YoungWillz

Talking of this Austrian immigrant family, both Tugsy's father and uncle are eminently obitable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Tugendhat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Tugendhat,_Baron_Tugendhat What is it with Tories? So many of their prominent politicians come from immigrant stock. Austria wasn't even in the Empire. Farage should have a field day with these guys. (Admittedly you have to back to the Huguenots for his stock , although the Germans are involved somewhere in the nineteenth century).

Tugendhat steps forward to contest for Tory leader.

Ken Palmer: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tributes-paid-somerset-cricket-legend-145339854.html Ah now I get it.

@time This sufficient for Ken Palmer? https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tributes-paid-somerset-cricket-legend-145339854.html If so, this should be sufficient for Yvonne Furneaux, no? Yvonne Furneaux QO: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/yvonne-furneaux-actress-fellini-la-190759703.html Edit: But this should be: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/jul/24/yvonne-furneaux-obituary

Derby Dead Pool in response to your friend.

Annoyingly Donald Scott gets a Scotsman obit: https://www.scotsman.com/news/people/scotsman-obituaries-donald-scott-scottish-rugby-internationalist-and-pe-teacher-4712507 That doesn't count afaik, so we wait on The Herald playing catch up.

One test Charlie and Somerset player and umpire Ken Palmer reportedly dead: https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/tributes-paid-after-somerset-cricket-9434492 DDP Pick.

Well. You nip to the shops to do your weekly and.... I've always had a thing for Owen Jones, strangely. Maybe a little to chatty for me. But then I've always a thing for Sebastian Payne as well. Oh the rows we would have. Anyhow, I like to position myself somewhere in the middle of both of them. Given half the chance!

We'll see. The two child cap is not the hill I would have chosen to stamp down hard on. (id I just say hard on?). Interesting times ahead I guess. I promised as little mercy to Labour as I had for the Tories. And I am unanimous in that. I shall no doubt receive the ire of supporters in due course. But 3 weeks in and the fun has already started.

Maybe I'm not being clear enough. Ha! These 7 MPs were wrong to vote in favour of something diametrically opposed to the manifesto. A six month suspension has given these few a major platform to air grievance against the leadership, instead of it being a tiny sideshow which would die out without a flicker. The precedent is set. Labour have never been the party of unity that the Tories used to be back in the day. Ruling by diktat, suspension or even possible expulsion smacks of the old Soviet Union. Democracy, huh? Ah well.

Bobbins? On this thread? (see what I did there?). Starver could simply have ignored such a minor rebellion when he has such a majority and moved on, claiming the high ground that he has already instigated a review. Seems nonsense to me. There is no doubt that these 7 MPs are voting against their own manifesto on which they were elected. Instead he has added heat to the situation and that seems unnnecessary at this time. Party dramas - fuck that. I'm sure there will be better things to nail Labour to the wall in due course. Meantime, if Starver wants to continue Tory child poverty for now which he promised in his manifesto and hopes that business investment and growth might cure that ill in due course, that is his prerogative. Relying on big business and foreign investment to sort things out? We'll be watching. And I do consider and detail my responses - equating that with one sentence opinion from other members which gain your ire are beneath you.

Ah, let me clear. I have no issue either way, it is clear that these MPs were elected on a platform which excluded removing the two child cap. They then chose to vote against that and voted against a King's Speech in part - the 7 Labour MPs are culpable in that. I see the dear leader is now being termed Sir Kid Starver - whoever came up with that needs a knighthood. But it is again putting party over country. The last thing the country needs is more politicking. What happened to respectful disagreement? What happens if there is a major rebellion? Starver has set a precedent here - could he go six months having suspended say 100+ MPs? Who knows what tomorrow brings? Alas, as I say, they are all the same and they have more in common than divides them.

Seems draconian, what is this - a Politburo? Lest we forget Johnson actually went and expelled Soames et al for daring to defy him. Change certainly, but all the same.

Richard Cottrell reportedly dead aged 81 and a few days: https://www.wellington-today.co.uk/news/richard-cottrell-former-mep-and-wellington-weekly-reporter-dies-in-italy-aged-81-707634 Might be worth an update Biblio? Few fallers, are there many left?

Former Dean of St Paul's, John Moses, death notice: https://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/marketplace/advert/moses-notices_58144

Niall Hopper, forward for Queens Park and who played for Scotland and Great Britain at amateur level, reportedly dead: I'm going to suggest this is his death notice: https://www.heraldscotland.com/memorials/death-notices/death/30624202.niall-hopper/

Add Roberta Taylor QO: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jul/23/roberta-taylor-obituary

Roberta Taylor Guardian Obit: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jul/23/roberta-taylor-obituary Gina Gold in The Bill and Irene Raymond in Eastenders. Slightly shaken about this death. IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0853085/

Saw the purported letter hours ago. I think we would all know about it through the media almost immediately.

Yvonne Furneaux QO: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/yvonne-furneaux-actress-fellini-la-190759703.html

Sandy Posey gets a Mail mention: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13660933/Sandy-Posey-dead-80-Singer-passes-away-following-dementia-battle.html

Kenneth Grange QO: https://www.thetimes.com/uk/obituaries/article/sir-kenneth-grange-obituary-death-cxbzt9286

Ah, bloody typical, you have a grand old Sunday night out and then you wake up on Monday to musical deaths galore!

I see Wiki has been updated to signify the death of Harold Chico Torres, the last surviving original member of doo-wop US band The Crests. Nothing in the UK Charts but they did max out in the US Billboard Hot 100 at #2 with 16 Candles in 1958. Again, I cannot find an obit.

I'm also going to say I assume Abdul Duke Fakir had 60s and 70s hits with the Four Tops, but I'm sure @Ulitzer95 can check and update the entries.