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49 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 42 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 34 Blondie – Heart of Glass 29 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -6

After Grosheide's death, I took a look at the earliest Dutch cabinets with living members. Earliest cabinets with living members - kabinet Biesheuvel I (1971-1972) Ministers (1/16) Dries van Agt (1931), KVP; Justice State secretaries (2/13) Jan van Stuijvenberg (1928), DS'70; Interior Tjerk Westerterp (1930-2023), KVP; Foreign Affairs Jan Oostenbrink (1936), KVP; Economic Affairs - kabinet Biesheuvel II (1972-1973) Ministers (1/14) Dries van Agt (see above); Justice State secretaries (1/11) Tjerk Westerterp (see above); Foreign Affairs Jan Oostenbrink (see above); Economic Affairs - kabinet Den Uyl (1973-1977) Ministers (3/18) Dries van Agt (see above); deputy Prime Minister & Justice Bram Stemerdink (1936), PvdA; Defence Tjerk Westerterp (see above); Transport and Water Management Jan Pronk (1940), PvdA; Development aid State secretaries (6/21) Laurens Jan Brinkhorst (1937), D66; Foreign Affairs Martin van Rooijen (1942), KVP; Finance Bram Stemerdink (see above); Defence Michel van Hulten (1930), PPR, Transport and Water Management Marcel van Dam (1938), PvdA; Housing Wim Meijer (1939), PvdA; Culture After the cabinet of Joop den Uyl (1919-1987), there followed a period from 1977-1994 in which there were three cabinets of Dries van Agt (b. 1931) and another three of Ruud Lubbers (1939-2018), both members of the catholic KVP/CDA. I'll probably cover them in another post but will wait until more of them start to drop. Some notable surviving names in these earliest three cabinets: - Dries van Agt, later became PM from 1977-1982. - Laurens Jan Brinkhorst, also served as minister under Balkenende and is the father of Laurentien Brinkhorst, prince Constantijns wife. - Martin van Rooijen, later became a member of the Tweede Kamer for the elderly party 50PLUS, and is fraction leader in the Eerste Kamer/senaat since 2019. Party leader for the next elections, planned for march 2025.

To put things in perspective, wikipedia tells me she is his second cousin ... and 27 years younger than him Which means they got married at 49 and 22.

Exactly! It would be appreciated a lot more when you post about individual people and why they might be great selections. Your previous list with predictions, however fun they probably are for you since your clear liking for the genarians site, didn't really tell us anything since they were not based on insights on individual people but more, broad predictions. When you would go on and post in some of the existing threads about people you think might be good picks sinds they are old, ill, or otherwise in danger of death, I'm sure you will get more positive reactions to your contributions.

52 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 42 Donna Summer - I Feel Love -6 47 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 29 Blondie – Heart of Glass 16 ABBA – The Name of the Game

Merry christmas to my fellow DL'ers as well as your families and friends! Fijne kerst!

Politician Hans Grosheide has died at 92 on December 21. He was a member of the ARP and after its fusion with the KVP and CHU in 1980, the united party CDA. Grosheide was state secretary for education 1963-1971, member of the Tweede Kamer in 1971 and state secretary for justice 1971-1973. In total he served in six cabinets; he was the last living member of the cabinets Marijnen (1963-1965), Cals (1965-1966), Zijlstra (1966-1967) and De Jong (1967-1971). The earliest cabinet with living members is the first Biesheuvel cabinet (1971-1972).

Didn't know his name, did know his voice: Faithless was massive in the 90's and some of their songs are still played occasionally on the Dutch radio. Not the type of music I listen to on my own, but they made multiple songs that (in my opinion) really define the 90's, Maxi Jazz' voice making them stand out. For me MJ reminds me a bit of Keith Flint; leading man with a unique voice of a huge 90's act, which I knew some songs of for a long time without knowing these men themselves by name before their death.

48 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights -2 45 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -4 44 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 35 ABBA – The Name of the Game 29 Blondie – Heart of Glass 14 Gary Numan – Cars 9 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody

I'll go a bit lower just in case; 5 more deaths before 2023 (12 in total)

52 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 49 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -6 38 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 37 ABBA – The Name of the Game 37 Blondie – Heart of Glass 14 Gary Numan – Cars 9 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody As many others before me have said, there are no "bad" songs left. I like Space Oddity and Bohemian Rhapsody most of these last seven, but all of them are alright.

51 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 45 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 45 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 35 Blondie – Heart of Glass 34 ABBA – The Name of the Game 34 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 25 Gary Numan – Cars 15 ABBA – Knowing Me, Knowing You 12 T.Rex – Get It On -2 2 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive -4

Because it just goes to show, while some do, not everyone becomes a centenarian

49 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 44 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 44 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 33 ABBA – The Name of the Game 31 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 30 ABBA – Knowing Me, Knowing You 27 Gary Numan – Cars 23 Blondie – Heart of Glass 21 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive 13 Baccara – Yes Sir, I Can Boogie -4 12 T.Rex – Get It On -2 05 The Sweet – Blockbuster

52 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 43 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 38 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 33 Gary Numan – Cars 30 ABBA – The Name of the Game 26 ABBA – Knowing Me, Knowing You 25 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive 23 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 20 Baccara – Yes Sir, I Can Boogie 19 Blondie – Heart of Glass 14 T.Rex – Get It On -2 11 10cc – I'm Not in Love -2 10 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge over Troubled Water 8 The Sweet – Blockbuster -2 7 Nilsson - Without You 6 Alice Cooper – School's Out 3 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles – Tears of a Clown

King on a thing

43 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 38 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 34 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 29 ABBA – Knowing Me , Knowing You 27 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 26 Blondie – Heart of Glass 26 Gary Numan – Cars 24 ABBA – The Name of the Game 22 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive 22 Baccara – Yes Sir, I Can Boogie 18 Nilsson – Without You 16 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge over Troubled Water 15 The Sweet – Blockbuster -2 14 T.Rex – Get It On -2 14 10cc – I'm Not in Love -2 13 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles – Tears of a Clown 09 Alice Cooper – School's Out 8 Don McLean – Vincent 4 ABBA – Waterloo

Announced dead in this article, with "proof": a Facebook user giving a tribute to Mark, while quoting the above tweet. No new information given. Have some people forgot how to read or is clickbait journalism really this bad?

Or worse, secret pancreatic cancer...

A big death in the Netherlands this week: Karel van Eerd, longtime owner of supermarket concern Jumbo, passed away on 14th december, aged 84. Van Eerd was one of the richest people in the country at an estimated € 2,9 billion. Van Eerd bought the name Jumbo in 1984 after already running a family store for some decades, and made it one of the biggest supermarket concerns of the Netherlands - where there were three Jumbo's in 1984, the concern has grown to about 700 stores in the Netherlands and Belgium. His son Frits had been general manager of Jumbo since 2002 but recently stepped back from the position after he was arrested for suspected money laundering. Van Eerd Sr. lived nearby our municipality, like Frits still does; while I don't know the family personally, they are some of the most well known people in the area. Karel (1938-2022) and Frits van Eerd (1967)

37 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 35 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 34 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 34 Blondie – Heart of Glass 27 10cc – I'm Not in Love 26 ABBA – Knowing Me , Knowing You 26 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 25 Gary Numan – Cars 24 ABBA – The Name of the Game 23 The Sweet – Blockbuster 22 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive 22 Baccara – Yes Sir, I Can Boogie 20 Nilsson – Without You 16 T.Rex – Get It On 13 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles – Tears of a Clown 12 Alice Cooper – School's Out 12 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge over Troubled Water 8 Don McLean – Vincent 4 ABBA – Waterloo 0 Suzi Quatro – Can the Canned -6

28 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 22 ABBA – Knowing me, knowing you 21 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 21 Alice Cooper – School´s out 21 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 20 ABBA – The name of the game 20 ABBA – Waterloo 20 Baccara – Yes Sir, I can boogie 20 Bay City Rollers – Bye bye baby 20 Blondie – Heart of glass 20 Don McLean – Vincent 20 Donna Summer – I feel love 20 Gary Numan – Cars 20 Nilsson – Without you 20 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge over troubled water 20 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles – Tears of a clown 20 Suzi Quatro – Can the can 20 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive  20 10CC – I´m not in love 20 The Sweet – Blockbuster 20 T.Rex – Get it on 16 Althea & Donna – Up Town Top Ranking 15 ABBA – Fernando 14 Blondie – Sunday Girl 12 Slade – Coz I luv you -6

60 Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights 58 Althea and Donna - Up Town Top Ranking 50 Blondie – Heart of glass 49 Gary Numan – Cars 24 The Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star 18 Bee Gees – Tragedy 12 Ian Dury & the Blockheads – Hit me with your rhythm stick 11 Bee Gees - Night Fever 11 Police – Message in a bottle +4 6 Blondie – Sunday Girl -6

60 Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights 51 Althea and Donna - Up Town Top Ranking +4 50 Blondie – Heart of glass 45 Gary Numan - Cars 26 ABBA – Take a chance on me 24 Police – Message in a bottle +4 22 Bee Gees - Night Fever 18 Ian Dury & the Blockheads – Hit me with your rhythm stick -6 17 The Buggles - Video Killed the Radio Star 16 Bee Gees – Tragedy 12 Blondie – Sunday Girl

Read that book when I was a child, think it might still be somewhere upstairs. In Dutch it was translated as "Over een kleine mol die wil weten wie er op zijn kop gepoept heeft". And the saddest part besides the illustrators death, now I can't remember who did it! Was it a dog?