Not Deathers

While I seem to have been given undue leniency to still be here..... Let's at least confirm this will run next year. SEND YOUR TEAM TO haresdeathpool @ gmail .com (without the spaces) PLEASE - DO NOT PM, POST IN THREAD OR PIGEON IT - EMAIL IT. Either use a team name or use your forum name as the title - i.e 'Not Deathray - Hares 2021 Entry' or 'Carker's Convention - Hares 2021 Entry' What happens after January is anybody's guess, but I'll do the donkey work of collating master-lists and teams. Honestly me collating teams and somebody (the stuff I enjoy) and someone else dealing with the scoring might be the most fruitful approach to this pool. With people interested in running this's main concern being the New Year teaming up stuff, I feel obliged to step in to save my dead pool. I hope the mods understand the desire not to see this die. Welcome to the 8th annual Hares Death Pool (Jesus, that many?). Sick of your Deathrace team living a few months too long, they (topped up with a few friends) might do okay here.... Hares Death Pool The Rules (Last updated 2 Jan 2019) 1) Your Team All teams must contain 25 people with some claim to fame (See FFBI section) you expect to die, and a nominated joker amonst the main 25. A maximum 5 subs are permitted for any picks who die before the starting line. (These substitutes will be promoted in order if required) All picks must be human beings aged over 18 on January 1st of the game year.. Death row prisoners only score if they die of other causes, those still on trial will still score points if sentenced to execution after 0000 on January 1st. Entries must be posted in the annual Hares Death Pool thread or PMed to the game runner EMAILED TO: haresdeathpool @ gmail .com (without the spaces) The competition automatically opens for entries at 0001 on the 1st December and closes at 2359 on December 31st. Substitutes will be automatically promoted if deaths become known about on January 1st or later from the previous years Note: in light of the automatic promotion of subs the host sees no reason to include the January 1st leeway for replacement. However in the unlikely case a player uses all 5 substitutes on picks who died before January 1st a special dispensation will be permitted allowing them add picks up until 2359 January 1st to get them back 25 names up until 2359 on January 1st . If someone has not provided 5 substitutes they will not be entitled to this dispensation as it's their own fault they're short..... Late entries are not permitted. Hosts have long come to the conclusion there is no reason for exceptions now the deadline is 2359 rather than 1600....... Entries submitted on the 31st December could suffer abuse from a stressed host via email response (It's something of a tradition, but kinder hosts are not compelled to continue it) For teams submitted up until midday on the 31st December every effort will be made to clarify who your picks are should there be confusion. Hare's has always been incredibly lenient on this front but we recommend you include good old bracket tradition - (i.e cancer nobody but she's a local celebrity who fundraised for dying cats before she got diagnosed, covered by the Buttfricknowhere Gazette....) or (geriatric actor). For teams submitted after midday on the 31st December you'll just get the first name that comes up on a cursory google search if you've not clarified who they are. The host may add cancer/brain tumour/ill to that search if they are feeling nice (see Rule 9 - unlikely)....  NEW FOR 2020 - The one team per person rule is adjusted to one team per email as that's about as far as this method of entry can assess. If your sad enough to create a few dozen email addresses then you poor person ought to get out more. 2) Obituary Rules Celebrities qualify if they achieve an obituary or article about their death in a local, national or even specialist newspaper/website*. The aforementioned article does not need to specifically relate to their death, instead just mention it and date it*. or website/magazine/paper. If in doubt cite your death note for approval. There is absolutely no requirement for obits to be in the English language, however translations should be provided if they are not. The obit may be published in any language but entrants should give the host or scorer a translation if it is not in English. Note: (It's become a tradition for foreign dead pool players to submit local hero teams of DDP useless picks to the Hares on account of this and long may that continue!) The * on specialist websites refers to the following: paid for obituary sites are not specialist websites and will be not used to clarify, the same applies to death notice sections of otherwise acceptable sources. The exception to this rule is if these sites have a celebrities death page - should the picks death notice/paid for obituary feature on their celebrity deaths page/feed the points will be awarded. Note: Wording of this rule has been slightly tightened in this update compared to the old rules but enforcement of it remains the same. Social media posts, personal blogs etc do not count. The cut off period for obituaries has always informally been 2359 on the 7th January the year after the competition ends. (death date must be recorded as 31st December at the latest) - just popping this in here to solidify that rule going forward... 3) Scoring Rules For the purposes of determining the date of death of a celebrity the information to hand will be used to determine the points allocated to the competitors who chose the person. In the event that an exact date is available For the avoidance of doubt journalistic nuisance phrases 'on Wednesday, or last night/yesterday' will count as dates of death, with the date being determined by the tedious process of working it out - ) , full points will be awarded. In the event that only the month of death is in the obituary, points will be awarded to the first date of the month (in September) that has been given ('the Leah Bracknell' rule) if a date is subsequently given in press before the closure of the competition window the remaining points will be added to the total. In the very unfortunate event that only the year of death is provided in the qualifying obituary the poor bastard who picked them will be awarded points to the first day of the year that is given (which the savvy among you will have worked out is 0 points). The overall points system is incredibly simple: 1 Point for each day of the year that passes before your celebs death (if they die on the 10th of January you are awarded 9 points for example) up until the games close at midnight on the 31st December. Pick 1 of your celebrities as a joker to double the points for that pick upon their death. (i.e if they die on the 9th January you'll get 16 points). Jokers are calculated before the 250 point bonus, meaning are 31st December joker will score 978 in a normal year and 980 in a leaper year. 250 point bonus if one of your "celebrities" dies on 31st December in that game year (i.e a 31st death will score 614 points in a normal year or 615 points in a leap year rather than the 364 or 365 points it would normally accrue) In the impressive event of all 25 of your team dying you will receive a 500 point bonus 4) The Don't Be A Dickhead Rules Blatant plagiarism of another persons team, in the eye of the game runner, is punishable by expulsion and a 5 year ban on entering the competition. Keeping alive another persons pick against the picks will to benefit in this game is also against the rules. Murdering your chosen "celebrities" is both against the rules and illegal regardless of willing participation. (not to mention gives us a bad name) If assisted euthanasia becomes legal in the future, contestants in this dead pool are forbidden from encouraging/discouraging/or actively taking part in their or another contestants picks decision regarding this or being an active participant in their euthanasia. This rules apply to assisted euthanasia in other countries of picks. Similarly encouraging picks to commit suicide is prohibited. 5) The FFBI Rules Celebrities are disqualified if the game runner determines them to be famous for being ill. This rule has been significantly tightened in recent years. And now bans picks who are: Famous due to impending death (hit by a car, stabbed etc etc you get the idea) Famous due to illness, with not even a minor fame to claim of their own making resulting from that illness (mother with 6 months to live, man with rare genetic disorder) An awareness and activism exception exists (see the filter) If your unsure whether you're pick qualifies for the Hares Death Pool your in look; they're subject to a rigorous FFBI filter that you can use to check them before submitting them - so there's really new excuse. From midday on the 31st December the host has the right to outright reject a team that appears to contain so many FFBI picks it would fall short of a 25 strong field once they are removed or allow it to run short without seeking clarification. 2014 Champion - Rotten Ali 12 Teams - Final Scoreboard 2015 Champion - Toast 16 Teams - Final Scoreboard 2016 Champion - Gcreptile 17 Teams - Final Scoreboard 2017 Champion - Grim Up North 24 Teams - Final Scoreboard 2018 Champion - Death Impends 30 Teams - Final Scoreboard 2019 Champion - John Key 43 Teams - Latest Scoreboard 2020 Champion - ????? 43 Teams

Final point of clarity. Updated OP to stress you need to tell me who you are, i need a team name/forum alias for the team itself, unless you eventually want your real name published on the masterlist when posted here - if so you're an idiot. SEND YOUR TEAM TO haresdeathpool @ gmail .com (without the spaces) PLEASE - DO NOT PM, POST IN THREAD OR PIGEON IT - EMAIL IT.  Either use a team name or use your forum name as the title - i.e 'Not Deathray - Hares 2021 Entry' or 'Carker's Convention - Hares 2021 Entry'  My DDP teams are already in, and my . If your concerned about sharing your real name with a scallywag like me you can submit using https://www.guerrillamail.com/inbox It's easier on the eyes if you unscramble the address though.

@An Fear Beag @Grim Up North For whichever one of you wants to handle the regular scoring throughout next year I hope this is a reasonable solution. I'll take team entries and parse a master list, you score, remind me next December and I can do the same (Grim, you have my real email address which may be easier to get hold of me on than the Hare's burner so nab me when I enter a DDP team if I forget )

To reassure people about long term of this, a number of people (An Fear Beag and Grim Up North to name too) have expressed an interest in scoring this, but no interest in dealing with teams. This is the simplest way to get round that. For the uninitiated I can't take them via PM as I will inevitably have this account suspended at some point (when Paul gets back from holiday?) Should that happen whoever wants the information to place here on New Years Day to forward to the board can do an email to the same address as entries. I did look at setting up a simple webpage to deal with this pool and the current conundrum but I don't know how/have the inclination.

There's normal something off in the head with folk like that who can't hold on to partners.

I'm sorry but it genuinely amazes me he's (reportedly) still alive. He'll be 100 in June for cripes sake. Nobody who smoked for as many years as him should live that long.

The doc referred to on the previous page is 'You Can' t Fire Me, I'm Famous' Bill Tarney on original stint. She could be a cow. She would help me as long as she could see I was helping myself. Bill Tarney on her return... Quite a lot of us felt like I did, especially the older cast, oh boy this is going to be a testing time... I'm pretty lucky I didn't need make up. What can you do with a face like this. People like Julie had to be in an hour and hour and a half before me. So you want to try that for like a ten week stretch that's hard.

Pain in the (rude word for backside).

His Startiger was updated in late July with a bought autograph, forums and actual addresses all seem to be behind a membership wall I can't be bothered to penetrate

I understand. The vows were serious but I totally understand I've likely squandered any chance of them being believed. I didn't realise the value of this place til after I ruined things. I guess.

Is this fanmail.biz. If so the personal named address for Johnny Briggs inbox at the talent agency has been reported as RTS but there's a general address for his talent agency?.

Oh but I work at a warehouse with thousands of employees honest I left a workbook by the door for people to fill in.

Two weeks rather than to episodes. There's an interesting doc somewhere we're Bill Tarney says all the old guard knew she wouldn't last a minute under the newer much more 'film it move on to the next' style and harder workload due to her being 'a perfectionist' and a few other veiled indications she was a PITA. I think there was also references to physical health issues and stress issues related to fellow cast members selling stories on her.

She looks bad but she doesn't look ill at all.

Yeah but I'm pretty sure bodged plastic surgery isn't terminal in itself.

I wonder how many have come in so far anyway? @Grim Up North Has lockdown led to it being busier than last year?

Also a more long term note. Jack P Shepherd I 32 which means all being well he'll be 72 for the 100th anniversary, quite a realistic possibility of him celebrating both the 40th anniversary and the 120th should the show *touch wood* last that long.

Johnny Briggs and Eileen Derbyshire might be good shouts. Suspiciously absent from 60th documentaries (well maybe not that suspicious as lot of folk were missing) Two of the longest serving living actors to have actually left the show and hardly a sign. Also originally was talk of Emily droppingin for the 60th but nothing.

Clorox has been around recently so anyone willing to do the dirty might want to PM him/her/they.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how many accounts they ban I'll find a way. The common sense thing for the mods at this point is to unban my ip address, unban my primary account and allow me to return. In return I promise to solely post death and dead pool related content. No pornography, no swearing, no jibeing at other members and no flaming/trolling of the boards.... seems fair but I don't expect a response in favour. I'll stick solely to the Betty Driver and Hare's death pool threads and accept permanent pre-moderation if that is what it takes to be able to tip you off about frail looking soap stars again.

Before I'm banned again you have my blessing. All Grims asking you do is collate the teams, literally a case of being a mailbox for entries up until the end of December and copying rules to new thread. Post teams in new thread, Grims offered to do the adding up scores by looks of it next year. Oh and thanks for keeping this alive. We didn't use a spreadsheet most time I ran this that's by no means essential. That was a recent addition, a list of the picks in word with teams next to them suffices. Oh and I've PMed you.

Yo. Is it OK if I send a work pool with about 1000 teams on? I'm deffo not unemployed and bored, honestly. ......

@YoungWillz maybe your North of the border pal knows? You get this crap instead of Casualty, right?

Unfortunately that's not an option, medically teetotal...

Her character is a national treasure and you got to remember that's who most people see her as. Re the documentary. The news at the time definitely had her down as appearing for interviews, not just approached. This was in July, so something hapenned - though with Julie this could be she wasn't happy with the interview and backed out rather than ill health, it could be ill health.