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Thanks for hosting this game again. I'll be participating for the second year in a row: this year's game has gone alright for me, sitting currently at #17. For 2024 I'll continue my own arbitrary rule from last year: no selections who were born in 1945 or before. Julie Walters *(Joker) Bruce Willis Phil Collins Sam Neill Michael J. Fox Louis van Gaal Michael Schumacher Lindsey Buckingham John Farnham Val Kilmer David Sadler (footballer) Liza Minnelli Linda Ronstadt Joe Kinnear Marianne Faithfull Frédéric Mitterand Ozzy Osbourne Gérard Depardieu George Howarth MP Peter Shilton Tony Lloyd MP Joe Bugner James Whale Alastair Stewart Vladimir Putin Harry Carson James Carter Cathcart Frank Marino Rob Bolland Randy Jackson (tv judge) Constantino Chiwenga Steve McMichael Patrick Murray (actor) Antero Laukkanen Linda Nolan Alan Brazil Andy Taylor (Duran Duran) Toby Keith Ronnie Coleman (bodybuilder) Derek Draper (lobbyist) Jennifer Wexton Akebono Tarō Esteban Bullrich Shannen Doherty Jason Bowen (footballer) Marcus Stewart Jonnie Irwin Sufjan Stevens Joe Doering Rob Burrow subs Bill Clinton Chris Rea Iggy Pop Elton John

Thanks for hosting this game Mr. Key, 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Ethel Kennedy 3. Jim Lovell 4. Pope Francis 5. Dick van Dyke 6. David Attenborough 7. King Albert II of Belgium 8. Noam Chomsky 9. Denis Law 10. Douglas Hurd 11. Dennis Skinner 12. Sam Neill 13. Julie Walters 14. Frank Field 15. Toby Keith 16. Sandy Gall 17. Bruce Willis 18. Tom Baker 19. Franz Beckenbauer 20. Roberta Flack 21. Glynis Johns 22. June Spencer 23. Bob Newhart 24. Cleo Laine 25. Jean Marie Le Pen 26. Sonny Rollins 27. David Graham 28. Eva Marie Saint 29. William Russell 30. Jacques Delors 31. Norman Tebbit 32. Alan Greenspan 33. Shannen Doherty 34. Yoko Ono 35. Nigel Starmer-Smith 36. Willie Nelson 37. Stanley Baxter 38. Mel Brooks 39. Joanne Woodward 40. Prunella Scales 41. Eric Idle 42. Thomas Stafford 43. Julie Goodyear 44. Clint Eastwood 45. Rupert Murdoch 46. Esther Rantzen 47. Robert Duvall 48. Buzz Aldrin 49. Gene Hackman 50. Brian Blessed subs Pete Murray Michael Caine Robert Wagner James Whale Ozzy Osbourne

Thanks for running this pool MPFC! Jimmy Carter *(Joker) Pope Francis Thomas Stafford Franz Beckenbauer Douglas Hurd Noam Chomsky Frank Field MP William H. Webster Ethel Kennedy King Albert II of Belgium Julie Goodyear David Graham Steve McMichael Dennis Skinner Tom Baker Jim Lovell Seiji Ozawa Kim Yong-nam Violeta Chamorro Nigel Starmer-Smith subs Denis Law Zhu Rongji Michael Tilson Thomas Julie Walters Larry Pressler

Thanks for running this pool again Alan Greenspan Bill Cosby Bruce Willis Cleo Laine Desmond Morris Edward, Duke of Kent Eric Idle Francis (sorted here because "Pope" isn't his first name) Harald V, King of Norway Jennifer Wexton Jim Inhofe Joanne Woodward Marion Ross Michael Caine Mitch McConnell Nicholas Brady Norman Tebbit Phil Collins Prunella Scales Robert Wagner Roberta Flack *(Joker) Roy Hattersley Shannen Doherty Tomiichi Murayama Vanessa Redgrave subs David Attenborough Dick van Dyke Tim Curry Chuck Grassley Dick Cheney

Thanks for running this pool DI, Good luck to the other competitors. 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Noam Chomsky 3. Ethel Kennedy 4. Arnold Yarrow 5. King Albert II of Belgium 6. Torsten Wiesel 7. Bas de Gaay Fortman 8. Frits Bolkestein 9. Pope Francis 10. Phil Collins sub David Attenborough Dries van Agt

Thanks for running this game; 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Guillermo Rodriguez 3. Frank Field 4. Josip Manolic 5. Douglas Hurd 6. Jim Inhofe 7. Daniel J. Evans 8. Dennis Skinner 9. Jacques Delors 10. Violetta Chamorro Subs Khamtai Siphandone King Albert II of Belgium Pope Francis Mitch McConnell

Thanks for hosting, good luck to all of the competitors 1. Maria Branyas Morera 2. Marita Camacho Quirós 3. Shi Ping 4. Zhang Lixiong 5. Muazzez İlmiye Çığ 6. Juan Vicente Perez Mora 7. Lloyd Geering 8. Philippe de Gaulle 9. Glynis Johns 10. June Spencer 11. James C. Floyd 12. Song Ping 13. Lily Ebert 14. Arnold Yarrow 15. Lou Conter subs William H. Webster Caren Marsh Doll Ma Shitu

And a happy birthday to your grandma, best wishes @La Tombe!

Hi Diego, just a friendly note. Your post is in Portugese: this happens to be the native tongue of 230 million people worldwide, but won't get you very far on an English internet forum

Managed to get 9/15, with multiple ones I had to guess. Could've been 10 but tricked myself by overthinking the Charlton question.

Noam Chomsky in as sub #3 please McConnell moves up to the team

To add to the discussion, it's quite rare in modern times for the last living US secretary of an administration to be this well known. Mainly due to important government posts usually going to older / experienced folks. Johnson's last secretary Ramsey Clark was more well known for his career as an attorney. Meanwhile, last survivors Willard Wirtz (Kennedy) and William P. Rogers (Eisenhower) don't stand out for their work in their respective administrations.

Out of the years after that, I'd say 2017 and 2019 could break this record. The 2020-2022 list possibly could as well but there's still a couple of names there I'm not confident about.

MacGowan was sub #2, Walters moves up to this position New sub #3 is David Attenborough

Kissinger receiving the Department of Defense's Distinguished Public Service Award in 2016. He received the award from US secretary of defense Carter, who predeceased him.

After Kissinger's death: Prince Edward Duke of Kent moves up; Julie Walters as sub #3

Just saying, tomorrow it'll be 5 years since Bush Sr. passed away...

Apparently it was King Charles. https://www.telegraaf.nl/entertainment/949185382/nederlandse-versie-endgame-uit-de-verkoop-gehaald-bevat-naam-racistische-royal

It's not impossible, but important is that Yesilgöz and the VVD have said only yesterday: we won't make Wilders PM / won't join him in a coalition if his party is the largest. GL-PvdA will also have difficulty to reach a majority, even with GL-PvdA, NSC and D66 they would need multiple small parties. This will be a long formation once again, in which even a new VVD coalition isn't completely out of the question if the PVV can't get it done.

Yeah, fuck. I still think it's gonna be difficult for Wilders to become PM. His party is projected to get 35 seats, they'll need 76 seats in their coalition for a majority. GL-PvdA will never join the PVV in a coalition, VVD and NSC have shown a lot of restraint to serve in a cabinet with Wilders. So he'll need to get 40 seats from somewhere if he even wants to have a chance of becoming PM.

And now for a more political analysis of the elections today: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/19/far-right-party-for-freedom-gaining-in-polls-ahead-of-netherlands-election - Polls indicate that about 15-18 parties will be seated in the new (150 member) parliament; most of which will struggle to get even 10 seats. - The battle for the lead seems to go between four parties: VVD: liberal-right party led by justice minister Dilan Yesilgöz-Zegerius, the party has led all Dutch governments since 2010 and has (sometimes deservedly) been criticized for major crises in the country: housing prices, income inequalities, migration overflow, declining trust in politics and much more. Anyway, most polls indicate they will lose multiple seats but they might still win the elections. Perhaps helped by their own created problems, more on that down below. GL-PvdA: an alliance of Green Left and the Labour Party, led by former European commissioner Frans Timmermans. The political left has struggled to unite voters for years, with the last Labour cabinet ending in 2002. As the only party on the left with a chance to win, perhaps they can succeed - some uncertainty however as the two parties have existed besides eachother for decades, never combining before as they've done now. PVV: right-populist, anti-immigrant party founded and led by Geert Wilders since 2006. In the last couple of elections they managed to get between 15-17 seats but had no real chance of winning because all other major parties kept them out of formation talks. Well, guess what the VVD did at the start of this campaign: the PVV has gained about 10 seats in the most recent polls because of this decision. NSC: New Social Contract, a new party led by parliamentarian Pieter Omtzigt, formerly of the christian party CDA. Promises major changes in governing policy and to improve the means of living drastically. Omtzigt founded his party at the end of summer and led the polls for a while, in the last week he is losing multiple seats in polls, amidst speculation and confusion as to whether he would like to be Prime Minister after the elections. I'd say the following seems likely: - VVD will probably win the elections, but only just with ~28 seats. GL-PvdA and PVV to come right behind them with ~26 seats each. - NSC will be the fourth largest party, somewhere at about ~20 seats. - even if Wilders manages to win the elections, the path to a PVV-led government seems difficult. Will be a large opposition party anyway.

It's Election Day in the Netherlands today! First, we say goodbye to an old friend, seen in action below as a true statesman: - Prime Minister Mark Rutte, also known as "teflon Mark" is retiring after 13 years as PM (since October 2010), having been the political leader of the VVD since 2006. While I certainly have respect for his way of dealing with national disasters like the downing of the MH-17 in 2014, as well as most of his COVID-policies, the consensus seems to be that he stuck around too long and survived multiple politicial scandals over the years without paying any significant consequences. Anyhow, a talented politician who can make deals with a whole load of other parties if needed. Also made some headlines last month as after making a visit to Netanyahyu, he also visited Abbas, the first European leader to do so since 7th October 2023. Perhaps we'll all be seeing more of him if the rumours about NATO are true. A last gem from Rutte, his meeting with Trump in 2018:

Shane MacGowan as my new sub as well, please. Sub #1 Sonny Rollins moves up

Mitch McConnell

Happy birthday!! To many more years in good health and perhaps some celebrity deaths on November 17 in the coming years