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That made even me feel old and I'm only a few years older than you!

@Bibliogryphon looks like it'll be a tie between us in the second part of this game; we both have Pelé which brings our (probably final?) score to 16 hits.

17 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights -1 14 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 12 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -5 07 Blondie – Heart of Glass

This has turned out to be a very exciting final, top 3 seem to be in balance between members and are just slowly spiralling down.

At least we haven't seen a picture of him in an Adidas vest, he would have been long gone by now. Might last a few days but don't see him alive next week.

Death by Numbers 2023 entry Here's my list. I've only select people born in 1946 and later (Tim Curry being the oldest) which will probably go on to bite me in the rear during the year. While not necessary, I've decided to name my team after a little-known wisdom: One thing to remember is that not everyone makes it to seventyseven Ady Barkan Johnny Ruffo Rob Burrow Joe Doering Jo Wilson Kate Keltie Shannen Doherty Marcus Stewart Tim Lobinger Don West Esteban Bullrich Andy Taylor Akebono Tarō Michael J. Fox Neil Ruddock Rhod Gilbert Gianluca Vialli (joker) Celine Dion Michael Schumacher George Alagiah Rob Bolland Vladimir Putin Linda Nolan James Whale Val Kilmer Ryuichi Sakamoto Frank McGarvey Shane MacGowan Phil Collins Steve McMichael Antero Laukkanen Randy Jackson (tv judge) Constantino Chiwenga George Kooymans Lindsey Buckingham John Farnham Ann-Katrin Berger Princess Mette-Marit of Norway Alan Brazil Frank Marino René Weller (boxing) Julie Walters Harvey Weinstein Jim Ward (voice acting) Jim J. Bullock Charles Martinet Tim Curry Marianne Faithfull Jonnie Irwin Bajrakitiyabha (Thai princess) subs: Kanye West, Bruce Willis, Whoopi Goldberg

1. Pelé 2. Gianluca Vialli (joker) 3. Rolf Harris 4. Ruth Buzzi 5. Vanessa Redgrave 6. Jimmy Carter 7. Rosalynn Carter 8. George Kooymans 9. George Alagiah 10. James Whale 11. Bob Barker 12. Giorgio Napolitano 13. Topol 14. Frank Field 15. Glynis Johns 16. Pope Benedict XVI 17. Eva Marie Saint 18. Norman Lear 19. Randy Jackson (tv judge) 20. Andy Taylor Subs: Theodore McCarrick, Lindsey Buckingham, Pope Francis

1. Pelé 2. Gianluca Vialli 3. James Whale 4. Rolf Harris 5. Violetta Chamorro 6. Roberta Flack 7. Katharine, Duchess of Kent 8. Jimmy Carter 9. Randy Jackson 10. Glenys Kinnock Subs: Glynis Johns, Rosalynn Carter, Harry Belafonte

28 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 26 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 21 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -6 13 Blondie – Heart of Glass

Centenarians Deadpool 2023 1. Caren Marsh Doll 2. Kenneth McAlpine 3. Iris Apfel 4. Lloyd Geering 5. Brenda Milner 6. Philippe de Gaulle 7. Benjamin Ferencz 8. Arnold Yarrow 9. June Spencer 10. Wanda Półtawska 11. Lucile Randon 12. Marita Camacho Quirós 13. Ken Potts 14. Ray Anthony 15. Elizabeth Kelly subs: Fusa Tatsumi, Glynis Johns

53 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 30 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 28 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 13 Blondie – Heart of Glass -6

49 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 42 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 34 Blondie – Heart of Glass 29 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -6

After Grosheide's death, I took a look at the earliest Dutch cabinets with living members. Earliest cabinets with living members - kabinet Biesheuvel I (1971-1972) Ministers (1/16) Dries van Agt (1931), KVP; Justice State secretaries (2/13) Jan van Stuijvenberg (1928), DS'70; Interior Tjerk Westerterp (1930-2023), KVP; Foreign Affairs Jan Oostenbrink (1936), KVP; Economic Affairs - kabinet Biesheuvel II (1972-1973) Ministers (1/14) Dries van Agt (see above); Justice State secretaries (1/11) Tjerk Westerterp (see above); Foreign Affairs Jan Oostenbrink (see above); Economic Affairs - kabinet Den Uyl (1973-1977) Ministers (3/18) Dries van Agt (see above); deputy Prime Minister & Justice Bram Stemerdink (1936), PvdA; Defence Tjerk Westerterp (see above); Transport and Water Management Jan Pronk (1940), PvdA; Development aid State secretaries (6/21) Laurens Jan Brinkhorst (1937), D66; Foreign Affairs Martin van Rooijen (1942), KVP; Finance Bram Stemerdink (see above); Defence Michel van Hulten (1930), PPR, Transport and Water Management Marcel van Dam (1938), PvdA; Housing Wim Meijer (1939), PvdA; Culture After the cabinet of Joop den Uyl (1919-1987), there followed a period from 1977-1994 in which there were three cabinets of Dries van Agt (b. 1931) and another three of Ruud Lubbers (1939-2018), both members of the catholic KVP/CDA. I'll probably cover them in another post but will wait until more of them start to drop. Some notable surviving names in these earliest three cabinets: - Dries van Agt, later became PM from 1977-1982. - Laurens Jan Brinkhorst, also served as minister under Balkenende and is the father of Laurentien Brinkhorst, prince Constantijns wife. - Martin van Rooijen, later became a member of the Tweede Kamer for the elderly party 50PLUS, and is fraction leader in the Eerste Kamer/senaat since 2019. Party leader for the next elections, planned for march 2025.

To put things in perspective, wikipedia tells me she is his second cousin ... and 27 years younger than him Which means they got married at 49 and 22.

Exactly! It would be appreciated a lot more when you post about individual people and why they might be great selections. Your previous list with predictions, however fun they probably are for you since your clear liking for the genarians site, didn't really tell us anything since they were not based on insights on individual people but more, broad predictions. When you would go on and post in some of the existing threads about people you think might be good picks sinds they are old, ill, or otherwise in danger of death, I'm sure you will get more positive reactions to your contributions.

52 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 42 Donna Summer - I Feel Love -6 47 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 29 Blondie – Heart of Glass 16 ABBA – The Name of the Game

Merry christmas to my fellow DL'ers as well as your families and friends! Fijne kerst!

Politician Hans Grosheide has died at 92 on December 21. He was a member of the ARP and after its fusion with the KVP and CHU in 1980, the united party CDA. Grosheide was state secretary for education 1963-1971, member of the Tweede Kamer in 1971 and state secretary for justice 1971-1973. In total he served in six cabinets; he was the last living member of the cabinets Marijnen (1963-1965), Cals (1965-1966), Zijlstra (1966-1967) and De Jong (1967-1971). The earliest cabinet with living members is the first Biesheuvel cabinet (1971-1972).

Didn't know his name, did know his voice: Faithless was massive in the 90's and some of their songs are still played occasionally on the Dutch radio. Not the type of music I listen to on my own, but they made multiple songs that (in my opinion) really define the 90's, Maxi Jazz' voice making them stand out. For me MJ reminds me a bit of Keith Flint; leading man with a unique voice of a huge 90's act, which I knew some songs of for a long time without knowing these men themselves by name before their death.

48 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights -2 45 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -4 44 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 35 ABBA – The Name of the Game 29 Blondie – Heart of Glass 14 Gary Numan – Cars 9 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody

I'll go a bit lower just in case; 5 more deaths before 2023 (12 in total)

52 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 49 Donna Summer – I Feel Love -6 38 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 37 ABBA – The Name of the Game 37 Blondie – Heart of Glass 14 Gary Numan – Cars 9 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody As many others before me have said, there are no "bad" songs left. I like Space Oddity and Bohemian Rhapsody most of these last seven, but all of them are alright.

51 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 45 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 45 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 35 Blondie – Heart of Glass 34 ABBA – The Name of the Game 34 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 25 Gary Numan – Cars 15 ABBA – Knowing Me, Knowing You 12 T.Rex – Get It On -2 2 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive -4

Because it just goes to show, while some do, not everyone becomes a centenarian

49 Kate Bush – Wuthering Heights 44 Donna Summer – I Feel Love 44 David Bowie – Space Oddity +4 33 ABBA – The Name of the Game 31 Queen – Bohemian Rhapsody 30 ABBA – Knowing Me, Knowing You 27 Gary Numan – Cars 23 Blondie – Heart of Glass 21 Suzi Quatro – Devil Gate Drive 13 Baccara – Yes Sir, I Can Boogie -4 12 T.Rex – Get It On -2 05 The Sweet – Blockbuster