Charlotte's Controller

Bob Dole - not that I'm into voodoo bot 50% of death listers is tending on persuasive.

I would probably have started a new thread for that.

A month has passed, at the time of initial posting the Deaths per Million UK and US were equal, the difference now 1973 v 2059 our UK vaccination policy and drive has made a big difference. Our death count for covid still includes all those who have died within 28 days of a positive test. The UK may have numbers which are comparatively overstated. India on the same basis would have millions if they would not have counted deaths as heart failure and done the tests.

Excellent list, Elizabeth II still cool.

One more political comment, PPE the qualification obtained by many of the politicians from our best universities. A comment on the qualification, a degree to aid avoiding responsibility in public life without providing any education for doing the job. Their aim learning from the history of people who have failed before. People who succeed always make mistakes, those who don't take risks will never succeed. Some people aways f**f up. Judgement is generally with hindsight. Political juggling, ministers moved on a regular basis to remove the accumulation of shit.

I see that Boris has elevated some women to more prominent posts. I think he is already planning his excuses for failure. Watch this space.

So having started this off does anybody have anything good to say about the US? Some of their TV series look nice but I presume that is largely facade.

Used to have the occasional drink with Bruce Jones (Bruce Battersby) from Coronation Street down at my local, nice normal bloke bit of a drink problem but didn't we all back in the day when the funds allowed. Was also at some of Prefab Sprouts first gigs in Durham before they had learnt to play their instruments. Good times when the mixture of happy hour Guiness and Special Brew were welcome, 1982, 5 pints for three pounds, life was tough for a student then.

I'm not saying the UK is perfect, just that the US is much further from it. As with the UK we both can't find competent political leaders, those bothered with politics always have other agendas away from interests of the general population. There is a willingness to impose our culture on other countries. Other populations always believe that they can create annexes within our own country, we generally resent this. Religion is intolerant generally, I have a belief that religion takes the place of a value set for those strong enough not to have one. The US religion is money and resentment is present where it is not present, Religion seeks to create division given ultimate beliefs and aims, "We fight for." I would rather just make comment on observation. Many of the Americans I see appear focussed on a vision but poorly educated and following cult like behaviour. I probably need more exposure to the US political power brokers but those showing on the media appear woefully incompetent, Daddy's money, outdated attitudes. The UK is not much better.

It seems that he wasn't too disturbed about this in the past and so this is a big surprise to me. Perhaps it is the then and now comparison he is concerned about. No worries, he is a bigger dick now, unfortunately probably not as rich. Perhaps the woke brigade will get behind him, the album cover will disappear and so will his"Fame".

There appears to be a me too generation of footballers developing.

If you look at the worldwide numbers for infections and deaths (Worldometer) by their graphical representations you can see the waves in a graphical format for the world and individual countries. This update has been posted for those who are politically affiliated, in the media or numerically challanged. This may include the PM who struggles with the Sage updates. You can draw your own Venn diagrams.

Worldometer deaths per million stats UK and US at 20 and 21 on the table virtually identical. The US have been catching up of late, I'm sure if it was the like the Olympics the US would find a way to manipulate the results. In the absence of math ability they could use a reliable source to quote like Fox News.

Thanks for the correction, my eyesight not too good, however one could be mistaken a more apt description of Mr Trump could not be found. My best jokes are the ones I don't mean.

The irony was in the choice of Avatar not the member. In respect of the comments all of the above apply except cool.

Anyone else think it is ironic that the avatar of the creator of this thread is ex POTUS Donald Trump. Not cool.

Just shows his lack of capacity to follow through, another useless Brexit Conservative all talk no action.

Potential for a thread and discussion Arthur Scargill, 83 year old communist recluse former resident of the Barbican Centre. Been quiet for a while, I was reminded of him after Boris's climate change comments yesterday. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Scargill Famous for taking part in some of Britains darkest hours (literally).

Hindsight is a marvellous thing, It is an education to read the early comments on this thread. I think that we have reached the stage where the deaths per case are of the order of 2% minimum, there being large numbers of unrecorded deaths and asymptomatic cases (the latter don't really count). This would have been worse without the vaccine effort and isolation lockdowns, some countries have performed better than others. Politics, location, border control and population behaviour all having noticeable effects. Currently in the UK risks are approaching manageable levels, like flu. Global attitudes are evolving to mitigate the risks the world is a changing place.

It would seem that Long Covid and its lingering effects could have devastating consequences on the health service and the economy. We have seen the rise of diagnosed diabetes in the general population over the past decades, long covid could bring similar levels of long term costs and stretch the resources of the NHS. I think that the current people who are not taking up the vaccine are risking potential long term illness, statistically they may not die but they can still suffer if they are unfortunate to succumb to the virus.

Thanks I wondered myself, I was trying to set up a poll but failed, I have no problem with immigrants but the French Europeans need to manage their borders and should suffer the costs for their failures. Immigrants should be treated fairly and humanely but that should be in the first community in which they land, not their country of choice. There are ways of legitimate immigration, a rubber dingy from one civilised country to another is not one of them. In response to why they would like to come to the UK perhaps they are attracted by the Spitting Image characters who run the country.

Australians have deported Hopkins taken her visa away and fined her too, we just hope she is forced to isolate when she returns, happy result with the associated costs. She might learn to keep her mouth shut.

I now understand the reason for the conspiracy theory with the phone masts, it is not the masts themselves or the 5G signals they use. It is the transmission of the data from the track and trace app the people are trying to avoid. I wonder if there could be a software solution to reduce the strength of the bluetooth signal such that false positives could not be transmitted through walls etc, just a thought you could tune your own mobile phone sensibly.

England played well for four minutes.

In the words of Mrs Controller score a f***ing goal and get a haircut.