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Mutual hits for official DL, Crowdsourced DL, and Drop 40 by year: 2016 – Martin Crowe, Nancy Reagan, Muhammad Ali, Joâo Havelange, Bhumibol Adulyadej, Fidel Castro, Zsa Zsa Gabor 2017 – Joost van der Westhuizen, Ian Brady, Peter Sallis, Errol Christie, Glen Campbell, Bruce Forsyth, Tony Booth, Gord Downie, King Michael of Romania 2018 – Billy Graham, Tessa Jowell, John McCain, Denis Norden, Stan Lee, George Bush Senior 2019 – Doris Day, John McCririck, Johnny Clegg, Robert Mugabe, Leah Bracknell, Clive James 2020 – Terry Jones, Kirk Douglas, Genesis P-Orridge, Stirling Moss, Vera Lynn, Olivia de Havilland, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Nobby Stiles, Alex Trebek 2021 – Leon Spinks, Rush Limbaugh, Prince Philip, Jimmy Greaves, Bob Dole, Betty White 2022 – June Brown, Mikhail Gorbachev, Bill Turnbull, Queen Elizabeth II, Angela Lansbury, Jerry Lee Lewis, Leslie Phillips, Pelé 2023 – Ryuichi Sakamoto, Harry Belafonte, Rolf Harris, Tony Bennett, Bob Barker, Bobby Charlton, Henry Kissinger 2024 – Glynis Johns, Franz Beckenbauer, Bob Newhart Sidenote: I noticed hits shared by official DL and Drop 40 but not Crowdsourced DL are quite rare. There have been only six such hits: Mary Tyler Moore and Jerry Lewis in 2017, Stephen Hawking in 2018, Valerie Harper in 2019, Shane MacGowan in 2023 and Derek Draper in 2024. As of 2024, the only living names who are currently shared by both official DL and Drop 40 but not Crowdsourced DL are Clint Eastwood, Willie Nelson, Prunella Scales and Buzz Aldrin.

Delors again.

Congrats Yvonne!

1987: Ozzy Osbourne (1/31)  1989: Frank Bruno, Mike Ditka, Ozzy Osbourne, Brian Wilson, David Jenkins (5/32)  1990: Mike Ditka, Rex Williams, Oprah Winfrey, Terry Waite (4/42)  1991: Leo Beenhakker (1/40)  1992: Shaun Ryder (1/37)  1993: Tony Bennett, Henry Kissinger, George Lineker, Jerry Lee Lewis (4/56) 1994: Edmund White, Holly Johnson, Peter Shilton (3/50)  1995: Holly Johnson (1/50)  1996: Mr T (1/50)  1997: (0/50)  1998: (0/50)  1999: Nick Leeson, Carly Simon (2/50)  2000: Louis Farrakhan (1/50)  2001: Liza Minnelli (1/50)  2002: (0/50)  2003: (0/50)  2004: Pervez Musharraf (1/50)  2005: Hamed Karzai (1/50) 2006: (0/50)  2007: Tim Johnson, Louis Farrakhan (2/50)  2008: Russell Watson, Hamed Karzai, Charles Taylor (3/50)  2009: (0/50)  2010: Angela Lansbury (0/50)  2011: Ali Khamenei, Dick Cheney, Michael Douglas (3/50)  2012: Nigel Lawson, Henry Kissinger, Dick Van Dyke, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi (4/50) 2013: Henry Kissinger (1/50)  2014: Wilko Johnson, Dick Van Dyke, Tony Bennett (3/50)  2015: Leslie Phillips, Henry Kissinger, Jake Roberts (3/50)  2016: Prunella Scales, Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissinger, Tommy Chong, Leslie Phillips, Sandy Gall, Paul Gascoigne (7/50)  2017: Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips, Bob Barker, Sandy Gall, Pope Benedict XVI, Emperor Akihito (6/50)  2018: Linda Nolan, Bob Barker, Prunella Scales, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips, Henry Kissinger, Dick Van Dyke, Stanley Baxter, Mel Brooks, Pope Benedict XVI, Louis Farrakhan, Ronnie Wood, Joni Mitchell, Paul Gascoigne (14/50)  2019: Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissinger, Bob Barker, Emperor Akihito, Alan Greenspan, Dick Van Dyke, Barbara Walters, Harry Belafonte, Vanessa Redgrave, Cleo Laine, Prunella Scales, Tina Turner, Shane MacGowan (13/50) 2020: Dick Van Dyke, Emperor Akihito, Angela Lansbury, Bob Barker, Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips, Tony Bennett, Harry Belafonte, Prunella Scales, Jacques Delors, Willie Nelson, Shane MacGowan, Dick Cheney, Imelda Marcos, Joanne Woodward, David Crosby, Jean-Marie Le Pen, Pervez Musharraf, David Attenborough (20/50) 2021: Dick Van Dyke, Emperor Akihito, Angela Lansbury, Bob Barker, Alan Greenspan, Henry Kissinger, Jimmy Carter, Leslie Phillips, Jacques Delors, Ali Khamenei, David Crosby, Prunella Scales, Tony Bennett, Rosalynn Carter, Dick Cheney, Harry Belafonte, BobNewhart, Barbara Walters, Pope Benedict XVI, Imelda Marcos, Yoko Ono, Linda Nolan, Joanne Woodward, Mel Brooks, Willie Nelson, Betty Boothroyd, Jean-Marie Le Pen, Raul Castro, Burt Bacharach, Stanley Baxter, Vanessa Redgrave, Shane MacGowan, Shannen Doherty (32/50)  Updated for Angela Lansbury. The 2010 list is now extinct.

RIP. She had good innings, though.

Forgive me if I sound ignorant, but isn't Katherine Jackson quite fringey name? I've seen her being suggested to the list quite often, how does she differ from the likes of Bill Gates Sr and Roberta McCain?

Agreed on the first three. Ackland seems like one of the more likely drops. He retired from acting several years ago, but at the same time he doesn't have any known illnesses and he is ranked fairly low on this years list. He is by no means a bad pick, though. Morris is 50/50, can see him staying, can see him being dropped. Still relatively active though, which suggests he is one of the weaker picks this year, and I would personally drop him (watch the oldest debutant curse strike again now...). I reckon either Tebbit or Hurd (probably Hurd) will get booted from this list if it finishes low, though both would be very risky drops. I'm not sure on MacGowan though, it feels like they've setting him up to be another bedblocker. Past self-destructive/alcoholic picks have usually been on once or twice and then dropped entirely, but MacGowan has stayed on year after year.

As healthy as the likes of Van Dyke, Brooks and Attenborough are, I really doubt any of them are going to be dropped next year, as 96+ names rarely get dropped. I believe the last time was in 2013, when Herman Wouk was dropped. Glancing the list, there aren't actually too many names that seem like easy drops for next year. Crosby, Gambon and Berlusconi are probably certs to be dropped. Cheney seems like another one that would be an easy drop, but I can easily see them keeping him on next year anyway.

Daniel Day-Lewis

I reckon the list will get 13 hits. I predict Lansbury, one of the ailing sports names (Starmer-Smith, Charlton, Law, Pelé) and two other nonagenarians will go.

Jacques Delors

Wasn't expecting her to go this year, despite her past health problems.

Outi Heiskanen dead at 85.

Kirill tests positive for COVID: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/patriarch-kirill-head-russias-orthodox-church-tests-positive-covid-2022-09-30/

Väinö Vilponiemi dead at 96.

Was eliminated on today's episode of Finland's Masked Singer. Still looks great for his age.

Donald M. Blinken dead at 96: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63003583

Jaakko Numminen dead at 93.

Won't attend Loiri's funeral due to pneumonia: https://www.seiska.fi/Kotimaa/Hannele-Laurilta-yllatysilmoitus-Vesa-Matti-Loirin-hautajaisista-Ma-en-lahde-mihinkaan

How many of each years picks eventually became DL hits, in that year or in any later year:

Surprisingly, she wasn't picked for 20/20 + 2, at least during the current round.

Angela

BBC obit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62886470

Napolitano

Staying on the Angela bandwagon.