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He is a must next year, but there have been even more certain "musts" like Howard Marks and John Wetton that have been totally ignored by the DeathList committee, so nothing's guaranteed. Out of my list, here are the names I would consider "musts": Nicholas Parsons Louis Farrakhan Alan Greenspan Jean-Marie Le Pen I. M. Pei Lyndon LaRouche Jacques Delors Norman Tebbit Little Richard Chris Rea Desmond Morris

Was watching some footage of the old Robot Wars on YouTube recently that featured him and his robot Cassius. He was such a nice guy that he said he didn't want to destroy his opponents' creations, only immobilize them, because he wanted to encourage, rather than discourage, kids to get into engineering. That approach wouldn't go far in the updated new series which features Carbide, Eruption, etc... Gotta love a bunch of grown men playing with remote controlled cars with weapons on them. Best form of entertainment ever!

There seems to be a lot of disagreement about who is Deathlist worthy and who is not. Someone should really start a separate thread about it, because as far as deadpooling goes it's an important topic of discussion that leads to some critical decision making about who to include and who not to include. Officially the person has to get a UK obituary, but in practice what this usually seems to mean is that people who are more famous tend to get priority on the list over those who are somewhat less famous, even if the somewhat less famous people are considered more likely to die during a given year. In practice what this usually means is that on the final list that's put up at midnight on New Year's Day, there is a huge bias towards big names. This is why I can score hits on my shadow list with names like Jacque Fresco and Raymond Smullyan whereas in practice it's highly unlikely that these would be on the main list as they are considered too obscure.

At that age you take nothing for granted. For example, people thought Pete Seeger was too healthy to be on the list, so he got taken off the list and died almost immediately afterwards.

And while I remember, this Wikipedia category is always worth checking out when making up any new year's shadow list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_with_cancer Has Morrissey seriously still got cancer? Some significant enough names in there, a few definitely worth a punt.

Okay, so I'm not really on this site a huge amount these days, which probably isn't such a bad thing to be fair - but do enjoy coming back here at this time of year to think about who should be on next year's list. So just thought I'd mention a few names to consider, at least some of whom are very seldom mentioned on this site: John Cantlie (b. 1970) - ISIS captive, possibly already dead according to untrustworthy news report from earlier this year Kurt Westergaard (b. 1935) - Danish cartoonist and critic of Islam Roman Polanski (b. 1933) - film director and sexual abuser Nicholas Parsons (b. 1923) - veteran British radio host, a must for next year as turning 95 Egidius Braun (b. 1925) - German football guy, UK obit chances negligible Udo Walendy (b. 1927) - German Holocaust denier, UK obit chances low Louis Farrakhan (b. 1933) - Leader of the Nation of Islam, I would say a good pick for next year Richard Sherman (b. 1928) - Disney songwriter Robbie Coltrane (b. 1950) - Scottish actor Brian Blessed (b. 1936) - English actor Peter Tobin (b. 1946) - Scottish serial killer Dennis Nilsen (b. 1945) - Scottish serial killer Josef Fritzl (b. 1935) - Austrian incest dad Gary Glitter (b. 1944) - rock musician and paedo Ian Watkins (b. 1977) - nu metal musician and paedo, yes he's young but anything could happen in prison including suicide Anders Breivik (b. 1979) - Norwegian mass murderer, yes he's young but anything could happen in prison including suicide, he has also been on hunger strike and done all sorts of crazy shit Micheline Bernardini (b. 1927) - French woman who modelled the first bikini in 1946 - never mind all these dying porn stars, here's an even better pick! Walter Mondale (b. 1928) - American politician Ross Perot (b. 1930) - American politician Alan Greenspan (b. 1926) - American economist Jurgen Habermas (b. 1929) - German sociologist Richard Lynn (b. 1930) - British eugenicist and scientific racist Jean Raspail (b. 1925) - French author Jean-Marie Le Pen (b. 1928) - French far-right politician Cecil Taylor (b. 1929) - American jazz musician Eugene Wright (b. 1923) - American jazz musician and member of Dave Brubeck's band Berry Gordy (b. 1929) - American Motown musician and manager E. O. Wilson (b. 1929) - American biologist Timothy Dudley-Smith (b. 1926) - English hymnwriter I. M. Pei (b. 1917) - Chinese-American architect Hosni Mubarak (b. 1928) - former Egyptian president Lyndon LaRouche (b. 1922) - American political activist Jean Grand Duke of Luxembourg (b. 1921) - former Grand Duke of Luxembourg Jacques Delors (b. 1925) - French politician Norman Tebbit (b. 1931) - British politician Gaston Glock (b. 1929) - Austrian firearms manufacturer Mark E. Smith (b. 1957) - British post-punk musician with The Fall, and yes mentioned several times here already but wanted to just mention him again Irmin Schmidt (b. 1937) - German keyboardist with Can, most of his bandmates are now dead and he was always the oldest and fattest member of the group Charles Aznavour (b. 1924) - Armenian-French singer Little Richard (b. 1932) - American rock and roll musician Rex Garrod (b. 19??) - British engineer and inventor, created Brum from the children's TV series and also entered into Robot Wars with Cassius, now apparently living in a care home with dementia, not sure of his exact age but would imagine him to be at least 70 Chris Rea (b. 1951) - British musician, not in the best of health at the moment Roberta McCain (b. 1912) - American mother of John McCain, don't see why they can't both be on this year's list to be honest! Gudrun Ure (b. 1926) - Scottish actress, Supergran Jan Svankmajer (b. 1934) - Czech filmmaker Arvo Part (b. 1935) - Estonian composer Quentin Blake (b. 1932) - British cartoonist Desmond Morris (b. 1928) - British biologist and author - a potential good pick here that I don't see being talked about much Opinions on any of these picks would be appreciated, thanks!

He is a must for next year. Definitely obitable and more than old enough

I was going to say these things come in threes (Shyla Stylez, August Ames, and Yurizan Beltran) but then Tera Bond was another one! Probably about the only person who has been in porn I can think of who is still alive and is actually Deathlistable is Ron Jeremy. These young women dying cannot really be predicted, but an ageing fat sleazy bastard who looks like death warmed up has got to go sooner or later, and probably sooner rather than later.

I was going to say I thought Eddie Stobart was already dead?

17th hit! I think we will get one more hit before the year is out. December is definitely the dying season

Since when was he in a wheelchair?

Who should be on the list? Well, people who are still alive who were good picks who have been missed in previous years! But, we need to start including big names with no particular health problems who were born around 1930 - that means your Sean Connerys and Clint Eastwoods need to start making an appearance on the list around now as they are old enough and it would be bad to miss them.

Javier Perez de Cuellar until he dies.

I think we will get a 16th death this year. In fact I don't think it's impossible we might get a 17th, 18th or even 19th death this year. 20 deaths is unlikely though. Going with Javier Perez de Cuellar again

Has the bossa nova pioneer Joao Gilberto been seriously considered before? He's quite old and def obitable

I'm amazed with how this year's list has managed to turn itself around. We were not doing particularly well at all mid-summer with quite a few obvious misses including some big names, but then August and then September have brought a lot of hits. So it looks like 2017 will almost certainly be the record-breaking year - still got 3 months left to go and there's no way all 36 living people on that list will last that period of time! (Although stranger things have happened...)

Javier Perez de Cuéllar for an anticlimactic record-breaking hit!

Only heard of him because he's on a famous album cover, that's the only reason I know his name

Rex Garrod.

Thanks, my mistake! I also should have mentioned J. Geils as one of the more minor heroes of rock we lost this year

Who's White? Just not registering right now. Last time I checked Jack White was still alive and Barry White was long dead. It's true that Chuck Berry was ancient for a rock and roller but truth be told the majority of the most important rock musicians were born in the 1940s or 1950s and haven't had the chance to reach that age yet. I could quite easily see guys like Peter Gabriel, Steve Winwood, Brian Eno and others reaching their 90s (although I've probably just cursed them all by saying that which means they'll all be dead within a year). 2017 has still taken a lot of important names, both in music and outside it. It seems that this year it's been about the more minor heroes of rock - everyone from John Wetton to Grant Hart to Holger Czukay to Allan Holdsworth to Walter Becker - plus a couple of high profile rock suicides like Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington, as well as some not unexpected deaths like Chuck Berry and Glen Campbell and Duane Allman. And let's not forget that 2017 is far from over just yet. Still three and a half months to go.

Couldn't have said it better than what Toast said.

I'm not really that big a fan of punk (well except Husker Du, Television, The Fall, Public Image Ltd, Gang of Four, Wire, Joy Division, etc and yes I'm aware some of these are post-punk) when compared with prog rock but I was sad to hear of the death of Grant Hart. I actually liked Candy Apple Grey the most out of all their albums.

Unfortunately! To lose John Wetton, Allan Holdsworth and Jaki Liebezeit and Holger Czukay this year has made 2017 every bit as bad as 2016. But to lose all these ageing prog musicians is hardly unexpected to be honest. What's been more surprising has been the deaths of guys like Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington...

I saw them in 2016 and don't feel the need to go see them again, but will be catching the Jethro Tull 50th anniversary tour.