Monoclinic
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Blimey! That's a bit of a shocker.
What are the odds on BC Alum stating categorically that this is the most significant death of 2010?
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Happy birthday Vaagie!
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The search function is the dog's bollocks. The search function is bollocks.Previous futile conversation abridged. Subsequent futile conversation padded out to ubertedium.
Granted, the way you use the search function does list the posts individually, which if you are searching for a random obscure peleb then it's not going to have many hits. Trying Clive Dunn however is a different story. Which is why I like to see the threads first as it might jog my memory when trying to find a specific post and can eliminate some of the hits if I don't think what I'm looking for will be in that thread.
After performing the search there is a need to wade through heaps and heaps of our crap
So from the top, I pick a topic...
Entering in the same search in the first thread I then meet Mr Flood control...
And that is why I find problems with the function.
Everyone else can wake up now.
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This has probably already been posted but you know how useless the search facility is...Christopher Cazenove fights for life after collapsing at home
I beg to differ; the search facility is fine if people would just take a few seconds to learn how to use it. Click 'search', then 'more search options' below it, type '+christopher +cazenove' in the resulting field, and you'll discover that you are the first person to ever mention him in 140,000+ posts.
The only drawback is that it doesn't recognise three-letter words, so tracking down posts about the likes of Liz Smith is a bit of a problem.
Another drawback is you cannot instantly do another search. So when you call up all the possible threads that contain the name you search (which in turn assumes that all names have been spelt correctly, no aliases used or one line puns with no reference to said name) you can't then search within that thread for your name unless you twiddle your thumbs for 30 seconds. Then going back to the original list you have to click several times to fool the computer.
Cutting the waffle, I'm with VT, the programming isn't great re. timing. Then beggars and choosers and all that.
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My top ten list for 2027:1. Aral Sea
2. Mullets
3. Fossil Fuels
4. Brillo Pads
5. Giant Pandas
6. United States
7. Jupiter
8. BBC
9. Numeracy
Oh, how I know an amateur when I see one.
Banshees, I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance that I should have been by any epaulet I could have worn.
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My top ten list for 2027:
1. Aral Sea
2. Mullets
3. Fossil Fuels
4. Brillo Pads
5. Giant Pandas
6. United States
7. Jupiter
8. BBC
9. Numeracy
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Harry Redknapp was involved in a car crash whilst manager of Bournemouth but didn't die. The Bournemouth MD Brian Tiler and four others were killed however.Brian Tiler, that's the one I was thinking of. Is that - the accident - where Harry gets his twitches from?
Alan Ball Sr. died in a car crash, but I don't think he was managing a football league club at the time. Herbert Chapman died whilst still in charge, but that was aeons ago - as was Reg Freeman, the guy who snuffed it at Sheffield United.
This'll teach me not to keep my Rothmans/Sky Sports Yearbook for questions like this. Billy Ayre died young too, but I think he was an assitant manager at his death.
Don't know about the twitch but he did lose his sense of smell which facilitated his move back to Portsmouth. It does however give me the occasion to post this little ditty. We won awards for our singing don't you know.
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I seriously doubt he did this! Too much circumstantial evidence.I'm sure that he is a saint! Let him move to your house.
I would welcome him into my house. How can anyone be found guilty without a jury?
* There's no such thing as saints.
Are you a Walsall fan?
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Hard to believe, but we've sunk to a new low - our 'revolting' fans' protest saw the game against Eastbourne Borough abandoned after 75 minutes...... while we were leading !
So we'll probably get docked another 4,500 points and be kicked down another three leagues. None of which will matter if we don't pay the Welsh enemy the five billion pounds we allegedly owe them within the next 24 hours.
Ah well, it's only a funny old game.
Do you want to change your name from 'harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy' ?
May as well. I'll go for thedeathlistmemberwhousedtobeknownasharrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy please.
Congratulations on officially having the longest in deathlist history! Fnar, Fnar. Calling the ghosts of the McWhirter twins... give that man a medal!
PS: Just this once, I've added a bit of sans. I won't be making a habit of it.
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Happy birthday Dead to Writes!
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For a start, something that's not going to start a debate amongst 16 year olds about shagging corpses. Secondly, something that is actually going to stand her in good stead for her adult life, something that might be of some use to her when she enters the workplace. Now, unless she's going to get a job doing those weird pervy movies, I can't see how necrophilia is going to fit into her CV. Thirdly, this is another good excuse for me to have a rant about the shower of shit that passes for the school that she attends. Fourthly, I'd like them to reinforce the morals and decency I have taught her - I do not expect my 16 year old (and a very immature 16 year old at that, she has some learning difficulties) to come home telling me how she 'learnt all about necrophilia today'. Fifthly, I'd like them to sort out their crappy, inaccurate computerised attendance record - she gets letters home accusing her of skiving when she's been sat taking exams in their hall, for fuck's sake. Sixthly, the headmaster is a twat. Seventhly, I realise I have gone slightly off on a tangent. Eightly, I think I should go to bed
You have my sincere support. How can one expect to take HaviSHAM seriously with such gratuitous use of comic sans. I hope you have managed to tell your daughter that anything written in that font should be disregarded as bollocks.
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As I was flicking through the available radio channels on my long drive France bound this morning to give a naff seminar for which I was ill prepared I could have thought of worse things than dying. This malaise was promptly
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I knew that someday I was gonna dieAnd I knew before I died
Two things would happen to me
That number one: I would regret my entire life
And number two: I would want to live my life over again
I have crawled so far sidewaysI recognise dim traces of creation
I wanna die, die in the summertime, I wanna die
The court has come.The court of the Nations and into the courtroom will come
the martyrs of Majdanek and Oswiecim.
From the ditch of Kerch the dead will rise,
they will arise from the graves,
they will arise from flames bringing with them the acrid smoke
and the deathly odour of scorched and martyred Europe.
And the children they too will come, stern and merciless.
The butchers had no pity on them.
Now the victims will judge the butchers.
Today the tear of the child is the judge.
The grief of the mother is the prosecutor.
Ahhh Richey Edwards, now he always knew how to pen a cheery number.
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All I can say is that the evolution of mankind cannot be set into motion without cooperation, it can only come to life with force.Without cooperation, force is essential. The human perception is that force itself deprives freedom.
If there were an incentive, some kind of bribe that could motivate humanity to cooperate that would be a step forward.
Unfortunately, I agree with Mr.G. We are our worst enemy. Can we rise above expectations? Hm, I don't know about that.
Assuming that we are in deep shit, which is probably .. very .. a little exaggerated,
I'll say that we need something revolutionary to take place in order for us to be different.
What exactly? I don't know, you tell me.
For a moment - close your eyes and picture planet earth in your mind.
View intelligent life on planet earth as a project.
Tell yourself about the most intelligent species of that planet.
Know they are brainwashed, know they cannot control themselves nor their desires.
Understand they are insensitive to life around them.
Understand they have no regard for themselves.
Understand some of them are incapable of going to the next level.
Understand how many years it will take to change them.
Open your eyes and know that it's beyond you.
Wow, I never knew dolphins were that self centered.
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Mono - guess this is much of the problem - I'm an engineer - I sort of understand systems fairly well - but that's too deep into theory for me. (By the way found Le Chatalie was spelt Le Chatelie) Never that good at chemistry - but I watched the Al Gore film and got well exercised by the pools of melt water boring down into the ice sheet and removing the frictional effect of it staying land bound.Cork out of the bottle and all that.
Really don't see that it takes much to set the process going. At a constant 10m slippage a year, the 800km "trip" of the South Pole Ice Station towards the sea would take 80,000 years. I think it's speed would be exponential towards the end until it's very wet.
Just looked it up and it is Le Chatelier (Henry Louis). Mea culpa, I'm just always mindful about an additional e when there is a chat involved. In french things are m or f except as far as the cat is concerned in my book as it's too risky. Even if you know someone's cat to be female, it's always best to ask about the "chat" rather than the "chatte". Unless you really want to know how their cunt is.
I too have wondered why the only salt we can have for the roads has to come from Cheshire. Seems like they have an exclusivity deal. A similar discussion about salt supplies arose here recently too aswell as marooned drivers. Ill preparation is the expertise of the bureaucrat.
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Congratulations and enjoy! Though the choice of names are beautiful they do appear to be a little less octopussy than I'd imagined. I hope all goes fine in the days and weeks to come!
Yes LG I too am intrigued by these stories of induction and how it just happens to be the youngest (last) child. As in once you go through that you make sure you never have the chance it should happen again!
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Been meaning to do my own sums on a few of these climate change ideas. (Still working on it)I'll start with the rise of sea levels - there is only so much ice - lets say (looking at only three areas) all of it melts at the South Pole and on Greenland (most of the ice at the North Pole is floating and won't raise the sea level by much)
{The ice shelves which used to extend roughly 3,900 square miles (10,000 km²) over the Weddell Sea had completely disappeared by 2002.
Nearly all of Antarctica is covered by an ice sheet that is, on average, at least 1.6 kilometres thick. Antarctica contains 90% of the world's ice and more than 70% of its fresh water. If all the land-ice covering Antarctica were to melt — around 30 million cubic kilometres of ice — the seas would rise by over 60 metres. This is, however, very unlikely within the next few centuries.}(Wiki)
Height of South pole = 2,835m
Depth of Ice at South Pole = about 2,700m
Thickness of ice across the South polar cap = Average of about 1,600m (could be as high as 2,160m)
Average Altitude 2,000 > 3,000 m.
Area of South Polar ice cap = 13,586,380 km2
Volume of ice = 21,738,208 km3 ( maybe even 30.1 million km3)
The bedrock in the center of Greenland has been pressed below sea level by the weight of the ice sheet. Thus, if the ice melted, much of central Greenland would be under water.
Since the 1950s, scientists have postulated that the ice sheet covering the country may actually conceal three separate island land masses that have been bridged by glaciers over the last geologic cooling period.
(If the Greenland ice sheet were to melt away completely, the world's sea level would rise by more than 7 m (23 ft) and Greenland would most likely become an archipelago.)
Highest point in Greenland 3,694m.
Lowest point in theoretic mid basin -300m.
Thickness of ice on Greenland = Average of about 1,500m (but could be as much as 2,000m)
Area of Greenland = 2,175,600 km2 (Pear's Cylopaedia ed. year 2000)
Area of Greenland = 2,166,086 km2 (Wikipaedia)
Area of Greenland under receding ice cap = 1,833,720 km2 (Pear's Cylopaedia ed. year 2000)
Area of Greenland under receding ice cap = 1,755,637 km2 (Wikipaedia)
Volume of ice = (1,500 x 1.7m km2) = 2,633,455 km3
The polar ice pack is thinning, and in many years there will be seasonal hole in the ozone layer. Reduction of the area of Arctic sea ice reduces the planet's average albedo, possibly resulting in global warming in a positive feedback mechanism Research shows that the Arctic may become ice free for the first time in human history between 2013 and 2040.
Thickness of Sea Ice about the North pole = Average about 1.5m
Area of Northern Sea Ice = 14,056,000 km2
Volume of ice = 21,084 km3
Total volume of ice (these 3 areas) = 24,392,747 km3
Total sea area = 7 tenths of the surface of the earth (70.8%) 361,132,000 km2
(Average depth = 3.2 km)
ice being 92% as dense as water.
Rise in sea level = 62.141 metres.
even worse, if all figures are on the high side then in the next few hundred years it could be 83.5m
LOL, bar the significant figures, although this rationale could be an overestimate as the icebergs etc that are 2/3 under water contribute to the current sea levels by the water they displace. Can I assign you some further work? Factor in glacial run off from mountainous regions and also the thermal expansion of water from rising temperatures and perhaps submit to Nature to see what happens!
Anyway, your calculations make me want to add another potential problem. Although you didn't show the final bit of your workings you suggest that the additional fresh water contribution will be around 2.11% (which you then used to calculate the new depth considering the density of ice). That would change the nutrients and salts available in sea water on which algae and plankton depend. I wonder if Le Chatalier's principle can overcome this?
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Do you know what really pisses me off? The sheer, unadulterated arrogance of the Scientific community who have sold certain sections of the Political movement the absolute horseshit argument that we can change the Earths climate.Planet Earth, over 4 billion years old ( some have said its much older) has seen Climate change so utterly catastrophic it would make the Haiti Earthquake seem like a bit of a kerfuffle.
I believe we can. We know enough about the evolution of our planet to know that it has evolved from a reducing atmosphere to one that is oxygen rich and able to support aerobic life. Perhaps biomimetics is the answer, can we try to repeat history? Increase photosynthesis and not only do we reduce CO2 but we can harvest solar energy and obtain biofuels or try to exploit the secondary effect, the splitting of water (hydrogen storage is one of the major problems of switching to hydrogen fuel cells). Can we recreate nature's blueprint artifically or do we have to dedicate more surface area to plants and algae, reversing man's trend to deforest great swathes of countryside. I find it's pretty arrogant of us to criticise the likes of Brazil and Indonesia for doing something the Europeans did long ago.
A multi trillion pound Worldwide industry in "Green" services and technology has sprouted up over the last 10 years and, despite plenty of evidence countering the belief that the Human race is the sole archeitect of its doom, we continue to be royally fucked up the arse with punitive taxation and legislation on the pretext that we can "Save the planet".This is something to address by way of statistics, which neither of us can do with Google alone. I do not know how many scientists are for and how many are against, perhaps you are more aware of this. I would hazard a bet that although there may be plenty of evidence to counter the belief as you state, there could be an equal or perhaps a more substantially larger body of evidence that anthropological effects have altered the balance more than in previous climate change episodes.
A classic piece of shite is the idea that we will all be driving hydrogen/Electric cars in years to come.Why?
Isnt the green ethos about saving energy per se? Why have roads festooned with cars that require electricity to run, which still has a cost to the environment however its generated, when you could have Electric buses, carrying up to 50 odd passengers per vehicle thus eliminating the need for 20 odd cars to be manufactured and run.
Is that not a "greener" solution?
A hydrogen fuel cell based car produces just water as a byproduct (incidently this is also a greenhouse gas), no CO2, Nox, SOx or particulate matter but as we are all well aware it needs optimising. We need a stop gap as our reserves are finite. Biofuels (from algae as opposed to controversial crops) could well be that stop gap. As the fuels are combusted CO2 is released which can be reassimulated by living biomass to produce more biofuel. All the while buying more time for a better way to harvest solar energy to be developed. Electricity generated by wind, tides, solar panels etc. have minimal effect on the environment, and not everyone likes travelling on public transport. I cannot remember who it was but there is one DL member who made a massive rant about public transport (apart from Windsor). We have become accustomed to our own private door to door service, so if we are happy to pay the price for this I don't see how a government could remove this liberty from us.
If we are doomed, and I think we will be at some point in the future, it will be soley down to overpopulation.One billion Chinese probably breathe out at least 3 billion litres of, diluted, carbon dioxide every couple of seconds.
Surely that is fucking up the Planet more than sporradically placed factories, cars, aircraft and the like.
I really dont understand why, IF, there is so much emphasis on Global warming being man made, no Government has had the gonads to legislate as to how many children people can have ( it may stop those parasitic baby machines in the process...)so that the stabilizing, if not the slow and gradual reduction of the worlds population will do more to "Save the Planet" than any other hair brained scheme doled out to the populace.
Ironically China did.
As somebody as intelligent as you obviously are, why cant you read?I have never stated that Global warming was or was not a reality.
I have merely stated that there is a whole plethora of scientific opinion out there that believes that we, the human race is either not or only partially responsible for the changes that are taking place.
Why does your opinion carry more weight than those that have a different opinion to yourselves? Why are the Scientists who have ventured an opposing view so obviously wrong?
I think this is more a case of human condition, as in we believe what we want to and it is difficult to change someone's beliefs without concrete evidence. You'd be hard pressed to convert an athiest to a religion even though God(s) may exist. You want to believe that GW isn't a problem hence most of your posts in this thread bring up the fact some people say it isn't a problem and that you are swayed to their camp. I believe that it is a problem and thus have the instinct to fall on the otherside of the divide. Neither of us have concrete evidence. We publish papers about the knowledge we have acquired and yes people can be proved wrong. It's exactly as Hein said, we have to keep updating the model. Things can be proved wrong not right but in the mean time a debate has to have more than one side for progress. You have to keep asking why.
Yeah, it is right that we all try and do something, even if it ends up in vain.How about rebuilding our sea defences? Building a network of canals around flood vunerable towns?
Despite all the doom and gloom fuck all has been done, nothing practical except for indroducing energy efficient light bulbs that are shit.
The sea defences would have to be pretty high if the predictions are to believed. As for domestic energy efficiency, there are far more things that have been introduced, better boilers, cavity insulation, hybrid cars, recycling (certain uk councils aren't as hot on that as some European counterparts I believe), campaigns to turn your heating down a few degrees, double glazing etc.
But enough of my unbelievable shite. Who the fuck do you think you are to assume the site is full of bollocks ?You may not like my opinions but at least have the fucking respect to take them on board and, if you can be arsed to respond, do it with reason and not with distain.
I thought I had used the conditional tense as much as possible in my post, ladened with words like I believe and IMHO. It was intended as a viewpoint piece. If it didn't come across that way then I am sorry for that but not for its content. I stand by my feeling however that science often gets derided, I also stand by my feeling that I think this site has lost a bit of "je ne sais quoi" and a bit of humour. That's my problem. It is after all a site to report celebrity deaths, something which isn't really in my list of interests. I guess at the moment it is doing exactly what it says on the tin and not a lot else.
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A lot of wank posts snipped. In the words of Alan Hansen, unbelievable.I'm not a climate change scientist but I am on the CO2 bandwagon and I am convinced that for your children's sake you shouldn't take that kind of attitude. We could all ultimately be responsible for the sufferings of our grand children. Is it not better to at least try to prevent something that may well be out of our control than to sit back and do nothing at all.
These are not equally likely outcomes, nor do they cover every eventuality but I'm trying a different approach to achieve understanding instead of harping on about science which seems to go down like a lead balloon around these parts. (I must have been blind, I used to hold the impression that this site was full of wisdom. Now it's just full of bollocks. Perhaps it always was, but its oxidised finish only reveals itself after the ennui sets in.)
SITUATION A - Climate change is real, we are all going to suffer
SITUATION B - Climate change is real, we will all survive
SITUATION C - Climate change is not real, we will all survive
Situation A is occuring, we do nothing - we suffer
Situation A is occuring, we react but it is not enough - we suffer
Situation A is occuring, we react and it is enough - we survive
Situation B is occuring, we do nothing - we survive
Situation B is occuring, we react but it is not enough - we survive and we are a little poorer (money can't buy etc...)
Situation B is occuring, we react and it is enough - we survive and we are a lot poorer (money can't buy etc...)
Situation C is occuring, we do nothing - we all survive
Situation C is occuring, we react but it is not enough - we survive and we are a little poorer (money can't buy etc...)
Situation C is occuring, we react and it is enough - we survive and we are a lot poorer (money can't buy etc...)
I am not happy to take the 1/9 chance (oversimplified, I know) that it is occuring and that we could suffer, yet chose to ignore it. Are you?
Imagine your child had an illness that in one ninth of cases results in death but you do not know if your child is in that ninth. The doctor proposes to do an operation which could potentially save them yet this operation causes much pain and suffering, however there is no risk of death. Do you run the risk that your child is not in the 1/9th or do you go ahead "just in case".
As for the UEA scandal, there are mavericks in all walks of life, science should be no exception. Some people are motivated by greed, glory, glamour, whatever. Just because a former polytechnic has fudged a lot of data does not make climate change a load of "billy bollocks". This is similar to those who claimed to have cloned a human in Asia but hadn't. The technology is available to us and undoubtedly human cloning will happen one day. Just because they lied doesn't make it impossible.
I believe we need to think in a more humanitarian fashion. Just because climate change is not really affecting you right now, your actions might be affecting someone else on the planet. Anthropological effects to the environment are world-wide, we need to think of those living in coastal areas, in Africa, in Norfolk. It's not their fault that where they live might be hardest hit.
IMHO you should think yourself lucky that science and engineering has progressed enough to develop V8 engines and to exploit the finite reserves of crude oil that arose from photosynthetic excesses all those eras ago.
There's a lot more where that came from but I think you've heard enough for now. Scientists, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.
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I got 8 because I re-thought the smoking answer, overruling the "social class" / "education" argument, owing to the UK prices I remember too well.
Based on UK prices I doubt people could afford to smoke much on a $20,000 salary compared to those on a $80,000 salary so they may as well just quit. The $20k translates to about £12.8k, not considering stoppages. So that's not going to be the ~45% of Belgium but perhaps 5 - 10% (???), I'll go for 7.5%, taking us to £11,840. According to these people the average price per packet is £6.13, so that's £2237.45 up in flames or just under a fifth of their salary (19%). No wonder 40 a dayer Dot Cotton has had the same wardrobe for 25 years!
And so Mathematics is why I changed my mind. History repeateth.
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I'm planning on living in a hotel someday. It's all I would ever need..
Wacko lived most of his latter years in a hotel whizzing around the corridors in a golf buggy, or so THAT documentary retold. I could see you banged up in a hotel somewhere. For some strange reason thinking about your plans has made me think of
.Anyway back to hotel deaths:
Robert Kennedy (in the kitchen with the revolver)
and the obligatory obscure Belgian.
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For those too concerned with the rugby to notice the football results:Carlisle 5-0 MK Dons
Harte 21
Robson 39
Duffy 63
Dobie 71
Anyinsah 74
Granted, we cleared two of their attacks off the line at 0-0, but one way traffic ensued by the middle of the second half.
Football? There was football being played today? No, I think you are quite mistaken. I find no evidence of any matches being played on the south coast or otherwise.
Bastards.
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Stem cells. Clive Dunn's stem cells. That is the elixir of eternal life.
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Right then, I'll spend the money on something else.....Spend it on a world map, like I just did. Always wanted one of these, and I've just ordered one. It's huge, about 6ft x 3ft, but it'll enable me to exercise my fantasies of global domination penchant for mapping the world's renewable energy industry in a nice visual way.
Is the paper from a renewable source? Is it recycled?
I hope you are going to put a nice pin in Belgium, annotated "material of the future". I could even send you a nice picture or TEM micrograph to go with it.
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