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Herbert Mies, former Chairman of the West German Communist Party (1973-1989), has died aged 87.

Bishop Eddie Long has died aged 63, a hit for some in the pools I believe. http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/us/bishop-eddie-long-dead/index.html

If that's true, then some competing teams will already have an advantage over us. Think it's true, but I will still wait for full confirmation before posting anywhere else. Edit: Confirmed

Rumours floating on Twitter that Bishop Eddie Long has died.

We do have a Jacksons thread. And most certainly a Michael Jackson one.! I was going to put it in The Jacksons thread but then Lawrence wasn't listed in the list of the Jackson family, since he wasn't really at the forefront, so I thought against it. Feel free to put it in there too though, if you like.

Rumours that Nicodemo Scarfo, member of American Mafia and mob boss, has died aged 87. I can only see one source, however, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

Lawrence Jackson, brother of Joe Jackson, uncle to Michael, Janet and their brothers and sisters, has died. http://www.jwjackson.com/rest-in-peace-lawrence-jackson/

You're gonna need another sub.

Rustie Lee is often a commentator on Big Brother's Bit on the Side and she has said she wants to go on Celebrity Big Brother herself. At least they might have some nice food if she did. Besides that she's a UKIP supporter so presumably often down the pub with Nigel.

Nepalese rapper, Yama Buddha, has apparently died aged 29. He died in London from an apparent suicide. http://www.myrepublica.com/news/13100

Or even better he could pop out of the cake wearing nothing but a bra and knickers singing Happy Birthday to himself.

When Labour is losing on the NHS you know it's time for Corbyn to go.

Irish actor and director, Barry Cassin, has died aged 92. http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2017/0114/844983-actor-barry-cassin-has-passed-away-aged-92/

Mark Fisher, a cultural theorist and lecturer at Goldsmiths University of London has reportedly died aged 49. His most notable works include ​Capitalist Realism and his k-punk blog. He was also a contributor to The Guardian and The New Statesman. His wife has confirmed he committed suicide. http://thequietus.com/articles/21567-mark-fisher-dies-rip Edit: Here is a Guardian obituary.

Link? It's wrong, my apologies.

Edit: Wrong.

Prince Mohammed bin Faisal bin Abdulaziz al Saud has died aged 80. http://www.spa.gov.sa/viewfullstory.php?lang=en&newsid=1580295

What? Seems like your heads dead. He's referring to Alexis Mardas which has already been posted here: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7689-scientists-inventors-and-techno-wizards/?p=292483

The hospital has confirmed Marc Van Wageningen, bass player in Tower of Power, is in a critical condition after suffering broken ribs, concussion, internal injuries and has undergone surgery. A friend has set up a GoFundMe page to raise money for hospital bills, and claims he is 'fighting for his life'. Dave Garibaldi, drummer, is in a stable but critical condition after suffering head injuries. http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article126543619.html

Here's a quick list I've made of the 15 oldest living former MPs from the British House of Commons. Ronald Atkins, Labour, Preston North - 13/06/1916 (100) Sir Clive Bossom, Conservative, Leominster - 04/02/1918 - 08/03/17 (99) Sir Patrick Duffy, Labour, Colne Valley/Sheffield Attercliffe - 17/06/1920 (96) Sir Michael Shaw, Baron Shaw of Northstead, Conservative, Brighouse & Spenborough/Scarborough & Whitby - 09/10/1920 (96) Jack Dunnett, Labour, Nottingham Central/Nottingham East - 24/06/1922 (94) Dame Jill Knight, Baroness Knight of Collingtree, Conservative, Birmingham Edgbaston - 06/03/1923 (94) Ronald Buxton, Conservative, Leyton - 20/08/1923 - 10/01/2017 (93) Baron Robert Sheldon, Labour, Ashton under Lyne - 13/09/1923 (93) James Ramsden, Conservative, Harrogate - 01/11/1923 (93) William Howie, Baron Howie of Troon, Labour, Luton - 02/03/1924 (93) Sir Edward du Cann, Conservative, Taunton - 28/05/1924 (92) Sir Reginald Eyre, Conservative, Birmingham Hall Green - 28/05/1924 (92) Eric Cockeram, Conservative, Bebington/Ludlow - 04/07/1924 (92) Mary Holt, Conservative, Preston North - 31/07/1924 (92) Professor Alan Thompson, Labour, Dunfermline Burghs - 16/09/1924 - 18/02/2017 (92) I'm pretty certain most of them, if not all, will receive an obituary in The Telegraph or The Times.

FFS! Never had him going so soon, Mediterranean born etc, I was sure he had 10-15 years in him. I'm going to miss a ton of Beatles related deaths this year, I know it... I thought about putting this in The Beatles thread, couldn't decide where was more fitting! I agree, he's relatively young - says he died of pneumonia.

Magic Alex, who worked closely with The Beatles, has died aged 74. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/obituary/7655255/magic-alex-mardas-beatles-dead?utm_source=&utm_medium=&utm_campaign=

All you need to look at is when practically the whole Shadow Cabinet resigned and he floated around seemingly unfazed. I could be wrong, but I don't think Corbyn will resign until after General Election battle, one which he most certainly will lose. Still fail to see how he can have the audacity to be upset when people rebel against his leadership whilst he has spent practically his entire parliamentary career as a rebel, going against the whip over 400 times. Here's another article suggesting more walkouts, by the way.

She's supposedly making a major Brexit speech on Tuesday, where she expected to announce her intentions over the single market. The thing the EU keeps forgetting is whilst we can play nicely and go down the Article 50 route, if they begin to mess us around we can halt the negotiations, repeal the 1972 European Communities Act which is the domestic legislation that took us into the EU, thus cancelling our membership. Since all we're doing is repealing domestic legislation it is none of their business and then like you say, they have to come to us if they want anything. Australia, New Zealand and Canada are all optimistic for a trade deal, as is China. The Trump Administration has said we're at the front of the queue and they've openly said they'd like to see the collapse of the EU. Why don't we get on with making those trade deals whilst the EU flounders because it can't progress on any of their trade deals since it's so bloody difficult to get 28 member states to agree where to have a pint never mind intricacies of a trade deal. I agree with you though, if we're gonna do it we might as well do it proper.

Absolutely true they wouldn't bring death penalty to a referendum because people would vote overwhelmingly in favour of a return. A referendum on Monarchy, I'm quite certain, would return a very high percentage voting in favour of it. It's true we don't often use referenda, something I'm personally quite happy with. I vote to elect someone, who I feel is most in line with my views, in the belief that they will make the difficult decisions for me. However, whilst Cameron may well have been ignorant enough to call a referendum (in that he actually thought he could win it when he came back with such a poor deal), I still do believe sooner or later it had to happen. UKIP were breathing down the Tories necks, with no signs of flagging, so the Tories had to bite the bullet and call the referendum - far better that than be constantly pushed further and further to the right by UKIP. I believe referendum should be used extremely sparingly, and only for issues of great gravity which result in a lasting change in the history of our nation; something which I believe membership, or non-membership as the case may be, certainly qualifies under. I agree our uncodified Constitution is useful - something I'd far rather take than a rigid one. Look at the state America is in directly because of it's Constitution and Amendments, e.g gun control. If I'm honest, it might be an unpopular opinion here but I really think Theresa May is playing a sensible hand over Brexit. She walked into that office and due to the sheer ignorance of Cameron and Osborne mixed with the absolute stupidity of our Civil Service to fail to plan at all for Brexit, she has a monumental task to start with. As for the people who want her to unilaterally guarantee the rights of EU citizens without having reciprocal rights given by other EU nations, it would be a naive move. Why would we unilaterally guarantee their rights, for 6 months down the line in negotiations for the EU to make demands in order for countries such as Spain and France to keep all of our pensioners? And worst of all, the people demanding she publish a Brexit plan; why on earth would you walk into a negotiation with the people you are doing a deal with knowing all your red lines, demands and weak spots. This isn't playtime anymore, this is a hard-nosed negation and if we don't think the EU is going to play tough then we're naive. We need to keep our cards very close to our chest, because despite what some people want you to believe we do actually have a strong hand. You can disagree with Mrs May all you like on her domestic policies - grammar schools, the NHS, nuclear weapons etc., but I don't see valid criticism of her handling of the EU negotiations.