while. Margaret Guilfoyle died: https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7020589/pioneer-politician-margaret-guilfoyle-dies/?cs=14264 Jean Hurring: https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/swimming/otago-swimming-great-dies Cliff Green: https://www.smh.com.au/national/gifted-writer-behind-screenplay-for-picnic-at-hanging-rock-20201209-p56lxx.html As noted, so have: Bruce Reid: https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/essendon-icon-dr-bruce-reid-dead/news-story/a91e3bdb61877a5b80526238d6adf9bf Deane Sutherland: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/kiwi-musician-deane-sutherlands-family-kept-from-farewelling-him-due-to-lockdown/4ZXATHBTTBP2G7B5XWA66FNTEA/ Ken Shadie: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnewslocal%2Fken-shadie-crocodile-dundee-cowriter-and-brooklyn-identity-dies-at-84%2Fnews-story%2Ff0f7d38ed169a60f98bae5e9d45c07d5&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium John R Reid: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cricket-new-zealand-great-john-r-reid-dies-at-92/JU63RUK4Z7CDKO2JGQNHFWT764/ Jeanne Little: https://www.smh.com.au/culture/celebrity/legendary-australian-entertainer-jeanne-little-dies-20201107-p56cgs.html

Did anyone pick Mike Moore this year? If not, he should be on the List of the Missed. Pretty sure I picked him previously. Can't open the DDP website anymore. Seems to have been barred for some reason.

Roseberry can't be the most common name. Is he former Middlesex-opener (and County Durham born) Mike Roseberry's dad, I wonder?

With the help of some other contributors (but sadly, not many), I've assembled this list of 50 Australian and New Zealander celebrities for 2019. 1. Jeanne Little (b. 11 May 1938, Sydney) Australian 2. Clive James (b. 7 Oct 1939, Sydney) Australian 3. Olivia Newton-John (b. 26 Sep 1948, Cambridge UK) Australian 4. Ken Rosewall (b. 2 Nov 1934, Sydney) Australian 5. John Cocks (b. 23rd Aug 1966) New Zealander - LINK 6. Rod Laver (b. 9 Aug 1938, Rockhampton) Australian 7. Anne Hamilton Byrne (b. 1921) Australian - LINK 8. Bob Hawke (b. 9 Dec 1929, Bordertown) Australian - LINK 9. Andrew McGahan (b. 1966, Dalby) Australian - LINK 10. Barry du Bois (b. 4 Aug 1960, Sydney) Australian 11. Butch Miller (b. 21 Oct 1944, Auckland) New Zealander 12. Prince Leonard Of Hutt River (b. 1926) Australian - LINK 13. Graham Richardson (b. 27 Sep 1949, Sydney) Australian 14. Pauline Parker (b. 26 May 1938, Christchurch) New Zealander 15. Brian Lochore (b. 3 Sep 1940, Masterton) New Zealander - LINK 16. Fred Schepisi (b. 26 Dec 1939, Melbourne) Australian 17. Roy Emerson (b. 3 Nov 1936, Blackbutt) Australian 18. Neale Daniher (b. 15 Feb 1961, West Wyalong) Australian 19. Paul Hogan (b. 8 Oct 1939, Lightning Ridge) Australian 20. Rolf Harris (b. 30 Mar 1930, Bassendean) Australian 21. Frank Sedgman (b. 29 Oct 1927, Mont Albert) Australian 22. Neil Harvey (b. 8 Oct 1928, Fitzroy) Australian 23. Margaret Court (b. 16 Jul 1942, Albury) Australian 24. Ken Shadie (b. 8 Dec 1935, Bondi) Australian 25. John R Reid (b. 3 Jun 1928, Auckland) New Zealander 26. Marlene Mathews (b. 14 Jul 1934, Sydney) Australian 27. Tony Garea (b. 20 Sep 1946, Auckland) New Zealander 28. Dawn Fraser (b. 4 Sep 1937, Balmain) Australian 29. Rupert Murdoch (b. 11 Mar 1931, Melbourne) Australian 30. Neale Fraser (b. 3 Oct 1933, Melbourne) Australian 31. Max Merritt (b. 30 April 1941, Christchurch) New Zealander 32. Margaret Guilfoyle (b. 15 May 1926, Belfast UK) Australian 33. Clive Revill (b. 18 April 1930, Wellington) New Zealander 34. Mary Ward (b. 6 Mar 1915, Fremantle) Australian 35. Mike Willesee (b. 29 Jun 1942, Perth) Australian - LINK 36. Everlyn Sampi (b. 6 Oct 1933, Derby) Australian 37. Sir Richard Hadlee (b. 3 Jul 1951, Christchurch) New Zealander 38. Jim Bolger (b. 31 May 1935, Opunake) New Zealander 39. Fred Stolle (b. 8 Oct 1938, Hornsby) Australian 40. Stuart Fraser (Noiseworks) (b. ~1960?, Sydney) Australian - LINK 41. Patsy King (b. 1929) Australian 42. Ashley Cooper (b. 15 Sep 1936, Melbourne) Australian 43. Mike Moore (b. 28 Jan 1949, Whakatane) New Zealander 44. Barry Humphries (b. 17 Feb 1934, Melbourne) Australian 45. Reg Watson (b. 1926, Brisbane) Australian - LINK 46. Ron Elvidge (b. 2 Mar 1923, Timaru) New Zealander - LINK 47. Alan Davidson (b. 14 Jun 1929, Lisarow) Australian 48. Dick Tayler (b. 12 Aug 1948, Timaru) New Zealander 49. Loongkoonan (b. 1910, Kimberley) Australian 50. 'Superstar' Mick Dundee (b. 24 October 1943, Scotland) Australian

I'd think that a theme team has to reasonably be some kind of small minority to be picking from. Allowing a team that can be picked from ~50% of the world's population doesn't seem particularly on. But, it depends whether the theme team league is a "fun" thing or a competitive thing. Let's get statistical and weight teams based on the percentage of the overall population that their team consists of. Therefore, a hit in the "all male" or "all woman" team might be weighted at 0.5 based on women/men being approx. 50% of the population. Then, on the other hand, selecting a team from the cast and crew of the 70s film for masochistic children, Watership Down (like my better half did a couple of years back) would afford each hit a weighting of ~100/7.5bn. So, if Ray Merrin had received a QO, then he'd have been worth the standard number of points divided by (100/7.5x10^9) which would have meant Merrin would have scored ~3*10^8 points for her (300,000,000) compared to only 8 points for the hypothetical person selecting Merrin for their all male theme team. I think we can all agree that the simplicity and satisfaction in appropriately awarding niche teams would go a long way towards making the Theme Team League a more highly respected competition.

Yes. He shouldn't have been in the Basil Brush thread. He should have been in a Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister one. Heartbeat. Pffft. What next? A thread for Lovejoy?

Any more for any more for the 2020 Anzac list? @Davey Jones' Locker @Dr_T I'll drop in Chorizo and Whoami's suggestions into last year's master list to see what the model drops out, but still 10 days to go to get any suggestions in.

Ah jeez. I miss the DDP moving house and I now miss the Cup because I was away. I thought this started a bit later in the year, but I guess it already is later in the year. Good luck to the fair ship Deathlist Cup and all the ragged, tormented line-ups that dwell therein. Plus, someone give John Key, that slurred-voiced, megolomaniacal cryptofascist a good old fashioned thrashing please. Tear down the Tall Poppies.

Dammit. Gonna be tough to challenge this list with an ANZAC one that's gonna be a month late from starting! Surely Margaret Atwood is tough as nails though.

11 out of 50 for the first run at the ANZAC list, it would seem. A bit late to start this year's on time, but if people would like to message me with their list of names for 2020 then I'll throw up a new list by the end of January.

Ha. I missed out on defending my Theme Team crown by 1 point to a theme that represents >50% of the global population. Why do I always insist on picking Michael Somare? Anyway, I've been away and also moved house over the last 2 weeks, so didn't get to submit in for 2020, so have a ball all! And belated congratulations to DI.