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  1. Posted

    On 05/06/2024 at 00:58, Commtech Sio Bibble said:

    Can you please post the name of the person you're posting a picture of in future, because I have no idea who that is.

    Apologies. 

    It's ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdad right before he got killed.

  6. Posted

    On 25/01/2024 at 18:08, Toast said:

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    I quite enjoy this thread. But I do see the point you're making. Thinking it through, every film ever made will be eligible eventually so we're setting ourself one heck of an admin job. For example, the cast of this might be the first entire cast of a film to all be dead.  

     

    [Actual 4K Scan] The Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat Station - Lumière Brothers - 1896. (youtube.com)

     

     

    I can't track down dates of birth/death but the cast is 

     

    1. Marcel Koehler

       

      Self

    2. Mrs. Auguste Lumière
    3.  
    4.  

      Rose Lumière

       

      Self

    5.  

      Suzanne Lumière

       

      Self

       

       

       

      All presumably 'mort'/ 

       

      And the behind the camera talent is 

      Directing/Producing

       

      Auguste Lumière

      Auguste Lumière (died 1954)

       

      Louis Lumière

      Louis Lumière (died 1948)

  10. Posted

    Just now, Death Impends said:

    Just gave Anita Bryant's book a read. She's a bit too consumed by this obsession with the gay issue but raises some pretty salient points on the horror stories over how they're invading straight spaces and corrupting the children.

    Anita Bryant is an interesting example.

    As far as I can tell she was/is simply "anti-gay". IIRC, the original stance on Gay Rights which made her famous was that she wanted to repeal a law that outlawed discriminating against gays in employment . recruiting . Or to put it another way, she wanted to make it legal to not recruit people for being gay.

     

    I don't think Linehan is saying anything similar. He's not saying it should be illegal to transition, or that transitioning is wrong per se.

    In an odd way his position on the trans issue is more nuanced and tolerant than Bryant's on Gay Rights.
    And I'd agree that they both have the odd salient point mixed in with everything else.

     

    Maybe the key difference in presentation is that while Bryant was widely despised and mocked she always came across as a slightly dotty aunt; Linehan comes across as an obsessive who's fighting individuals. 

     

    NB- Do we know anything about Bryant's current health for the main List. All IO can find is that she's 84, and seems to be running a ministry in Oaklahoma.

  12. Posted

    I've just got to the end of his book and I have a couple of conclusions, good and bad.

     

    1) Great comedy writer. If you look at the thread on Cook's and Bomb'd , link above, there's a very obvious feeling of those who wrongly consider themselves to be comedy talents kicking a man when he's down. (Or perhaps, more accurately, kicking a man when he's too mentally distracted to fight back.) 

    2) He's obsessive. I can't think of any autobiography I've ever read that focusses so much on one topic that isn't strictly related to the reason the subject is famous. For example, if you read a celebrity "recovery memoir", you won't find that 80% of it is related to AA meetings, drug dealers, and *other people's* drug use. Linehan's story is around 4/5 related to the trans issue. He's allowed himself to become solely associated with it. Maybe he thought that he'd get more support or be able to parle it into a positive career branch. That won't happen since he's come to be seen as obsessed with trans rather than informed about it.

     

    3) He has no presentation skills on the Trans issue. He shares the truly horrifying stories: men being allowed into women's prisons and women's spaces, abuse of children, blackmail, online abuse etc. But tends to come across as angry and nothing else. I think the key is that there's not a single constructive suggestion anywhere about what to do for trans people in legal or legislative terms. One of those, anywhere, would change the whole tone.

    Maybe this comes from the fact he's a writer. They're not supposed to be emotionally intelligent in the real world, only in abstract. 

     

    4) He's too reactive. If you're in an online argument about an issue you should never allow yourself to get personal while criticising  the other party. This is the exact stage at which you've lost the argument and they've won on presentation grounds. You are, in effect, drowning your own argument out. This is doubly so if you are wholly or in part in the right.  And from time to time, he is in the right. I'm far from being a media expert, but I'd say he'd be far better off sharing the evidence of the shocking stories he's come across and then *not* commenting on them further. Let others do their own working out so that he doesn't come across as haranguing on the issue.   

     

    NB- I'm in the States at the moment. Los Angeles to be precise. I had a coffee with a trans friend yesterday, asked them if they'd ever heard of Graham Linehan and they hadn't. So maybe the ultimate irony here is that there's been no "cut through" in media terms.

     

     

     

  13. Posted

    1 minute ago, TQR said:

    There are lots of words to describe Linehan. A fair few of which are anatomical, so let's pick the most appropriate one, the one that we all have in common, whether you're a man, a woman, an enby or anything in between, whether you're trans, not trans or just have gammon-infuriating pronouns.

     

    Linehan is an arsehole.

     

    Thread complete.

    Sure, maybe. But what exactly are you saying makes him an arsehole?

    I definitely see objective  evidence of him being obsessive. 

    Mind you, are you saying that the sheer level of obsession makes him an areshole?

  14. Posted

    11 minutes ago, Clorox Bleachman said:

     

    Perhaps this was the moment he became obsessed with genitals...

    That's one of the elements that confuses me :  "obsessed with genitals".
    It does seem to have become an obsession for him.

    Having said that, I can't see much that he's saying which isn't factual. Even if his "spin' on the facts may be extreme. 

    It may be one of the oldest problems for anyone discussing any subject- "It's not what you're saying, it's *how* you're saying it."

  17. Posted

    There's another forum which  I'm banned from that has several very long threads about Graham Linehan. Trans Mania: Graham Linehan is an Obsessive Transphobe (cookdandbombd.co.uk) (Note Deathlist admins: I got banned from it for using the word "retarded". Not even for calling someone retarded, but for using the word "retarded'". It's a very PC/woke space.) 

    I've had a bit of free time in the last few days and I went through most of the Graham Linehan threads on there and listened to the audiobook of  his autobiography on a plane. 

    I wondered what people on here thought of the whole "Graham Linehan Trans Row".

    I can't decide between his own self image (defender of women's rights who's also bravely raising and publicising severe abuse of children) and the more critical view of him (basically raging transphobe/ homophobe who's literally gone insane over the subject and is a severely nasty piece of work.) Having listened to his story from his point of view in a bit more depth I'm still totally undecided.

    Do Deathlisters have any thoughts on him?
     

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  20. Posted

    On 14/03/2024 at 12:06, Bibliogryphon said:

    I thought people might have been all over this one but I have searched and not seen it mentioned

     

    Zoe Ball is absent from her Radio 2 Breakfast show as her mother (who divorced her Dad when she was 2) has been diagnosed with cancer

     

    Unlikely to get a direct obituary but might get some coverage

    It's a very generous employer who will give you the day off work because your mother has been diagnosed with something.

    What do they do if she actually dies?

  22. Posted

    @La Faucheuse

    I'm sorry if I'm being dumb here. Help me understand once and for all. To qualify for this particular Death List the criteria are that you have to be 

    a) French

    and/or

    b) Francophone

    and/or

    c) Have had "an impact in France'. Not merely performed in France, or be famous in France, but have your main or ongoing source of fame be *in France*.

     

    Have I understood correctly?

  23. Posted

    15 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said:

    As far as I can see, neither Bob Dylan or Woody Allen made half of their career in France, But feel free to join our committee if you have some more useful names to give :) 

    To end this debate, we stick to Clark being on the list, Linda de Suza for example, despite being Portuguese, would have been qualified for our list as she based her career essentially on french market. I repeat, this is a french speaking deathlist. I suspect we will just keep Clark’s until her demise  to piss people like you who don’t understand her impact in France and why she belongs in such a list.  

    I'm still somewhat confused by the idea of someone being a "Francophone celebrity" making them eligible for your list.
    Petula Clark gets on the list despite - as far as we know- not being French, but because she is famous in France and speaks French.

    Eddie Izzard performs in French and speaks French. Would she be eligible?

    Eddie Izzard Stripped Tout en Français! (youtube.com)

  24. Posted

    5 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said:

    Petula Clark was chosen due to her long and illustrious career in France. She may not be french per se (I can’t find any info about french citizenship) but we did say « francophone personalities » and not « french » on the first page with the rules. Petula has had a long history with France which, we commonly thought, was enough to include her in a french speaking deathlist. This choice may be controversial but we can’t delete her now. Maybe we’ll replace her for next year, as she was in competition with Leslie Caron. 

    I see what you're saying.

    So , for example, could Bob Dylan be on your list on the grounds that he was given the Legion d'Honneur in 2013?

    Or Woody Allen on the grounds that he's conducted TV interviews in French?

     

     

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  25. Posted

    5 hours ago, Bestparolanto said:

    I was warned of the pedantry that could reign here, I did not expect it to arise in such a petty way.

    In any case, and if the choice of Madame Petula Clark in the French deathlist does not suit these gentlemen, and in order to avoid extreme acts. We could consider :

    1. removing Madame from the list and replacing her with another
    2. removing Madame from the list without replacing her.

    3. Or we can keep her and consider her enough French because she sung "La Gadoue".

     

    Those are my suggestion, I don't know the case law on the matter.

    Do you really find it pedantic to point out that someone on a French Deathlist might not be French?

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