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You may joke now, but you'll find out later that I was right... I'll bet one day in the future there will be a worldwide study on fluoride, and you'll see I was correct.

My opinion on Deceased Supercentenarians: - Li Ching Yuen, 256, Fake. No explanation needed. Unless Li Ching Yuen was a Greenlandic Shark... he did not live for 256 years. - James Olofintuyi, 174, Fake. Claimed to have a 29 year old son at the time of his death. - Dhaqabo Ebba, 163, Fake. Claimed to have a living 128 year old son at the time of his death. - Niels Paulsen, 160, Fake. Claimed to have a 9 year old son at the time of his death. I found the same exact story of a 160 year old man claiming to have a 9 year old son in a satire-themed comic book. Idea was obviously stolen, and tried to pass off as real. - Mbah Gotho, 146, Fake. This man was not 146. His birthday was Claimed to be 31 December 1870, which is a placeholder birthday. He likely didn't know when he was born, so a random date was chosen for him. I'm willing to bet he was probably born in the early 1900s decade, and was probably 108-114 when he died. Not 146. However, I will add that I think it is possible that Mbah Gotho was older than Israel Kristal at the time of his death in April 2017, and may have been the World's Oldest Living Man at the time of his death. BUT, if he was older than Kristal, it was likely less than a year older. Should be investigated further. - John Smith, 137, nearly 100% fake. A study was done on Chief John Smith which concluded he was probably 96-99 when he died. He claimed to be 7, 8, 9, or 10 "when the stars fell". This is most likely referring to the Leonid Meteor Shower of 1833. This would place his birth year between 1823 and 1826 instead of his claimed birth year of 1784. Meaning that when he died in 1922, he was either 96, 97, 98, or 99. However there is an odd twist to this story, which is why I did not list him as totally fake. Some researchers did a study after Smith died, and they discovered that there was another meteor shower that occurred in 1792. This would accurately place Smith's birth year in 1784, thus making him 137 when he died. The strange thing was, is that it seems he had inside knowledge of the 1792 meteor shower, prior to the researchers who did the study. My guess is that he had likely heard of the 1792 meteor shower from his father, and mixed it up with his own memory. Or, it was just a big coincidence. If Smith really made it to 137, that means that at the time of his death, he would have broken Boomgaard's record by 27 years. A statistical near impossibility. I consulted a gerontologist, and according to the mathematical formula, the odds of Smith achieving the age of 137, would have a lower bound of 1 in 134 trillion. I wouldn't exactly call him a hoax yet, as rarer things have occurred, but unfortunately it's pretty safe to say he did not reach 137. - Koku Istambulova, 129, She honestly does have some decent documentation but it's not enough to prove her age. I'm going to say fake, because she was a very unhappy person in life. Optimists live longer. I highly doubt a negative person would have made it to 129. - Maria Do Cormo Geronimo, 129, Honestly Mrs. Geronimo does seriously surprise me. She doesn't have any birth records, but she does have vivid memories of being a Brazilian slave. Since she has memories of slavery in Brazil, she had to have been at least 3 years old, making her at least 115 when she died. She even had whip marks on her back from being a slave. She may not have been 129 when she died, but I'm going to guess she was between 115 and 122 with 120 being the most likely age. - Johanna Mazibuko, 128, ??? - Luo Meizhen, 127, researchers found that Mrs. Meizhen was more like 115 when she died. Not 127. I'm going to go with the researchers on this one. She indeed did have signs of extreme old age, commonly found in Supercentenarians. - Benito Martinez Abrogan, 126, This case was very unusual. Mr. Abrogan immigrated from Haiti to Cuba in the 1920s but his age wasn't given. He had a very healthy and fit lifestyle and ate lots of fresh rice and vegetables. Mr. Abrogan also ate lots of cassava, which has been proven to slow down the shortening of telomeres, and lower blood pressure. He never owned a car, but walked everywhere he went; another factor into supporting his longevity. He was nicknamed the Aeroplane for the speed at which he worked, while helping construct the highway across Cuba. This is a good sign, as he would've had to have been extremely healthy to outspeed all the other workers, as his boss and co-workers claimed. He doesn't have any documentation, nor does he show any signs of extreme aging, but the Cuban government and Cuban medical experts say that he was at least 119 years old at the time of his death. They claimed to have run tests on him, and said he was indeed between 119 and 126 when he died, however there is no proof of this. Again, his claimed birthdate is June, 19, 1880, which is a placeholder birthdate. He likely didn't know his actual birthdate, so he guessed. However, because of his extremely healthy lifestyle, I'm willing to guess he was born in the late 1880s, and was thus between 116 and 120 when he died. He died between many of the longest lived men on the planet, McMorran, Chuganji, Moll, and Del Toro. I think it's entirely possible that this man was indeed born in 1887 (not his claimed birthdate of 1880), and was actually 119 when he died. Extremely unlikely, but possible. - Jackson Pollock, 126, I personally found evidence that if Mr. Pollock was born the year he claimed to have been born, his father would have been only 5 years old at the time of his son's birth. His age was probably exaggerated by 20 years, and he was more likely 106, and not 126. One thing is for sure though, he was not born in the year he claimed to be born. - Francisca Susano, 124, I have spent a decent amount of time researching Mrs. Susano's case and I have never found any hard evidence against her. However, that doesn't mean there isn't any. Her eldest child would've been over 100 at the time of her death, strengthening her case a bit. But first we have to prove her child's age wasn't exaggerated. I think she is definitely worth considering. - Juana Chox Yac, 123, Doubtful - Hava Rexa, 123, Doubtful - Belle Rhymes, 123, She also claims to have suffered a constant asthma attack for 99 years straight. Willing to bet the whole story is made up. I sincerely doubt that a human could survive a constant asthma attack that lasted nearly a century, and I doubt this woman lived to be 123. - Sudhakar Chaturvedi, 122, I really don't know what to think of Mr. Chaturvedi's case. He has lots of documentation dating back to the early 1900s, but that doesn't mean he was born when he said he was. - Zhang Daoling, 122, This man claimed to have lived 122 years, and died in the year 156 A.D. I highly doubt he lived this long, back in times where the average lifespan was 35-50 years of age. I'm going to go with fake. He was probably a mythical figure. - Magomed Labazanov, 122, Doubtful. This man claimed to have still been able to walk at 121??? Very unlikely. He does appear to be very old from the videos shown on YouTube. Probably more like 112 when he died and not 122. He honestly does have the appearance of someone who is over 100, but saying that he is 122 is a massive stretch. - Celino Villanueva, 121, Fake. Mr. Villanueva does not show any signs of extreme old age associated with Supercentenarians. If I had to guess his age, I would have said he was about 95 or 96, not 121. His age was probably either exaggerated by 20 years, making him 101 when he died, and not 121, or his identity was mixed up with his father's, making him less than 105. - Jesus Castillo Rangel, 121, Seriously? 121??? This guy looks more like 81 rather than 121. I doubt he was even in his 90s. - Shigechiyo Izumi, 120, We could talk about Izumi's case all day... I am going to go with possibly on this one. Now if you're not familiar with the Izumi case, Shigechiyo Izumi claimed to have been born in 1865 and died at the age of 120 in 1986 (before celebrating his 121st birthday). Now researchers found another Shigechiyo Izumi born in 1880, but with no death certificate. It's possible that our 1865 Izumi got mixed up with our 1880 Izumi and our 1865 Izumi was only 105 when he died. However our 1865 born Izumi claimed to have been given up for adoption in 1871, aged 6, and started work at a sugar mill in 1872, aged 7. This right here would prove that he was not mixed up with our 1880 Izumi, and thus was the age claimed. BUT, there are several problems with this case. One, is that our 1865 born Izumi could be lying. And two, is that there is no documentation or definite proof that he was adopted in 1871 or started work in 1872. I think that a professional researcher, should try and locate some documentation of a Shigechiyo Izumi being adopted in 1871, or work papers of a Shigechiyo Izumi from 1872. Unfortunately, most documentation like this was not common in the 1870s. We may never know the real truth about Izumi. I will add, that the pictures of Izumi aged 120 in 1986, do indeed look like a 120 year old man. He shows all the characteristic signs of extreme aging, commonly found in a Supercentenarian. The whites of his eyes even have signs of extreme old age, and appear darkened in color. Something I've never seen in a person under 110. - Du Pinhua, 120, I have not researched her case enough but it seems like Mrs. Pinhua was indeed 120 when she died. She has all the signs of extreme aging, and elderly people of her village say she was a middle aged woman when they were kids. An 80 year old man who had known her all his life, said he remembers her being aged 40, when he was born. 80 + 40 = 120, thus supporting Pinhua's age. Unfortunately her case seemed to run into a lot of dead ends, and I can't find much more evidence than that of her being 120. I'd still say she has the strongest case of everyone on this list though. - Rebecca Lanier, 120, looks more like 80. Fake. This woman shows no signs of extreme aging. - Ignacio Aguilar Jaramillo, 119, I would have to go with... fake. Apparently he could still dance at age 115? A very unusual feat for a Supercentenarian. I don't believe he was 119. - Kamu Tongnumchokdee, 119, Dude looks like he's barely 89. Apparently he could still walk, and carry out farm work at the age of 119. The oldest that I would believe he was, is probably 105, but no more than that. His age was probably either exaggerated by 20 or 30 years, and he was probably either 89 or 99 when he died. Not 119. - Oh Yoon-ah, 118, Doubtful. This woman claims to have still gotten on the exercise Bike for 20 minutes a day at age 115. Not completely impossible as Maurice Floquet achieved this at 111, and as female SCs are in better shape than male SCs, it's not entirely impossible, but very unlikely. I'd compare this to being struck by lightning 3 times, and meeting someone who was struck by lightning 4 times. Not completely impossible, but hard to believe and verify. - Goddard Diamond, 118, Now this case is a weird one. Mr. Goddard Diamond claimed to have been born in 1796 and died in 1914. Mr. Diamond was featured in an interview in 1896 where he claimed to be 100 years old. He appears in good shape, and he claimed to have had a routine where he applied olive oil to his body every day. There is also pictures of Mr. Diamond from 1861 at the claimed age of 65, where he indeed looks like a 65 year old man. There is early life documentation of Mr. Diamond supporting a 1796 birthdate, and thus making him 118 when he died. But, there is also documentation supporting a 1805 birthdate, and making him only 109 when he died. I honestly don't know what to think of this case. I think this would take a professional researcher to figure out, and find more documentation of either him being born in 1796 and being the oldest man ever, or being born in 1805 and not even being a Supercentenarian. One piece of evidence that strengthens his case, is the 1861 documentation and picture of him being 65. If the 1805 birthdate us accurate, I highly doubt a 56 year old man would look this old. But again, if he was 118 when he died, the probability of a man surpassing Boomgaard by 8 years of close to nothing. It is worth noting however that Calment passed the female record by 9. - Jintaro Tanaka, 118, Possible but unlikely. Researchers at the Calment Project actually verified this man to have died in 1997 on his 118th birthday. He had all the nesscessary documentation, and the statistics fit perfectly in line with his life being around the same time as Calment, Knauss, and Mortensen. He would even close the gap of the oldest living man, before Mortensen. However, there was one little problem. The same researchers at the Calment Project later found that another Jintaro Tanaka had died in the 1960s, and the birthplace and wife's name matched exactly. It IS possible that there was another Jintaro Tanaka also born in 1879, who had the same wife's name, but what are the chances? I'm going to go with Doubtful, but I wouldn't call him fake just yet. - Teriihaeretei Taaroa, 117, I found documentation from an ancestry website sourcing that Mr. Taaroa was actually 104 when he died, and not 117. Now unless this incredibly accurate ancestry website is wrong... - Andrew Hatch, 117, Fake. Mr. Hatch claimed to have lived between 1898 and 2015, BUT he does not appear in a census until 1930, as a baby. This means he was probably only 85 at the time of his death. The only way he could have actually been 117, is if somehow he avoided all census recordings, all forms of documentation, and lied about his age stating that he was under a year old, when he in fact was 32. Extremely unlikely, considering the time period he lived in. - Juan Pablo Villalobos Maradiaga, 116, I did a heavy amount of research on his case, and found absolutely nothing to disprove Mr. Maradiaga's age. Although, I will say I didn't find much evidence to begin with. He did indeed have a son who would've been 95 at the time of his death, meaning that he couldn't have been much younger than the age claimed. Some researchers found a Juan Pablo Villalobos Maradiaga born 5 years after our 116 year old Juan Pablo. Unfortunately though, the birthplace is wrong. That leaves us with 2 possibilities. Most likely situation, is that Juan Pablo was only 111 when he died, and the census made a mistake on his birthplace. Even so, he would have still been the 1st Supercentenarian of El Salvador, and oldest man recorded of El Salvador, until Santos Rivas narrowly outlived him in 2023. The second situation, is that the census is of a different Juan Pablo Villalobos Maradiaga meaning that his age is still unknown, and he may have indeed been older than Kimura when he died. I'm going to go with 111, but I won't exactly rule out 116 yet. - Bernando Lapollo, 114, FAKE! This guy doesn't stop changing his story. Researchers did a study and found out he was more likely in his 100s when he died. Not 114. Anyway let me know what you think...

Seriously. I read an article that talked about how lab rats were poisoned after drinking fluoride. There's also a book called "Man's Higher Consiousness" which also states that drinking unfluoridated water prolongs life.

Water from plastic bottles is healthier than tap water, because tap water contains fluoride. Fluoride is very bad for the body.

I guess you summed it up better than I could...

Honestly I agree with that. Especially since most of the food we eat nowadays has "Bioengineered Food Ingredients". I think the only way we'll surpass Calment's age is through some miraculous scientific breakthrough. May not happen till like the year 2300 though. Earliest I'd say is like 2080, but I think it will happen. Unfortunately not soon.

Just wanted to share with you all, an interesting thought I had. If you go back and look at a chronological list of the oldest person ever recorded, you will see that Mr. Geert Adriaans Boomgaard was the first person to make it to 110. Since then, most of the titleholders have been women, and no one has even come close to challenging the record since Jeanne Calment. It's been nearly 26 years and no new titleholders. If a man were to break the record today, as Boomgaard did when he turned 110 back in 1898, this man would be the first man to reach the ages of 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, and 122. An incredible achievement that I don't even have words for. I want to know what you think. Will some future man break Calment's record, and we will once again have a male titleholder as the oldest person ever recorded? Will we ever even see another man in the top 10 oldest ever?

My Opinion on unvalidated SCs: - Ese Gebelek, 128, claims to have 400 grandchildren??? That's not the only thing I doubt. Looks more like 88 rather than 128. Frail. - Swami Sivananda, 126, probably fake. Looks frail, but can still walk. He has had an incredibly healthy lifestyle, diet, and has lead a very fit lifestyle. I think there's a miniscule chance he's legit, but I highly doubt it. Unless he beat the 1 in a trillion odds, combined with a super healthy lifestyle... I doubt he's 126. - Manuel Garcia Hernandez, 126, fake. Looks 96, not 126. I'd be surprised if he's even 100. Frail, but mobile. - Marcelino Abad Tolentino, 123, fake. Documentary done on him at 119, and he could still do farm work. Probably 93. Small, but not frail. - Maria Gomes dos Reis, 122, if she was 116 I'd say her case was strong, but 122 is very hard to believe. Claims to have documentation, but I haven't seen anything yet. I'd say plausible, but very unlikely. Still, I wouldn't call her fake yet. - Andrelino Vieira da Silva, 122, more like 72. He's 122, but only if he's celebrating his birthday every 7 months. Probably mixed up with his grandfather. I'd be dumbfounded if this guy is even 100. Mobile. - Sebastiao Batista dos Santos, 121, he SOUNDS like he's the age claimed, but that'd where it ends. Probably more like 81 or 91 rather than 121. I doubt a 121 year old man could be that mobile. - Batuli Lamichhane, 120, Strongest case for someone over 118 on the gerontology fandom site. Has lots of documentation and a 1934 census record. She's the age claimed, I'd say. I talked to her great-grandson on Facebook. Has become very frail these past 3 or so years. - Zhang Meiyu, 117, likely fraudster. - Amelia Macoo, 117, also likely a fraudster. - Rosa Velandia, 116, I did some research on this case and I seemed to run into a lot of dead ends. Didn't find any evidence against her though. Should be investigated by professionals in my opinion. Might actually be 116. - Vicente Landaeta, 116, another Venezuelan claimaint??? This guy looks more like 76 than 116. I don't even think he's 95. Probably a fraudster. - Francisca Conceicao, 115, looks the age claimed. Not enough proof. However she could walk unassisted at 113, so I doubt she's the age claimed. Still possible though, as other SCs could walk unassisted at 113. Unlikely but possible. - Jose Flores Flores, 115, I've never seen any evidence against his case, but 115 almost 116 is very advanced for a male. Apparently, on 31st of December 2022 he was doing fine. I tried messaging his son on Facebook with no reply. - Anonymous Male, 115, considered "plausible" by several gerontologists. Need more documentation. Looks very frail. - Elias Chavez Alvarez, 114, the nursing home he lives at says he's 114, but his relatives claim he's only in his 90s. Has memories of the Mexican War from 1910-1920. I'm stumped on this case, especially since several sources cite that he has no family, but I think it's still an open investigation. Looks extremely frail. - Seliman Bandang, 113, Looks too young to be an SC, but you never know. Looks can be deceiving. Needs more proof, and real proof too, not some "Malaysian Book of Records". Can walk on his own, but uses a cane/wheelchair. - Otilio Dominguez Santos, 112, I'd bet dimes to dollars he's 112. Tons of documentation, but unfortunately not enough to meet standards. Talked to his great granddaughter on Facebook and he is doing fine. Looks frail, but still seems healthy. Lots of life left in his eyes. Could be the next Jiroemon Kimura if he gets validated. - Lorenzo Cayunao Millan, 112, keeps changing his birthdate. First it was May 15th, now June 17th. Considering the dates of birth of his older brother and younger sister, there's no way he could've been born when he claims he was. More likely 102, and not 112. Doesn't appear to have signs of extreme aging. - Carlos Julio Rincon Garzon, 112, researchers found he was more likely born in 1915 and not 1910. Looks strong still. Who do you think of this list is the most likely to be true? I'd have to go with Otilio Dominguez Santos, first, followed by Batuli Lamichhane, Jose Flores Flores, Rosa Velandia, and the Anonymous man from Brazil. I highly doubt any of the others are the age claimed. Maria Gomes dos Reis and Seliman Bandang have a slight chance, but nowhere near the 5 that I mentioned above. Just my thoughts. Let's hear yours...

Diego can like whatever post he wants to like. What does it matter to you? @Predictor you having a crummy day, and taking it out on him? I don't recall seeing in the guidelines that it's against the rules to like a post from years ago. If that's the kind of thing that upsets you, you must either be spoiled rotten, or have some serious issues you need to work on. Yikes.

@LafaucheuseI know it was a joke. I was playing along with it.

@Lafaucheusewhy do you doubt it?

Marcelino Abad Tolentino's claimed 123rd birthday confirmed. Unfortunately he is now wheelchair-bound. https://www.gob.pe/institucion/pension65/noticias/738924-pension-65-el-usuario-mas-longevo-del-pais-cumplio-123-anos

I feel Lamichhane is 119 because there have been January 1934 census records proving her age. And I do feel Mr. Flores Flores is also the age claimed, but we'll know for sure if these early life documents surface. Personally, I have not seen any evidence AGAINST these cases, but I'm not saying it's not out there. But you are right I've seen so much fakery its hard to know these days. There are families who claim to have an SC relative when their inner motivation is just to be on the big screen for having a relative who's WOLP. No disrespect toward Bandang of course, but he does not look nearly 113 and I'm not entirely sure of being open to the possibility he's the age claimed. He himself might believe he's turning 113 this month, but his family knows the truth and they might be going along with his claim in order to get some media attention. Not saying he's fake, but not saying he's got a high chance of being his age though. And I cannot believe Zak keeps posting his videos on here! Zak has some good theories about Calment but my god he needs to start posting more evidence rather than just the same thing over and over again I've watched his Calment theory videos and they go in one big long Loop. He has no new debatable evidence. I spoke with Zak a while back, and I told him I was behind him 100% on his signature theory and a couple of other things, but I told him he needs to explain things more simply rather than to just use all this circular logic to keep trying to convince people of the same thing over and over again. Personally I doubt Calment was 122, and I have a very unique perspective on how I came about to that conclusion. This is off topic but I'd like to add this here since it's been on my mind for a while. I'm VERY glad that Robert Young has been banned from the110club! Cheers! It's a lot more pleasant on there without some condescending jerk talking down to everyone and treating people like their some piece of filth lying in a gutter. If he's gonna act like that then he absolutely deserves to be banned and fired as president from LQ. And to think that he had the audacity to go on the global supercentenarian forum and spy on us, and to badger people for information is beyond me. Yeah, we've got a 2nd pandemic on the move and it's called "Robert Young's tyranny". I'll bet dimes to dollars that I could get on any subway and pick any random person and they'd be a lot less arrogant than Young. I mean my god, who does he think we are? Some lab rats that he can just pick on whenever he needs to get out the anger from his day? Dude needs to grow up and act like a 48 year old gerontologist instead of acting like an 8 year old who's been spoiled rotten by mommy and daddy. And just to let you know I've gotten some hell on the global supercentenarian forum myself, it's slowly turning into the110club with witchy members being condescending for making the slightest little mistake or talking slightly off topic. I personally find it healthy to go off on tangents, because that's how you discover more knowledge. Just my two cents. Peace

@arghton What do you mean Mrs. Batuli Lamichhane looks closer to 40 than 120? I have done some deep digging here while I've been left "in the dark" and I have found a substantial amount of evidence that assures Mrs. Lamichhane was indeed born on March 23, 1903 and is currently 119 years & 359 days old. I'm not saying this evidence is 100% guaranteed but it definitely supports her case. I spoke with her great grandson on Facebook and he has submitted her documentation to Guinness World Records and they are reviewing her case right now as we speak. If this is true, this means that Mrs. Randon would have never been the WOLP. As for Mr. Jose Flores-Flores I spoke with the news station who interviewed him and they claim to have early life documents proving his age, and 1948 military records that also support his age. They told me that his family cannot pay the fee to apply to get his documentation checked. I told the news station that to apply for the WOLM title is completely free. They wrote back and told me they have contacted his family. I also wrote a personal message to his son explaining the GRG, LAS, and LQ. Haven't heard a response. If these early life documents actually exist Mr. Flores-Flores would be the WOLM, and the 2nd oldest man ever documented after Jiroemon Kimura. He would also be the 3rd oldest living person. I have also "discovered" the case of an Ethiopian man claiming to he 170 years of age. Obviously his claim to fame is false, but I have done some deep digging and have been in contact with the news station from his hometown. Apparently his oldest son is 93. While this man is NOT the age claimed, if his son is REALLY 93 and has not inflated his age, this man is definitely a Supercentenarian and should go down in our record books. If his son is 93, he's probably around 110-112 but definitely not over 117. I'll update what comes from this.

I'm very pleased to see a new photo of Mr. Mora. He does look frail, but there's lots of life left in those eyes.