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Jonnie Irwin was a hit on my team as well Sven-Göran Eriksson as sub #3 please

As this seems to be happening for real now: Lewis Hamilton to drive for Ferrari in 2025! In some way it was bound to happen eventually but as he's been with Mercedes for 12 years after this year and will become 40 years old before the start of the 2025 season, I didn't really see it happening anymore. He'll be older than Kimi was when he left Ferrari, and he seemed to be there largely for the memes in his last years in F1. A couple of grands prix wins in the next few years now seems inevitable for Hamilton, but will he get his 8th world title? I can't really see Ferrari stepping up their game to that level yet, but I guess we'll see!

Thanks for the compliment @MariNisia. Not sure I could be called a "notable player" in terms of Cup succes yet, but it's a good motivation to reach the second round for sure!

Dutch footballer Bennie Muller has passed away aged 85. He played 426 games as a midfielder for Ajax between 1958-1970, becoming national champion five times with Johan Cruyff and coach Rinus Michels. He also was part of the Dutch National Team from 1960-1968, just before their succesful years and perhaps most importantly, part of my Dutch shadowlist in 2023.

My condolences. 85 is a good/high age but when a loved one passes away it's always a sad occassion for family members and others close. All the best.

This is already the most popular of the Residual games, with 13 players at the moment. Great to see many people playing for the first, second, third as well as fourth time. The large amount of players may however mean it'll take some years before we have a winner. 20/20 Residual: 2/9 selections still alive 20/20 +1 Residual: 4/7 20/20 +2 Residual: 7/11 20/20 +3 Residual: 13/13 (entry still possible) Additionally, all Residual games have unpicked candidates who are still alive - they are not listed above.

See the list on page 1. And next time please don't quote the whole post, thanks in advance

I'll be playing again this year

Great to see a new Residual game starting! I'll go with Julie Mandel please @Bibliogryphon the Residual 20/20 game thanks to our picks Arnold Yarrow and Loretta Ford. For reference, the first pick to go in that pool was Captain Tom, almost 3 years ago

I haven't read the Thursday Murder Club series yet, but have heard (non-spoiler) good reviews about them. Additionally, I found Osman to be quite funny on Taskmaster and other UK panel shows so could imagine that showing in his writing. Gave the first book as a christmas present to my partner, I will probably read it sometime later this year.

January 12th

25. Denis Law must surely be getting anxious after #15 and #20 passing away...

Thanks. January 13th

What they said

Also had Glynis Johns. Jim Lovell as new sub #3 please

Congrats @wannamaker and thanks once again to @Book for running this game. I think this has been my highest result in the DL prediction game so far (4th place).

As posted in the shadow list thread, I'll be away from home for a week or so to visit (some of) my partner's family. Looking forward to the time in Finland, I'm not sure if I'll be online/posting in the meantime. So I'd like to wish all of you a happy new year in advance, all the best to my fellow forum users

And my 2nd Dutch shadowlist: 1. George Kooymans 2. André Hissink 3. Ellis Brandon 4. Dries van Agt 5. Bas van Toor 6. Frits Bolkestein 7. Ton van Baars 8. Mirjam Bolle Levie 9. Kees Rijvers 10. Rob Bolland 11. Hans van den Broek 12. Bas de Gaay Fortman 13. Jan Reehorst 14. Frits Korthals Altes 15. Johan Visser 16. Rob de Nijs 17. Harry Dikmans 18. Michel van Hulten 19. Wim van Eekelen 20. Tonke Dragt 21. Jan Terlouw 22. Hans Smolders 23. Erwin Nypels 24. André Mensert Spaanderman 25. Herman Finkers 26. Pol de Beer 27. Hans Wiegel 28. Bram Stemerdink 29. Laurens Jan Brinkhorst 30. Jan Pronk 31. Koningin Beatrix 32. Hans van Manen 33. Prinses Irene der Nederlanden 34. Pieter van Vollenhoven 35. Aad van Toor 36. Maarten van Rossem 37. Lee Towers 38. Ankie Broekers-Knol 39. Foppe de Haan 40. Leo Beenhakker 41. Ernst Daniël Smid 42. Gerard Cox 43. Jan Janssen 44. Joost Prinsen 45. Theo Hiddema 46. Geert Wilders 47. Ivo Opstelten 48. Gerard Sanderink 49. Elise Boot 50. Bertus Maris subs: Hennie Huisman Han ten Broeke Ton Elias

Finishing some last lists at the airport before I'm off to Finland until the start of the new year. My 2024 regular shadowlist: 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Ethel Kennedy 3. Pope Francis 4. Jim Lovell 5. Dick van Dyke 6. David Attenborough 7. King Albert II of Belgium 8. Noam Chomsky 9. Denis Law 10. Douglas Hurd 11. Dennis Skinner 12. Sam Neill 13. Julie Walters 14. Frank Field 15. Toby Keith 16. Sandy Gall 17. Bruce Willis 18. Tom Baker 19. Franz Beckenbauer 20. Roberta Flack 21. Glynis Johns 22. June Spencer 23. Bob Newhart 24. Cleo Laine 25. Jean Marie Le Pen 26. Sonny Rollins 27. David Graham 28. Eva Marie Saint 29. William Russell 30. Norman Tebbit 31. Alan Greenspan 32. Shannen Doherty 33. Yoko Ono 34. Nigel Starmer-Smith 35. Willie Nelson 36. Stanley Baxter 37. Mel Brooks 38. Joanne Woodward 39. Prunella Scales 40. Eric Idle 41. Thomas Stafford 42. Julie Goodyear 43. Clint Eastwood 44. Rupert Murdoch 45. Esther Rantzen 46. Robert Duvall 47. Buzz Aldrin 48. Gene Hackman 49. Brian Blessed 50. Michael Caine subs Pete Murray Robert Wagner James Whale Ozzy Osbourne

January 4th

As it stands, my list will probably finish at 13/50. On paper it probably could've been a bit higher but alas, perhaps better next year. I'll post my 2024 shadowlist here in the coming days.

Merry Christmas everyone! And all the best in 2024.

Thanks for hosting this game again. I'll be participating for the second year in a row: this year's game has gone alright for me, sitting currently at #17. For 2024 I'll continue my own arbitrary rule from last year: no selections who were born in 1945 or before. Julie Walters *(Joker) Bruce Willis Phil Collins Sam Neill Michael J. Fox Louis van Gaal Michael Schumacher Lindsey Buckingham John Farnham Val Kilmer David Sadler (footballer) Liza Minnelli Linda Ronstadt Joe Kinnear Marianne Faithfull Frédéric Mitterand Ozzy Osbourne Gérard Depardieu George Howarth MP Peter Shilton Tony Lloyd MP Joe Bugner James Whale Alastair Stewart Vladimir Putin Harry Carson James Carter Cathcart Frank Marino Rob Bolland Randy Jackson (tv judge) Constantino Chiwenga Steve McMichael Patrick Murray (actor) Antero Laukkanen Linda Nolan Alan Brazil Andy Taylor (Duran Duran) Toby Keith Ronnie Coleman (bodybuilder) Derek Draper (lobbyist) Jennifer Wexton Akebono Tarō Esteban Bullrich Shannen Doherty Jason Bowen (footballer) Marcus Stewart Jonnie Irwin Sufjan Stevens Joe Doering Rob Burrow subs Bill Clinton Chris Rea Iggy Pop Elton John

Thanks for hosting this game Mr. Key, 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Ethel Kennedy 3. Jim Lovell 4. Pope Francis 5. Dick van Dyke 6. David Attenborough 7. King Albert II of Belgium 8. Noam Chomsky 9. Denis Law 10. Douglas Hurd 11. Dennis Skinner 12. Sam Neill 13. Julie Walters 14. Frank Field 15. Toby Keith 16. Sandy Gall 17. Bruce Willis 18. Tom Baker 19. Franz Beckenbauer 20. Roberta Flack 21. Glynis Johns 22. June Spencer 23. Bob Newhart 24. Cleo Laine 25. Jean Marie Le Pen 26. Sonny Rollins 27. David Graham 28. Eva Marie Saint 29. William Russell 30. Jacques Delors 31. Norman Tebbit 32. Alan Greenspan 33. Shannen Doherty 34. Yoko Ono 35. Nigel Starmer-Smith 36. Willie Nelson 37. Stanley Baxter 38. Mel Brooks 39. Joanne Woodward 40. Prunella Scales 41. Eric Idle 42. Thomas Stafford 43. Julie Goodyear 44. Clint Eastwood 45. Rupert Murdoch 46. Esther Rantzen 47. Robert Duvall 48. Buzz Aldrin 49. Gene Hackman 50. Brian Blessed subs Pete Murray Michael Caine Robert Wagner James Whale Ozzy Osbourne