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Is it too late for me to post my 2023 Shadow List here? If not, here goes: 1. Rolf Harris 2. Gianluca Vialli 3. James Whale 4. Henry Kissinger 5. Bob Barker 6. June Spencer 7. Jimmy Carter 8. Nigel Starmer Smith 9. Glynis Johns 10. Roberta Flack 11. Alan Greenspan 12. Jonnie Irwin 13. Tony Bennett 14. Harry Belafonte 15. Joanne Woodward 16. Bobby Charlton 17. Rob Burrow 18. Dick Van Dyke 19. Linda Nolan 20. David Attenborough 21. Eva Marie Saint 22. William Russell 23. Rosalynn Carter 24. James Earl Jones 25. George Alagiah 26. Mel Brooks 27. Andy Taylor 28. Jacques Delors 29. David Graham 30. Yoko Ono 31. Cleo Laine 32. Gudrun Ure 33. Stanley Baxter 34. Noam Chomsky 35. Sandy Gall 36. Silvio Berlusconi 37. Liza Minnelli 38. Pervez Musharraf 39. Winnie Ewing 40. Bob Newhart 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Jean-Marie Le Pen 43. Burt Bacharach 44. Shannen Doherty 45. Ted Kaczynski 46. Douglas Hurd 47. Nigel Lawson 48. Rex Williams 49. Shane MacGowan 50. Vladimir Putin

Yes that of course makes sense. Couldn’t change it yesterday due to starting work 5 minutes after the news broke.

Barbara Walters now trumps Bernard Cribbins as the most significant miss of 2022.

January - Sidney Poitier February - Jamal Edwards March - Shane Warne April - June Brown May - Dennis Waterman June - Deborah James July - Shinzo Abe August - Olivia Newton John September - Queen Elizabeth II October - Angela Lansbury November - Leslie Phillips December - Pope Benedict XVI

If Pope Benedict XVI goes before Sunday, will he surpass Queen Elizabeth II as the most significant death of 2022?

My Deathlist predictions for 2023: 1. Pope Benedict XVI 2. Pele 3. Gianluca Vialli 4. Rolf Harris 5. James Whale 6. Henry Kissinger 7. Bob Barker 8. June Spencer 9. Jimmy Carter 10. Nigel Starmer-Smith 11. Glynis Johns 12. Roberta Flack 13. Alan Greenspan 14. Jonnie Irwin 15. Tony Bennett 16. Harry Belafonte 17. Joanne Woodward 18. Bobby Charlton 19. Rob Burrow 20. Dick Van Dyke 21. Linda Nolan 22. David Attenborough 23. Eva Marie Saint 24. William Russell 25. Rosalynn Carter 26. James Earl Jones 27. George Alagiah 28. Mel Brooks 29. Andy Taylor 30. Jacques Delors 31. David Graham 32. Yoko Ono 33. Cleo Laine 34. Gudrun Ure 35. Stanley Baxter 36. Noam Chomsky 37. Sandy Gall 38. Barbara Walters 39. Winnie Ewing 40. Bob Newhart 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Jean-Marie Le Pen 43. Burt Bacharach 44. Shannen Doherty 45. Ted Kaczynski 46. Douglas Hurd 47. Nigel Lawson 48. Rex Williams 49. Shane MacGowan 50. Vladimir Putin Colour key: Keep from 2022 Deathlist Returnee from older Deathlist Debut entry

This thread is to discuss any examples of deceased celebrities whose age at death is the same number as the last two digits of the year they were born, so for example anyone born in 1958 who died at the age of 58. I would be interested to find out how many examples there are. The criteria: - Candidates must be famous enough to be eligible for their own Wikipedia page - Anyone who died in 2023 or 2022 must have been born in 1961 (age 61) or 2011 (age 11) - Anyone who died in 2021 or 2020 must have been born in 1960 (age 60) or 2010 (age 10) - Anyone who died in 2019 or 2018 must have been born in 1959 (age 59) or 2009 (age 9) And so on, until the beginning of time… EDIT: Prince example removed since he died aged 57, not 58. SECOND EDIT: odd numbered years added to take into account people who died before their birthday that year.

Ahh yes I see the misunderstanding now. Taking my original example, somebody born in 1958 could also have died aged 58 in 2017, depending on the exact month they were born. I will change the opening post to take account of this.

Some more valid examples (taken from the QEII thread) Born in 1953, died at 53 (2007) - David Ervine, Steven Pimlott Born in 1954, died at 54 (2008-09) - Anthony Minghella, Ian Anderson, Michael Majerus Born in 1955, died at 55 (2010) - Peter Christopherson

An interesting piece of trivia in the music world is that Billie Eilish was the first person born in the 21st century to get to no.1 on the UK single charts. Since this forum has considerable knowledge of birth and death dates, I’d be fascinated to delve deeper and find out the first people born in each year and decade to score a no.1 single ever since the charts were first introduced in 1952. All the more poignant since the 14th of this month will mark 70 years to the date when it all began. If any members could help me complete the list below, that would be much appreciated. I will make edits in due course. First UK no.1 artists by year of birth 1900s (decade): Mantovani 1900: N/A 1901: Louis Armstrong (1968) 1902: N/A 1903: N/A 1904: N/A 1905: Mantovani (1953) 1906: N/A 1907: Syd Dean (Stargazers 1954) 1908: Ray Heindorf (with Doris Day 1954) 1909: Hugo Winterhalter (with Eddie Fisher 1953) 1910s (decade): Jo Stafford 1910: Winifred Atwell (1954) [might have been born in 1914] 1911: Mitch Miller (with Guy Miller 1953) 1912: Paul Weston (with Jo Stafford 1953) 1913: Frankie Laine (1953) 1914: Thurl Ravenscroft (The Mellomen 1954) 1915: Frank Sinatra (1954) 1916: Perez Prado (1955) 1917: Jo Stafford (1953) 1918: Ray Charles (with Perry Como 1953) 1919: Don Cornell (1954) 1920s (decade): Al Martino 1920: Dick James (Stargazers 1953) 1921: Ronnie Milne (Stargazers 1953) 1922: Kay Starr (1953) 1923: Cliff Adams (Stargazers 1953) 1924: Alan Dean (Johnston Brothers 1955) 1925: Fred Datchler (Stargazers 1953) 1926: Marie Benson (Stargazers 1953) 1927: Al Martino (1952) 1928: Eddie Fisher (1953) 1929: Dickie Valentine (1955) 1930s (decade): Ruby Murray 1930: Johnny Grande (Bill Haley & His Comets 1955) 1931: Tab Hunter (1957) 1932: Alma Cogan (1955) 1933: Marshall Lytle (Bill Haley & His Comets 1955) 1934: Joey Ambrose (Bill Haley & His Comets 1955) 1935: Ruby Murray (1955) 1936: Tommy Steele (1957) 1937: Niki Sullivan (The Crickets 1957) 1938: Connie Francis (1958) 1939: Jerry Allison (The Crickets 1957) 1940s (decade): Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers 1940: Sherman Garnes, Jimmy Merchant, & Joe Negroni (Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers 1956) 1941: Herman Santiago (Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers 1956) 1942: Frankie Lymon (Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers 1956) 1943: Tony Meehan (Cliff Richard & The Shadows 1959) 1944: Mike Maxfield (The Dakotas 1963) 1945: Gordon Waller (Peter and Gordon 1964) 1946: Helen Shapiro (1961) 1947: Dave Davies (The Kinks 1964) 1948: Steve Winwood (The Spencer Davis Group 1965) 1949: Maurice & Robin Gibb (Bee Gees 1967) 1950s (decade): Love Affair 1950: Steve Ellis, Morgan Fisher & Mick Jackson (Love Affair 1968) 1951: Lynton Guest (Love Affair 1968) 1952: Maurice Bacon (Love Affair 1968) 1953: Jimmy McCulloch (Thunderclap Newman 1969) 1954: 1955: 1956: 1957: Marcel King (Sweet Sensation 1974) 1958: Michael Jackson (The Jacksons 1977) 1959: Terry Hall (The Specials 1980) 1960s (decade): Jimmy Osmond 1960: 1961: Randy Jackson (The Jacksons 1977) 1962: 1963: Jimmy Osmond (1972) 1964: Nicole (1982) 1965: 1966: 1967: 1968: 1969: 1970s (decade): Tiffany 1970: 1971: Tiffany (1988) 1972: 1973: 1974: Robbie Williams (Take That 1993) 1975: Lauryn Hill (Fugees 1996) 1976: Emma Bunton (Spice Girls 1996) 1977: Ronan Keating (Boyzone 1996) 1978: Nicky Byrne (Westlife 1999) 1979: Dane Bowers (Another Level 1998) 1980s (decade): Hanson 1980: Isaac Hanson (Hanson 1997) 1981: Britney Spears (1999) 1982: Billie (1998) 1983: Taylor Hanson (Hanson 1997) 1984: Gareth Gates (2002) 1985: Zac Hanson (Hanson 1997) 1986: Danny Jones (McFly 2004) 1987: Dougie Poynter (McFly 2004) 1988: Rihanna (2007) 1989: Rebecca Creighton (X Factor Finalists 2010) 1990s (decade): Pixie Lott 1990: Geneva Lane (X Factor Finalists 2010) 1991: Pixie Lott (2009) 1992: Sam Smith (2013) 1993: Niall Horan, Liam Payne, Zayn Malik, Cher Lloyd (X Factor Finalists 2010) 1994: Harry Styles (X Factor Finalists 2010) 1995: Kieran Alleyne, Jordan Lee (Artists for Grenfell 2017) 1996: Lorde (2013) 1997: Jorja Smith, Raye (Artists for Grenfell 2017) 1998: Shawn Mendes (2016) 1999: Lil Nas X (2019) 2000s (decade): Billie Eilish 2000: N/A 2001: Billie Eilish (2020) 2002: Jawsh 685 (2020) 2003: Olivia Rodrigo (2021) 2004: Gayle (2022)

Even more intriguing to think that if Nixon hadn’t stood for the 1972 presidential election, there would have only been two days between the new president’s inauguration and Lyndon’s death (inauguration day always falls on Jan 20th after the election).

One week since starting this thread and I must say I am really amazed at how much progress has been made on the master list in this time. Thank you all for your contributions. We still have a few years without any entries, so I will make another mini-list for artists born in those years who I would like to see some advances on. Hope this helps: 1954: Jermaine Jackson, Adam Ant, Annie Lennox (Eurythmics) 1960: Bono (U2), John Taylor (Duran Duran) 1966: Rick Astley, Janet Jackson 1967: Vanilla Ice 1968: Kylie Minogue, Will Smith, Celine Dion 1969: Mariah Carey, Bobby Brown 1972: Liam Gallagher (Oasis)

I reckon he’ll go next month. December seems to be a popular month for American politicians dying with George HW Bush, Bob Dole and all that.

For reference, here is a list of all Harry Potter actor deaths for major characters as of 8/11/22. 2002 Richard Harris (Albus Dumbledore) 2013 Richard Griffiths (Vernon Dursley) 2014 Roger Lloyd Pack (Barty Crouch Sr) 2016 Alan Rickman (Severus Snape) 2017 John Hurt (Mr. Ollivander) Robert Hardy (Cornelius Fudge) 2018 Verne Troyer (Griphook) 2021 Helen McCrory (Narcissa Malfoy) 2022 Robbie Coltrane (Rubeus Hagrid) Leslie Phillips (voice of Sorting Hat) EDIT: 29/9/23 2023 Michael Gambon (Albus Dumbledore #2)

Unfortunately not. That song was released in 2013 and Sam Smith beat it to #1 by a month.

Sally Lindsay from St Winifred’s School Choir (1980) trumps him though, unless she was of course uncredited.

Updated version of list to include years in which artists reached #1. Just need to check whether these are all definitely correct before I update the master list in the OP

That might be an excellent idea for a separate topic - Last people by year of birth to score a No.1. Probably better to focus on this one first though.

To make researching easier, I’m going to post a series of separate mini-lists of all UK No.1 scoring artists by year of birth, then we can use the Offical Charts archive to cross-reference from this list and determine the first chart topper from each cohort, which I will add to the master list. Starting with the 1986-2004 cohorts: 1986: Danny Jones, Alex Turner, Andy Nicholson, Matt Helders, Ellie Goulding 1987: Dougie Poynter, Joss Stone, Sophia Wardman, LadBaby 1988: Rihanna 1989: Rebecca Creighton, Lauren Bennett, Taylor Swift 1990: Geneva Lane, Rita Ora 1991: Pixie Lott, Joe McElderry, Ed Sheeran, Anne Marie 1992: Sam Smith 1993: Niall Horan, Liam Payne, Cher Lloyd, Ariana Grande 1994: Harry Styles, Justin Bieber 1995: Jessica Smith*, Kieran Alleyne, Jordan Lee 1996: Lorde, Dua Lipa 1997: Jorja Smith, Raye 1998: Shawn Mendes, Louisa Johnson 1999: Lil Nas X 2000: 2001: Billie Eilish 2002: Jawsh 685 2003: Olivia Rodrigo 2004: Gayle * Uncredited or disputed

Still useful information though. This data can be used to collate and compare different artists/musicians who share the same birth year, then the first out of that cohort to score a No.1 can be picked for the OP list’s entry for that year. Carry on researching!

I think you’ve misunderstood the topic title. I’m looking for the first artist born in a particular year to have a No.1 single, rather than the first No.1 single of each year with that artist’s birth date. Hence the Billie Eilish example in the opening post.

As i read this post, Micky Dolenz would claim the 1945 spot since he got to No.1 before Marmalade. Same with John Lennon trumping Tom Jones for 1940.

Spice Girls still topped the charts before Boyzone, therefore Bunton would take the honour of first No.1 from the class of ‘76.

Very good Was Jessica Smith actually credited on the Teletubbies hit? If so that would make her the youngest person ever to score a UK no.1, which to my understanding I had always assumed was Jimmy Osmond.

For additional trivia, here are the years and ages at which these artists had their first UK no.1 single: Al Martino: 1952 (25 yrs) 2Pac: 2005 (34 yrs posthumously) Aaliyah: 2002 (23 yrs posthumously) Britney Spears: 1999 (18 yrs) Rihanna: 2007 (19 yrs) Ed Sheeran: 2014 (23 yrs) Sam Smith: 2013 (21 yrs) Ariana Grande: 2014 (21 yrs) Justin Bieber: 2015 (21 yrs) Lorde: 2013 (17 yrs) Shawn Mendes: 2016 (18 yrs) Lil Nas X: 2019 (20 yrs)