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I don't disagree that Senna was an exceptional racing driver, I'm simply pointing out that a racing driver dying isn't particularly surprising, considering the dangerous nature of the sport. Particularly back in Senna's day, when it still was a sport. Why "tragic death"? Is there another kind?

May I suggest a trip to Southwold in Suffolk, and a pint of Adnams. Then on to Bury for a nice pint of Greene King's Abbot Ale at the Dog and Partridge.

A fine eclectic palette of beers there, Mr. J. And also an explanaition for why I don't like Tetley's bitter, never having been within 20 miles of Leeds. My own preferences for Northern Beers are Castle Eden and Camerons Strongarm, both as you say best savoured in their native environs. There are a couple of decent breweries in Suffolk though, and even in Kent. What a shame Beck's is the only German on your list, it being one of the least interesting, though most popular ones. A good rule of thumb is: When in Rome... Not that you would catch me drinking the local brew here. Hannen Alt. Like Tennent's Export with all the character removed. They also brew Carlsberg under license, but it isn't the same.

Risky business though, motor racing. Or did he die unexpectedly whilst enjoying a choc-ice in his back garden? I forget.

In fact, reading more closely Shakespeare's porter in Macbeth is talking about "drink" in general, by which I presume he means the alcoholic variety. Whether he means beer, wine or something else would depend on whether Shakespeare was realistically depicting Scotland in the year 1040 and whatever they drank there back then (more likely Scottish beer than wine), or whether he meant something more familiar to a 17th Century audience which could have been wine, English beer or something else. Perhaps It was only Scottish beer from the 11th Century which had sexually debilitating characteristics. If Hein knows this for sure, it might go some way to explaining his prejudice against Scottish traditional music. I spent about four minutes looking for references to the problem in Goethe and Schiller but drew a blank, sadly. Belgian beers are grand, though not if you are very thirsty!

Ah, you see Shakespeare wrote Macbeth before 1862. So he couldn't have known about subsequent developments in brewing technology. In Germany they have brewed beer the same way since 1516. Macbeth was probably written between 1603 and 1610. So German beer should still have the same effects mentioned in Shakespeare, or something happened in 1862 or thereabouts to the nature of human beings which changed the way beer affects them. Or to the ingredients of beer. Gloomy, do you drink German beer as a rule, or some other kind? I know Hein is partial to the Dutch stuff. Mind you, he dislikes bagpipe music as well.

Hear, hear. Except for number 2, which is a bit on the conciliatory side.

"Marry sir, (it stimulates) nose painting, sleep and urine. Lechery, sire, it provokes and unprovokes; it provokes the desire but takes away from the performance" as the man said.

It takes a special kind of idiot to admire Charlton Heston.

Warsteiner on this occasion though I drink Kölsch for preference. I didn't necessarily mean financially profitable unless you play and win at poker or some other gambling game at the same time as drinking. And beer is still cheap enough in spite of those who grow fat at our expense. No wait ! It is we who are growing fat at our own expense. Well you know what I mean. Consuming beer stimulates the imagination, creativity and all that thus increasing the potential for amassing fabulous material wealth. Worth a try anyway. Goblins could be arranged, big or little, though you may need something a bit stronger than that beer first. The song sort of just rambles on however you want it to really.

I would like to announce that I too am currently enjoying a refreshing glass of beer. Time profitably spent, I'm sure Hein would agree, drinking beer. A beer Song: Beer, a drink I like to drink Ray my mate he likes beer too, Me, I'd like a glass of beer Fa ther likes his beer as well, So I think I'll have some beer. La ger is a kind of beer Tea is not as nice as beer, etc.....

It's a Robert Rankin thing. My second-favourite author. Smokes and drinks a lot, but no sign of him dying soon. Pleased to hear you are drinking beer Hein. A worthy and profitable pastime. Best regards to you and your fan.

And stay out!

Take it easy on the lashings. You might set Mr. Josco off again.

Mate of mine had a Blue Peter badge. All the blue came off after a few days and he was left with a plain white shield. Bloody swiz. Is Biddy Baxter dead yet?

I have never seen this lady before. Aha! The old "She was already dead when I arrived" routine, Dr Josco?

Miss Janeo, you are obviously far too clever for this forum. Taking my post in context, you will see that it was directed at an individual who does not enjoy the same level of intellect as you, or indeed any intellect at all. It was intended to be sarcastic. Thank you for spoiling it. PS: Are you in some way related to our dear friend Mr. Josco? Your names are similar in many ways. PPS: On the subject of names, I see Hein has a new fan. PPPS: I like your avatar.

Dr Shipman in particular.

My late grandmother had a signed commendation with a photo from Margaret Thatcher in honour of a lifetime's voluntary service to Hartlepool Conservative Association. She kept it face-down at the bottom of a cardboard box in the (locked) cellar with a bio-hazard sign on the door. What happened to it after her death, I do not know. Perhaps my father still has it, but probably not. As for me, for all that envelope-stuffing I did in 1979, I didn't get so much as a stale packet of Spangles from Mrs. T. Hence perhaps, my current aversion to the old ruca.

Should be: "Whom will it strike next?" Unless Yoda is suggesting that The Who are next in line for a death curse.

Oh brilliant! 12 women, one nipple.

Well they aren't that pretty either, if that's what you are getting at. Nor is the German team for that matter though at least they have a goalkeeper who is more that 4 foot 6 high. And no, they don't swap shirts after the game.

Fascinating! I had no idea that Portugal has had such an interesting recent history. Bloody awful women's football team though. Disgracefully bad!

Help ma boab! Come on now folks. we are a pretty erudite bunch. There must be somebody among us who has at least a basic knowledge of Gibberish. Hein? You know some Dutch I believe?