Prophet

Republicans should really invest a lot of money into Illinois, New York and New Jersey, considering how close the election was there. It would open up many more pathways to victory than they had before. Another interesting aspect of this election is that in the age of social media outrage, the incumbency advantage may have turned into an incumbency disadvantage. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a huge blue wave in four years.

My prediction from four years ago wasn't far off, even though the margins were way off in the Rust Belt and I got Florida and North Carolina wrong. This year, my prediction would look something like this, but it's really a coin toss at this point. EDIT: Sorry, wrong topic. I was just thinking about my 2020 map that I posted here and looked it up.

Yeah, but it's still sad that we now live in a world where the witnesses of World War I are slowly fading away. Also, a lot of people look down on Deathlisting in the same way that many here look down on these 110 Clubers. If getting a short dopamine rush (and let's be honest, that's what it is) because a random 40-year-old cancer mom passes away and you gain points on your virtual list is considered okay, then why should it be so strange when 110 Club members feel sad that an old person who died peacefully did not reach one of those "arbitrary milestones"?

Some other German voice actors born before 1930 who are still alive following Eckart Dux's death are: Rolf Schimpf (14 November 1924), not a real voice actor but he did some dubbing work in the 80s, his health issues are well-known, I think and he's lived in a retirement home for almost 14 years now Joachim Konrad (15 November 1924), had over hundred roles in "Star Trek", "Twillight Zone", "Poirot" etc., there are rumours that he might died in 2017 but no source to confirm it Rolf Marnitz (6 December 1925), dubbed Harry Dean Stanton in "The Godfather II" and had some other minor roles in "Batman", "Star Wars" and "The Omen" but already retired in the early 90s, he continued to do audio books until 2014, he possibly died off-radar Detlev Witte (1 January 1926), his last role was Jason Robards in "Magnolia" in 2000 which he did fabulously and won an award for, an Wikipedia user edited his page in 2021 and claimed that he died on 8 August 2003 and corrected his birthdate to "9 May" but he didn't gave a source so that edit was reversed, on the other hand an supposed grandchild of his edited his page in 2017 to also correct his birth date to "9 May" and didn't wrote anything about him being passed away, he also said that he still has his German Dubbing Award and wants to add a picture of it to the article in future, which he never did Osman Ragheb (11 May 1926), half-Egyptian and half-Austrian, who grew up in the British Mandate of Palestine, and later spoke Tony Shalhoub, Jon Voight, Kreacher in the Harry Potter Franchise and Peter Vaughan in Game of Thrones, he also had a small acting role in Schindler's List and was a dialect coach who worked with Brad Pitt and Meryl Streep in his career, he's retired nowadays, is almost deaf and has some memory problems, even though he still writes poems for his wife, which he can recite by memory, he gave an radio interview last year and he's an very friendly and intelligent guy Thomas Reiner (29 October 1926), probably most well-known for dubbing Professor Farnsworth but he didn't had that role in the Futurama revival last year, seems to be still active irregulary and only complained about sight problems in an interview from 2016, his last job seems to have been in 2021 Richard Baier (27 November 1926), not a classical voice actor but he's the radio presenter who first announced the 20 July 1944 plot to the public during World War II and later delivered the last propaganda report of the "Greater German Broadcast", where he famously said "The Fuhrer is dead, long live the Empire", he later was a political prisoner in East Germany for his work with American Sector Radio broadcasts, because of his historical significance I highly doubt that he died without an report Renate Grosser (18 September 1927), she dubbed the creepy old women in "Blair Witch Project", who described the Blair Witch, as a hairy half-human and half-animal beast, aside from that she seemed to have done a lot of cheesy crime shows in the 70s and 80s Friedrich Georg Beckhaus (11 December 1927), voice of Harry Dean Stanton, Robert Duvall and Klaus Kinski (who was too lazy to dub himself, which annoyed the dub director, which is why they gave him a thick Saxon accent in some of his movies), he finally retired last year Jürgen Thormann (12 February 1928), lives in an retirement home now but still voiced Michael Caine last year to everyone's surprise Karl-Ulrich Meves (13 November 1928), voiced Grover in the German version of the Sesame street among other lesser known roles, recently came out of retirement to appear in an audio play Eva-Maria Lahl (1929), not much is known about her, couldn't even find a picture of her on the web but she voices Agnes Skinner in "The Simpsons" and is still active May these legends continue to live very long

If the committee had included him this year, they could have used "He's not as alive as he once was" as a perfect headline.

I have three hits: Derek Draper, Glynis Johns and Yury Solomin.

I had a strong feeling that they will go for Ken Livingstone after his recent Alzheimer diagnosis, as he's easily among the Top 10 most well known political figures in the UK and is exactly the kind of name they usually chose. I mean it would be to early to include him but so were many names on prior Deathlists. I'm kind of surprised to see that I was the only one who had him in mind.

17 Hits: 1. Jimmy Carter (Joker) 2. Ethel Kennedy 3. Denis Law 4. James Whale 5. Louis Farrakhan 6. Sandy Gall 7. Norman Tebbit 8. Roberta Flack 9. Jean-Marie Le Pen 10. Linda Nolan 11. Imelda Marcos 12. Joanne Woodward 13. Noam Chomsky 14. Esther Rantzen 15. Stanley Baxter 16. Tom Brokaw 17. Alan Greenspan

I mean, Rene Weller, another dementia-ridden boxer of similar age, was still walking his dog months before he became bedridden and shot a movie two years before he died. But I agree that there are better picks.

If they wanted to have a conductor on the list, they should have rather chosen Michael Tilson Thomas instead.

Bad pick IMO. He was probably faking his dementia for prison privileges, as he had to do yard work to pay for his TV and wanted to be relocated to a safer prison which didn't worked out. Now he's back to giving interviews and is already writing his autobiography in which he denies all rumors about his health. Sidney Cooke would have been a way better choice.

They make it a bit too easy for themselves by nominating Pope Benedict, a dead guy.

My ballot: 1. Fred Risser 2. Ursula Haverbeck 3. V. S. Achuthanandan 4. Pete McCloskey 5. Norman Tebbit 6. Josef Duchac 7. Heinz Riesenhuber 8. Wilhelm von Gottberg 9. Nikolai Ryzhkov 10. Bradford Lyttle Subs: 1. Roy Hattersley 2. Ron Paul 3. Bernhard Vogel

Everybody who visits an nursing home would be surprised on how long some people can survive in absolutely horrible condition. I had a 87-year old patient who had terminal cancer, which wasn't treatable anymore so he technically was in the same situation as Jimmy Carter and he was still alive on my last day of work with no indication of dying any time soon, after having this disease for years. At Jimmy's age, his cells divide much slower so his cancer is less aggressive than for younger folks.

Still haven't received an confirmation Email for my main team, so I just sent them my B-Team under a different Email Adress which worked flawless. My team was confirmed in the blink of an eye.

My selection is this time way less risky than last year. I think there is a realistic chance to break my record of 26/50 Hits from 2021. My Shadowlist: 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Steve McMichael 3. James Whale 4. Esther Rantzen 5. Jonnie Irwin 6. Francoise Hardy 7. Chuwit Kamolvisit 8. Frank Field 9. V. S. Achuthanandan 10. Paul Hogan 11. Glynis Johns 12. Eva Marie Saint 13. Michael Tilson Thomas 14. Linda Nolan 15. William Russell 16. Rob Burrow 17. Larry Pressler 18. Mahathir Mohamad 19. Nigel Starmer-Smith 20. Joanne Woodward 21. Rick 'Black Bart' Harris 22. Rolf Schimpf 23. Roberta Flack 24. Philippe de Gaulle 25. Dick Van Dyke 26. Sonny Rollins 27. Russell M Nelson 28. Noam Chomsky 29. Patrick Murray 30. Bernadette Chirac 31. Alain Delon 32. Micheline Presle 33. Yury Solomin 34. John Ashton 35. Kenneth Cope 36. James Carter Cathcart 37. Ted Turner 38. Leonid Roshal 39. David Graham 40. Hossein Wahid Khorasani 41. Sam Neill 42. Alexander Mitta 43. Violeta Chamorro 44. June Spencer 45. Shannen Doherty 46. Stan Bowles 47. Peter Angelos 48. Sidney Cooke 49. Derek Draper 50. Toby Keith Subs: 1. Paul Auster 2. Dries van Agt 3. Wade MacLeod 4. Bob Newhart 5. David Attenborough What do you guys think about my drops? I'm still uncertain about a few of them: Andy Taylor: His radiation Therapy seems to give him a little bit more time than initially expected, is no longer in palliative care and is currently asymptomatic, his prostate cancer has only spread to his bones yet Josip Manolic: Had this guy on my list for years now and he just doesn't die so I decided to drop him like I did with David Musuguri last year whose also still alive, he's probably one of the healthier centenarians, still walks unaided, survived Covid without getting hospitalized and isn't an A-Lister like Dick van Dyke, who would be to big to be missed Zhang Lixiong: Very frail and will probably die next year but I found him a boring name, he's a General and one of the last founding members of the PLA but basically just famous for his age in the west June Lockhart: Just old but still active as an actress at 98 now Roger Corman: Another generic old guy without public health issues who seemingly stopped aging 20 years ago by his appearance, these kind of names haven't brought me a lot of hits in my previous Shadowlists David Attenborough: Definitely one of the hardest drops, as I love his documentaries and wouldn't want to miss him but objectively there are better candidates, I always keep the 25 remainer limit so I had to drop either him of Dick van Dyke and I kept Dick van Dyke because of his dramatic weight loss in the last few years and his recent appearances in a wheelchair Mel Brooks: Same reason as Corman and Lockhart but I strangely have a feeling that he might join his friends Norman Lear and Carl Reiner next year, even though he's in perfect health but it's basically a gamble at this age

1. Jimmy Carter 2. Michael Tilson Thomas 3. Steve McMichael 4. Jonnie Irwin 5. Wade MacLeod 6. Linda Nolan 7. Derek Draker 8. Frank Caprio 9. Esther Rantzen 10. William Russell Subs: 1. John Cruickshank 2. Rolf Schimpf 3. David Graham

EDIT: Already sent my team, sorry.

My Prediction, which I already prepared for New Year's Eve but didn't wanted to send to Book yet because the survival of the Number One is in the limbo territory at this point and the inclusion of my subs could mess up the order, looks actually quite similar: Jimmy Carter Dick van Dyke Esther Rantzen Nigel Starmer-Smith Alan Greenspan James Whale Joanne Woodward Michael Caine Robert Wagner Stanley Baxter Cleo Laine Ethel Kennedy Dick Cheney Julie Goodyear Jean-Marie Le Pen Bob Newhart Robert Duvall David Graham Prunella Scales Shannen Doherty Desmond Morris Glynis Johns Noam Chomsky Patricia Routledge Clint Eastwood Norman Tebbit Mel Brooks Denis Law David Attenborough Douglas Hurd Pete Murray Imelda Marcos James D. Watson Dennis Skinner Sandy Gall Yoko Ono Linda Nolan Roberta Flack Patrick Murray Petula Clark Sam Neill Ken Livingstone Toby Keith John Ashton Marianne Faithfull MIchael Aspel John Astin Andy Taylor Sidney Cooke Bruce Willis

My Team: Steve McMichael (Joker) Esther Rantzen Jimmy Carter Michael Tilson Thomas James Whale James Carter Cathcart Charles Bietry Lorraine Bayly Jonnie Irwin Violeta Chamorro Roberta Flack Patrick Murray William Russell Alexander Mitta June Spencer Rolf Schimpf Stan Bowles Joanne Woodward V. S. Achuthanandan Shannen Doherty Sonny Rollins Sam Neill Andrew Ranken Malachy McCourt Kenny Sansom Subs: Thomas Hoepker Francoise Hardy Larry Pressler

I initially planned to include her in my Shadowlist this year but I changed my mind when I heard that she will appear in the next Paddington Movie, which will be released in November 2024. The movie was filmed until this October, so she's probably in better health than many of us here imagine. The official reason she left the Channel 4 drama in March was "back pain", which sounds more like an old people issue than a cancer relapse. It's important to note that this lady is 73, an age when most people are already retired. She already mentioned in 2020 when she was cancerfree, that she wants to take things a bit slower now.

My List: Jimmy Carter Steve McMichael James Whale Esther Rantzen Jonnie Irwin Francoise Hardy Chuwit Kamolvisit Frank Field V. S. Achuthanandan Paul Hogan Glynis Johns Eva Marie Saint Michael Tilson Thomas Linda Nolan William Russell Rob Burrow Larry Pressler Mahathir Mohamad Nigel Starmer-Smith Joanne Woodward Rick 'Black Bart' Harris Rolf Schimpf Roberta Flack Philippe de Gaulle Dick Van Dyke Sonny Rollins Russell M Nelson Noam Chomsky Patrick Murray Bernadette Chirac Alain Delon Micheline Presle Yury Solomin John Ashton Kenneth Cope James Carter Cathcart Ted Turner Leonid Roshal David Graham Hossein Wahid Khorasani Sam Neill Alexander Mitta Violeta Chamorro June Spencer Shannen Doherty Stan Bowles Peter Angelos Sidney Cooke Derek Draper Toby Keith Subs Paul Auster Dries van Agt Wade MacLeod Bob Newhart David Attenborough I may change a few things on the list here and there in the next few days until Christmas but it's alright for now.

DACHL-List candidate Eckart Dux (b. 1926) had to cancel an appearance at a "King of Queens" screening in September. He only had two voice roles this year, once as Moriarty in "Star Trek: Picard", a role he already voiced 30 years ago and in "The Great Escaper" where he starred alongside fellow DACHL-List candidate Jürgen Thormann (b. 1928). Thormann officially retired in 2022 but might have made an exception this time, as this movie will be Michael Caine's last film, for whom he has provided his voice for almost 60 years. https://www.der-reporter.de/neustadt/neustadt-in-holstein/artikel/mit-hoerprobe-stimme-von-kevin-james-zu-gast-in-neustadt

You chose 40 candidates with health issues or who are just extremly old and the one with the least deaths this year wins the game. There are special rules for your first 15 candidates to make it a little bit more fun which are listed below. The game starts on 1 February 2023, you can either send me your list in a PM or post it in this thread. Rules: - First off all, all candidates have to be known for other reasons than just their age or health issues, they must be at least 18 - The first five candidates must be centenarians (born 1923 or before) - The next five candidates must be at least 95 (born 1928 or before) but you can also chose another few centenarians if you like to or mix it - The next three candidates must have Stage IV Cancer or Cancer classified as terminal, a Glioblastoma of any grade also counts - The next two candidates must have ALS You can chose the other 25 candidates freely but one of the following requirements must be fullfilled by them: - All of the requirements I mentioned for the first 15 candidates can be also used for the next candidates that you can freely chose - They're at least 90 (born 1933 or before) - They had pancreatic cancer in the past of any stage or a brain tumor in the past three years which wasn't/isn't benign - They currently have Stage 3 cancer - They have Chronic Leukemia and are over 75 (born 1947 or before) - They have Parkinson and are over 85 (born 1937 or before), the age requirement is only 70 (born 1953 ot before) for people who have Parkinson for at least 10 years - They have dementia and are over 65 (born 1957 or before) - They have diabetes and are over 80 (born 1942 or before) - They had a stroke in the past three years if they're at least 70 (born 1953 or before) or in the last five years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before) - They had a heart attack in the past two years if they're at least 80 (born 1943 or before), or if they're at least 75 (born 1948 or before) but had two or more additional heart attacks in the past 15 years - They were hospilazed for pneumonia or other infections in the last 12 months and are at least 85 (born 1938 or before) - They're severly obese and are over 85 (born 1937 or before) - They have a terminal liver, lung, heart or kidney disease which can cause death - You can chose up to 5 people who don't fulfill one of the age or duration requirements but they still have to have one of the conditions that I mentioned above except obesity and diabetes where we go strictly by age limit Sorry for my bad english which isn't the yellow from the egg. If I a made grammar or spelling mistake you can feel free to correct me.

@arghton@wannamaker@ladyfiona Hello, I know it's a little bit late, and I have been procrastinating a lot (I would have done it a lot sooner if my PC had gotten fixed earlier), but here are finally the results of the Alive List. I'm currently sick, so I thought this would be the perfect time to complete this project. Ladyfiona could be leading if Geoff Brown is still alive, which is highly unlikely, as there is a 22-year-old obituary of him circulating on the internet with a different birth date than in his public records, but the same wife nonetheless. So, I count him as dead for now. The rest of us all have only 44 folks alive, so the difference would be marginal anyway, and the flu season could change the outcome quite a bit. There is time until December 31. With kind regards, Maybe the worst host in all of Deathlist Forum History and certainly the laziest. Lists: Argthon (34/40): 1. María Isabel Rodríguez 2. Wei Wei (2 November 2023) 3. Zou Yu 4. Phyllis Latour (7 October 2023) 5. Michael Loewe 6. Valdas Adamkus 7. Aira Samulin (23 October 2023) 8. Juan Ponce Enrile 9. L.K. Advani 10. Mengesha Seyoum 11. Jonnie Irwin 12. Cynthia Mulligan 13. Gary Glenn (27 July 2023) 14. Jason Becker 15. Tempt One/Tony Quan (1 September 2023) 16. Vytautas Landsbergis 17. Ilia II of Georgia 18. Harald V 19. Chiam See Tong 20. Maria Nyerere 21. William Roache 22. Olusegun Obasanjo 22. Alan Alda 23. James Earl Jones 24. Vigdís Finnbogadóttir 25. Than Shwe 26. Anastasios of Albania 27. Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati 28. Warren Buffett 29. Henepola Gunaratana 30. DD Lapang 31. Princess Mette-Marit 32. Ram Narayan 33. Parkash Singh Badal (25 April 2023) 34. Choe Yong-rim 35. Sam Nujoma 36. Yoshiro Nakamatsu 37. Bibhash Chakraborty 38. Win Htein 39. Juha Väätäinen 40. Ong Pang Boon Ladyfiona (34/40): 1. Bob Barker (26 August 2023) 2. June Spencer 3. Janis Paige 4. Virginia Halas McCaskey 5. Iris Apfel 6. Dick van Dyke 7. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023) 8. Geoff Brown (Tennis player) (20 June 2001) 9. Tomiichi Murayama 10. Jacqueline Ceballos 11. Mark Pilgrim (5 March 2023) 12. Janey Godley 13. Shannen Doherty 14. Roberta Flack 15. Tim Green (American Football) 16. Billy Connolly 17- Derek Martin 18. Tony Caunter 19. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 20. Michael J. Fox 21. Christy Turlington 22. Andrew Simmons 23. Ozzy Osbourne 24. Damar Hamlin 25. Steven Spielberg 26. James Earl Jones 27. Britt Mchenry 28. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023) 29. Michael Tilson Thomas 30. Derek Draper 31. Tony Christie 32. Ron Jeremy 33. Bruce Willis 34. Eric Idle 35. Ruschell Boone (3 September 2023) 36. Patsy Kensit 37. Chris Ellison 38. Jo Wilson 39. Malandra Burrows 40. Ken Watanabe Prophet (34/40): 1. Roland Dumas 2. Henry Kissinger (29 November 2023) 3. Traute Lavrenz (6 March 2023) 4. Norman Lear (5 December 2023) 5. Glynis Johns 6. Hans Modrow (10 February 2023) 7. Kim Yong-nam 8. Dick Van Dyke 9. Mel Brooks 10. Ruth Westheimer 11. Wolfgang Bosbach 12. Edward Stourton 13. Rainer Langhans 14. Roberta Flack 15. Marcus Stewart 16. Michael Caine 17. Rupert Murdoch 18. Ottfried Fischer 19. Billy Connolly 20. Gunther von Hagens 21. Tony Christie 22. Mario Adorf 23. Sue Lopez 24. Buzz Aldrin 25. Eric Idle 26. Karl Heinz Hoffmann 27. Prunella Scales 28. William Shatner 29. June Squibb 30. Noam Chomsky 31. Pat Robertson (8 June 2023) 32. Fedez (Rapper) 33. Loni Anderson 34. George Soros 35. Patricia Routledge 36. Chuck Grassley 37. Dianne Feinstein (29 September 2023) 38. Freddy Quinn 39. Dennis Skinner 40. Linda Ronstadt Wannamaker (34/40): 1. Al Jaffee (10 April 2023) 2. Anthony Epstein 3. Iris Apfel 4. Phillipe de Gaulle 5. Ray Anthony 6. Rosemary Harris 7. Alan Greenspan 8. Dick van Dyke 9. Thomas Noguchi 10. Cleo Laine 11. Kate Keltie 12. Shannen Doherty 13. Johnny Ruffo (10 November 2023) 14. John Driskell Hopkins 15. Ed Slater 16. Piper Laurie (14 October 2023) 17. John Williams 18. Valentino (Fashion Designer) 19. Prunella Scales 20. Robert Duvall 21. Hal Linden 22. William Shatner 23. Raúl Castro 24. Alice Munro 25. Rita Moreno 26. John Astin 27. Alan Oppenheimer 28. Clint Eastwood 29. Warren Buffett 30. Bernie Ecclestone 31. Alejandro Jodorowsky 32. Frank Gehry 33. Betty Boothroyd (26 February 2023) 34. Desmond Morris 35. Tom Lehrer 36. Burt Bacharach (8 February 2023) 37. George Chakiris 38. Jorge Edwards (17 March 2023) 39. Arthur Fry 40. Don King Scoreboard: 8 February: Burt Bacharach (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker) 26 February: Betty Boothroyd (Wannamaker) 10 February: Hans Modrow (Prophet) 5 March: Mark Pilgrim (Ladyfiona) 6 March: Traute Lavrenz (Prophet) 17 March: Jorge Edwards (Wannamaker) 10 April: Al Jaffee (Wannamaker) 25 April: Parkash Singh Badal (Arghton) 8 June: Pat Robertson (Prophet) 27 July: Gary Glenn (Arghton) 26 August: Bob Barker (Ladyfiona) 1 September: Tempt One/Tony Quan (Arghton) 3 September: Ruschell Boone (Ladyfiona) 29 September: Dianne Feinstein (Prophet) 7 October: Phyllis Latour (Arghton) 14 October: Piper Laurie (Wannamaker) 23 October: Aira Samulin (Arghton) 2 November: Wei Wei (Arghton) 10 November: Johnny Ruffo (Ladyfiona, Wannamaker) 29 November: Henry Kissinger (Prophet) 5 December: Norman Lear (Prophet)