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The Old Crem

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  1. I do wonder if Biden’s support for a tik tok ban could be a mistake as if could put off many of the younger liberal voters Biden needs to defeat trump. Trump’s opposition to the ban might well also partly come from  thinking he can pick up votes as a result. 


  2. 55 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

     

    A million people marched through the streets of London in opposition. Then the bodies started coming back. And David Kelly died. And the 45-minute claim was nonsense. And the WMD never turned up. 2005 saw Labour lose 66 seats and see its majority cut by 101. In other words: saying September 11th, the War on Terror and Iraq had a material impact on the popularity of a Labour government who, up to then, had been focused mainly on (hugely successful and impactful) domestic reform is not a controversial position, and I don't know why you felt the need to "correct".

    True but only the Labour/ Lib Dem switchers were partly Iraq War based. The Tories backed the war in Iraq for example so anti Iraq war voters didn’t switch to them. 
     

    Yiu have to remmeber the Iraq War protests were led by people many people in the UK dislike even if they were anti war as well. 


  3. 5 hours ago, Spade_Cooley said:

    Not to break up the thread by discussing the king's health, but from this week's Popbitch:

     

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    @Ulitzer95 friend probably works for one these organisations. 
     

     

    Maybe once the Princess of Wales recovers and returns to work they might start preparing us for Charlie’s demise. 

    • Facepalm 1

  4. 2 hours ago, RoverAndOut said:

     

    Sorry, realise I'm posting lots in a row but looks like I missed an interesting day of discussion! Catching up. Wonder if Portillo being seen as the 'heir apparent' in 1997  is the reason the 'Portillo moment' was so shocking? Not only had the Tories been hammered but the leader-in-waiting had lost a seat with a 15,000 vote majority. Clarke would have been such an improvement, but I don't think anybody was going to unseat Labour in 2001, they were still wildly popular. It all started to change in September that year, with 9/11 and Blair's obsession with backing up the US in the War on Terror.

     

    Agree Penny is the best of the bunch in my eyes, but when her opposition consists of Suella, Kemi, Priti and Grant, what's that saying?

    The public for quite a while supported the Iraq war. https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/12483-remembering-iraq


  5. 6 minutes ago, Brad252 said:

    There are 101 reasons why a May election has been ruled out, I doubt the King potentially dying in the next 8 months is one of them.

    If anything they would rush an election to avoid him dying during the Campaign. 


  6. 7 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

     

    I agree and accept there could be more going on. It certainly fits with what happened with QEII. But, while they never confirmed she had cancer, it was clear she was slowing down and discussions started to get more morbid, although we maybe didn't believe it enough. Almost missing the Jubilee was a massive red flag in hindsight.

     

    I don't doubt the validity or veracity of your source, you have a great track record, but if he is worse than is being reported, I hope they don't keep secret until he's on his deathbed, that would be a terrible shock, especially if it's a year rather than 2. And I still hope you're wrong.

    And it’s a big difference between being 75 and 95/96. They would be a backlash if Charles died and the official line was until the end that he was ok and getting treatment and he was being shown working etc till near the end. 


  7. 1 minute ago, Comped said:

    Old age has been a standard royal family death certificate thing though. And they did never deny when one of those Royal biographers said she had it...

    In fact they invited him to the coronation. 


  8. 3 minutes ago, RoverAndOut said:

     

    We'll see what happens and I don't deny it may be hard to enforce, but from a personal standpoint, I couldn't care less. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life and was part of the first generation of uni students where smoking was banned in public places. It's becoming a thing of the past, and this will, presumably, further that objective. Vapes are the bigger issue now and God knows where that goes. Is it hypocritical? Probably. But I'm not fussed. Plus Liz Truss is speaking up in opposition of this, so I know I'm on the right side of it.

    When I was at uni less than decade ago there weee lots of smokers still gathering outside the building.


  9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=12&v=VLMBGWhnrVI&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDI4NjY0LDI4NjY2&feature=emb_logo

    The Olivier awards annual in memoriam. . 

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