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  1. A while ago there were seven threads that'll be 18 this year (made in 2003), with the subject is still alive. Now, after the death of Phil, there's only 6:



    Robert De Niro (born 1943) Oldest but healthiest?

    Richard O'Sullivan (born 1944) Suffered a stroke in 2003, doesn't seem to be in a bad condition.

    Robbie Coltrane (born 1950) Has and has had health issues for a long time, was in a wheelchair in 2019 (is he still?)

    Sharon Osbourne (born 1952) Has had cancers and other health problems

    Tony Blair (born 1953) Looks a few years older than what he is, not known to have bad health problems.

    Shane MacGowan (born 1957) Current deathlister. Seems to have been in failing health for years.


    Which one will be the last? I'd say Blair or De Niro.

  2. As film director Cecil B. DeMille (1881-1959) is mentioned in the description of this thread, I decided to check how many main DeMille actors are alive. The list isn't large:


    Samson and Delilah (1949):

    Angela Lansbury (born 1925)

    Russ Tamblyn (born 1934)


    The Ten Commandments (1956):

    Debra Paget (born 1933)

    Fraser Clarke Heston (born 1955)



    DeMille as executive producer:


    When Worlds Collide (1951):

    Barbara Rush (born 1927)

    Rachel Ames (born 1929)


    The War of the Worlds (1953):

    Ann Robinson (born 1929)


    The Buccaneer (1958):

    Claire Bloom (born 1931)



    DeMille also had cameos in:

    Glamour Boy (1941), only alive actor is Darryl Hickman (born 1931)

    Sunset Boulevard (1950), only alive actor is Nancy Olson (born 1928)

    Son of Paleface (1952), only alive actor is Sylvia Lewis (born 1931)

    The Buster Keaton Story (1957), only alive actor is Ann Blyth (born 1928)

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  3. I was thinking about the term "Gang of Four" today, and was wondering if it's been used more than two times. Yes, it has.

    So, more useless lists!

    As most of us know, the original Gang of Four was four Chinese politicians:

    Jiang Qing (1914-1991)

    Zhang Chunqiao (1917-2005)

    Yao Wenyan (1930-2005)

    Wang Hongwen (1935-1992)


    So here's a list of other political gangs of four, only 1900s ones included:

    Afghanistan, Khalqist govt ministers:

    Mohammad Aslam Watanjar (1946-2000)

    Sayed Mohammad Gulabzoy (born 1951)

    Sherjan Mazdooryar (?)

    Assadullah Sarwari (born 1930)



    First one, supporters of Zia-Ul-Haq:

    Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq (1924-1988)

    Akhtar Rahman  (1924-1988)

    Rahimuddin Khan (born 1924)

    Zahid Ali Akbar (born 1933)


    Second one, supporters of Musharraf:

    Ehsan ul-Haq (born 1949)

    Aziz Khan (born 1947)

    Mahmood Ahman (born 1944)

    Shahid Aziz (birth date unknown, probably died in 2018)



    Harlem, African-american political coalition:

    David Dinkins (1927-2020)

    Basil Paterson (1926-2014)

    Charles Rangel (born 1930)

    Percy Sutton (1920-2009)


    Seattle, radical minority activists:

    Bernie Whitebear (1937-2000)

    Bob Santos (1934-2016)

    Roberto Maestas (1938-2010)

    Larry Gossett (born 1945)


    Pro-Contra, Nicaraguan contra-founding group:

    Bernard W. Aronson (born 1946)

    Bruce P. Cameron (possibly 1942-2018)

    Robert S. Leiken (1939-2017)

    Penn Kemble (1941-2005)


    I'm pretty sure the SDP Gang of Four will outlive atleast two of these groups.

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  4. If it was 2022 and I was the committee, this would be DL:


    1. Bob Dole

    2. QEII

    3. Abdelaziz Bouteflika

    4. Betty White

    5. FW De Klerk

    6. Henry Kissinger

    7. Loretta Lynn

    8. Bob Barker

    9. Angela Lansbury

    10. Jimmy Carter

    11. Rosalynn Carter

    12. Leslie Phillips

    13. Prunella Scales

    14. Norman Lloyd

    15. Tony Bennett

    16. Kenneth Kaunda

    17. Bob Newhart

    18. Jimmy Greaves

    19. Pope Benedict XVI

    20. Imelda Marcos

    21. Yoko Ono

    22. Mel Brooks

    23. Joanne Woodward

    24. Jean-Marie Le Pen

    25. Harry Belafonte

    26. Martti Ahtisaari

    27. Raul Castro

    28. Burt Bacharach

    29. Norman Lear

    30. Dilip Kumar

    31. Eva Marie Saint

    32. Frank Williams

    33. Stanley Baxter

    34. Shane MacGowan

    35. Shannen Doherty

    36. June Brown

    37. Mohamed al-Fayed

    38. Ed Asner

    39. Jiang Zemin

    40. Norman Tebbit

    41. Ozzy Osbourne

    42. George RR Martin

    43. Bernie Madoff

    44. Mikhail Gorbachev

    45. Ric Flair

    46. Louis Farrakhan

    47. Aung San Suu Kyi

    48. Bobby Charlton

    49. David Gulpilil

    50. Derek Draper


    Probably not going to get as much hits as this year's DL in the span of one year, but I've included a couple of ones who've been discussed a lot lately and a couple of old DLees.


  5. Another Brazilian possible supercentenarian dead at 114:


    Another of these Brazilian women who appear out of nowhere and say they're 110+, usually claim to be born 1906.

    An annoying case that has been bothering me for the last few days is this Greek woman Eleftheria who claims to have been born on 12th of April 1903. I'd say that she's probably atleast 15 years less.



    The current top 10 validated oldest people seem to be indestructible.



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  6. 3 hours ago, dodrade said:

    Do we expect any of these to attend?


    30 is pretty small for the Royal Family. Not sure if there will be enough room for the Kents, Beatrice and Eugenie's husbands might stay at home too. Obviously not looking likely for Fergie either.

    I don't think they were close enough to Phil to get to top 30.

    But anyways, here they are:


    Prince Georg Andreas Heinrich of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (born 1938): Doesn't seem to like being in public much. Only a few pictures of him exist, one which I'm sure includes him from 2007. I'm not going to post it here as there are two men in the picture and I'm not 100% sure which one of them he is.


    Picture from 2017:

    Prince Maximillian Andreas Friedrich Gustav Ernst August Bernhard of Baden (born 1933): As the head of the house of Baden, he's probably the most known of the children of DoE's sisters. Looks like an hairless Stan Lee.




    Prince Ludwig Wilhelm Georg Ernst Christoph of Baden (born 1937): Another royal who doesn't seem to like publicity. Second picture of him with Phil and Liz.



    Prince Karl of Hesse (born 1937): Yet another ghoul in the family.




    Prince Rainer Christoph Friedrich of Hesse (born 1939): Actually born 1939. Unmarried and no issue.


    Princess Clarissa Alice of Hesse (born 1944): Can't find any photos of her from the last 40 years.



    Prince Georg of Hanover (born 1949): Friederike and Georg are from Sophie's marriage with Georg of Hanover (1915-2006). The picture is of the younger Georg with his mother in 1996.


    Princess Friederike of Hanover (born 1954): Another fucking mystery.


  7. 3 hours ago, dodrade said:

    I think there will be few if any children there. Presumably on Philip's side King Constantine and Queen Anne-Marie will attend? Perhaps Lady Pamela Hicks as well?

    I made a list of the children of DoE's sisters a while ago:


    Children of the sisters of DoE:



    Princess Margarita's children (1905-1981)

    Stillborn daughter (1931-1931)

    Prince Kraft Alexander Ernst Ludwig Georg Emich (1935-2004) 

    Princess Beatrix Alice Marie Melita Margarete of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1936-1997)

    Prince Georg Andreas Heinrich of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (born 1938) 

    Prince Rupprecht Sigismund Philipp Ernst of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1944-1978)

    Prince Albrecht Wolfgang Christoph of Hohenlohe-Langenburg (1944-1992


    Princess Theodora's children (1906-1969)

    Margarita Alice Thyra Viktoria Marie Louise Scholastica of Baden (1932-2013)

    Prince Maximillian Andreas Friedrich Gustav Ernst August Bernhard of Baden (born 1933) 

    Prince Ludwig Wilhelm Georg Ernst Christoph of Baden (born 1937)


    Princess Cecilie's children (1911-1937)

    Prince Ludwig of Hesse and by Rhine (1931-1937) 

    Prince Alexander of Hesse and by Rhine (1933-1937)

    Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine (1936-1939)

    Stillborn son (1937-1937)


    Princess Sophie's children (1914-2001)

    Princess Christina Margarethe of Hesse (1933-2011)

    Princess Dorothea of Hesse (1934-2001)

    Prince Karl of Hesse (born 1937) 

    Prince Rainer Christoph Friedrich of Hesse (born 1937)

    Princess Clarissa Alice of Hesse (born 1944)

    Prince Welf Ernst of Hanover (1947-1981)

    Prince Georg of Hanover (born 1949)

    (The only child of Philip's sisters who isn't 70 is Princess Friederike of Hanover (born 1954, daughter of Princess Sophie)) 

  8. DoE is by far the biggest death of the 2020s in my opinion. While it wasn't unexpected, probably most of the people on this planet have at some point heard of him. I can't think of many over 80 year olds more known than him, except for Elizabeth, Gorbachev, maybe Carter, Harald V and Juan Carlos

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  9. My list of immortal-candidates, some with more health issues and some with less, most could be considered if they're still alive in around a year or two:



    Boris Pahor (born 1913) Slovene Necropolis author, holocaust survivor still alive and going to be 108 this year.

    Arne Konrad Eldegard (born 1917) Norwegian politician. Didn't look at the camera on his 100th birthday which can be a sign of some age-related issues, but I don't know if he has any

    Eduard Kuuskor (born 1918) Estonian soldier, geologist and radio operator. Looked absolutely horrible over three years ago, speaks very unclearly. As seen in that video, needed help to stand. Looks even more skeletal nowadays.

    Vassos Lyssarides (born 1920) Probably the only Cypriot that could be considered an immortal and for a number of reasons:

    He's a very known political figure in his country and a former representative and political party leader. He's looked like a 120-year old G. Venkatasubbiah for the last decade and was hospitalized for breathing issues in February 2020, but survived and went on to celebrate his 100th.

    Hazel McCallion (born 1921) Canadian ancient politician.

    Ele Alenius (born 1925) The Finnish Lyssarides, a former parliament member and party leader, minister in the 60s and 70s and book writer. Had a stroke in 2018 and moved to a care home in 2021.

    Nikolai Ryzhkov (born 1929) Soviet official, Gorbachev's prime minister. Suffered a serious heart attack in 1990, overweight.

    Dries Van Agt (born 1931) Dutch politician and former prime minister. Suffered a stroke in 2019 but still doing great and smoking joints.

    Than Shwe (born 1933/1935) Burmese strongman and former military dictator. Has had health issues since 2006 and hasn't been seen in public for a long time despite the coup his successor organized.

    Kamuta Latasi and Tulaga Manuella (born 1936) Former Tuvaluan Gov-Gen and PM. No serious health issues but extremely old for Tuvaluans.

    Abdelaziz Bouteflika (born 1937) Algerian former dictator. Has been wheelchair-bound and frail for years and a laughingstock for Algerian twitterists because he's still alive.

    Paavo Lipponen (born 1941) Former Finnish prime minister. Young compared to most of the ones I've listed above but he's broken some records with heart-related issues: Hospitalized multiple times in the 1990s and 2000s, heart problems started in 2012, got a heart attack in 2017 and had an open-heart surgery and six bypass surgeries, hospitalized again in 2019. Wife doesn't live in the same house as Lipponen due to covid and Lipponen can't walk much nowadays.

    Margarita Terekhova (born 1942) Russian actress. Alzheimer's since 2006, some reports say that it started to affect her badly in 2011 and still not dead. Couldn't recognize any of her family members in 2019, can't speak, bedridden and her family doesn't have money for her treatment.

    Vesa-Matti Loiri (born 1945) Finnish comedian, hospitalized tens of times during the last 50 years first for using a ton of drugs, mental problems, in the 2000s and 2010s for being extremely obese, alcohol and tobacco user, was in a wheelchair for a long time in the 2010s. In new pictures, looks like he's wearing a plastic mask of himself.

    Levon "LTP" Ter-Petrosyan (born 1945) First President of Armenia. Heavy smoker, has had colorectal cancer. One to consider if he lives around five years.

    Tempt One (born 1968/1969) American graffiti artist icon extremely resisant towards ALS. He was diagnosed with it in 2003. Seems to have been bedridden for the last 9 years and communicates with his eyes. Still doing art and selling it to pay his hospital bills. As you can hear in that video from 2012 he has had near-to-death situations already back then.



  10. On 02/03/2021 at 22:44, arghton said:
    Don't know if I'm worried for no reason, but Wolff tweeted these and hasn't tweeted again in 6 days. Sounds odd that he's asking about Taiwan-related things on twitter considering that a month ago he talked about them for two hours.


    Edit: He's back

    Well, now he hasn't tweeted for 3 weeks. Must be some kind of an record for him and I bet something is wrong.

    Lester Wolff and Jyrki Kasvi are the only people whose twitter I frequently check to see if they're still alive. Kasvi has already been in hospice care for 3 months

  11. On 29/01/2021 at 20:44, arghton said:

    I decided to check how many recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom are alive from before the younger Bush's tenure. It has been awarded since 1963. Not mentioned are large groups of people.


    John F. Kennedy: None alive.

    Lyndon B. Johnson: Leontyne Price, b. 1927 (awarded 1964)

    Richard Nixon: Buzz Aldrin, b. 1930 (awarded 1969)

    Michael Collins, b. 1930 (awarded 1969)

    Fred Haise, b. 1933 (awarded 1970)

    Jim Lovell, b. 1928 (awarded 1970)

    Gerald Ford: Henry Kissinger, b. 1923 (awarded 1977)

    Donald Rumsfeld, b. 1932 (awarded 1977)

    James Watson, b. 1928 (awarded 1977)

    Jimmy Carter: Andrew Young, b. 1932 (awarded 1981)

    Ronald Reagan: None alive.

    George H.W. Bush: Lech Walesa, b. 1943 (awarded 1989)

    James Baker, b. 1930 (awarded 1991)

    Dick Cheney, b. 1941 (awarded 1991)

    Hanna Holborn Gray, b. 1930 (awarded 1991)

    Colin Powell, b. 1937 (awarded 1991, again by Bill Clinton in 1993)

    William H. Webster, b. 1924 (awarded 1991)

    Richard Petty, b. 1937 (awarded 1992)

    Bill Clinton: Joan Ganz Cooney, b. 1930 (awarded 1995)

    Bob Dole, b. 1923 (awarded 1997)

    William Perry, b. 1927 (awarded 1997)

    Robert Coles, b. 1929 (awarded 1998)

    Frances Hesselbein, b. 1915 (awarded 1998)

    Jimmy Carter, b. 1924 (awarded 1999)

    Rosalynn Carter, b. 1927 (awarded 1999)

    George J. Mitchell, b. 1933 (awarded 1999)

    Wesley Clark, b. 1944 (awarded 2000)

    Marian Wright Edelman, b. 1939 (awarded 2000)

    Jesse Jackson, b. 1941 (awarded 2000)

    Cruz Reynoso, b. 1931 (awarded 2000)

    Aung San Suu Kyi, b. 1945 (awarded 2000)


    And a few picks that I'd say are pretty frail nowadays:

    Bill Cosby, b. 1937. Awarded during Bush's tenure.

    Ruth Johnson Colvin, b. 1916. Awarded during Bush's tenure.

    Rush Limbaugh, b. 1951. Awarded during Trump's tenure, goner.

    Updated to remove George Shultz and mention the death of Rush Limbaugh.


    Also, here's a list of alive individuals or limited groups that have recieved the Congressional Gold Medal:


    1982: Beatrix of the Netherlands (born 1938)

    1986: Natan Sharansky (born 1948) and Avital Sharansky (born 1950)

    1991: Colin Powell (born 1937)

    1997: Batholomew I (born 1940)

    1998: Little Rock Nine, alive members Thelma Mothershed-Weir (born 1940), Terrence Roberts, Ernest Green, Melba Patillo Beals, Minnijean Brown-Trickey, Elizabeth Eckford (all born 1941), Charlotta Walls LaNier and Gloria Ray Karlmark (born 1942)

    2002: Hugh Shelton (born 1942)

    2003: Tony Blair (born 1953)

    2006: The Tuskegee Airmen and Tenzin Gyatso (born 1935)

    2008: Aung San Suu Kyi (born 1945)

    2009: Surviving WASP pilots (Include Deanie Parrish born 1922, Iris Cummings born 1920 and Mary Rawlinson Creason born 1924, don't know if there are others)

    Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins (born 1930)

    2010: Mohammad Yunus (born 1940)

    WW2 100th Infantry Battalion, 442nd Regimental Combat Team and Military Intelligence Service (unknown number of people)

    2013: Alive WW2 First Special Service Force members. Unknown number of people

    2014: WW2 Civil Air Patrol members

    "Monuments Men" Unknown amount alive, if still alive

    Jack Nicklaus (born 1940)

    2015: Selma to Montgomery marchers, unknown amount alive

    2016: Filipino WW2 veterans, unknown amount alive

    WW2 Office of Strategic Services, unknown amount of personnel alive

    2017: Bob Dole (born 1923)

    2018: Chinese American WW2 veterans, unknown amount alive

    USS Indianapolis crew/survivors, around 7 alive

    2019: Steve Gleason (born 1977)

    Christine Darden (born 1942)

    2020: Greg LeMond (born 1961)




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