Monoclinic

I was so interested I fell asleep. Last thing I remember is Dimbleby trying to get Straw to answer yes or no to a question about whether the rise of the BNP was due to failed Labour policies on immigration. The impression I got is he (Griffin) counts the leading zeros or has some kind of affliction that can't stop him smirking. Didn't Hitler have a policy on the disabled? Do the BNP as well?

Bush was an odious turd, who (the second time around) was democratically elected. He also authorised the killing of many innocent Iraqi and Afghan citizens alongside those allies killed in friendly fire. I digress. Whilst I don't agree with him I believe he has the right to speak.* However (IMHO) whoever said 'What is worse than being talked about? Not being talked about.' seems pertinent to me right now. If the majority of us are not happy with his ideas why give him additional airtime perpetuating his cause? Perhaps we could try the 'ignore the naughty child' treatment, see where that gets us. *In fact there's an out of work voice of Gerry Adams actor we could use. Then it'd only be the deaf lipreaders he'd be able to canvass. Edit - Oscar Wilde I believe is who I'm thinking of, even if the quote is not word for word correct.

Is the IQ test in fact all just a crock of sh*te? I noticed the ones on Fuckfacebook are far easier to score higher in. There are far too many rogue testers out there, perhaps disgusted has fallen foul of one? When I was at uni (I think Christiaan Huygens was still with us) I did a comparison of some 20 different IQ tests on the same sample of students. The results made clear that: Results correlate strongly Nevertheless, the same student often scores a difference of 10 to 20 IQ points between different tests Tests almost always have a strong cultural bias Most tests are testing language skills rather than intelligence Many tests are testing knowledge rather than intelligence Another observation was that students tended to score better in tests taken later, which implies that the results of IQ tests can be improved by training. Since I took the lot, I now have an Official IQ in the uppermost percentile. There's no such thing as general intelligence. As a matter of fact, if you ask a psychologist what intelligence actually is, chances are that he'll start with something like: "Ehrm, that's a good question.", which is scientific for: "I haven't the foggiest." Intelligence, like al human talents, is multidimensional and modular. Trying to express intelligence in a single number is meaningless. That said, IQ is a reasonably good predictor of learning ability. regards, Hein Interesting point about many tests testing knowledge rather than intelligence. Always considered knowledge to be 99% of intelligence. Anyway nice to see someone on this forum so expensively and usefully eductaed as yourself . Knowledge (viz. being a smartarse) can be trivially memorised; understanding, reasoning, problem solving, abstract thinking etc. is a whole different kettle of fish IMHO. A kettle which doesn't constitute 1%. This is probably why we have a generaration of school leavers with the highest attainment grades possible (parrot fashion learning) yet are unable to apply themselves. Ahhh... the knee-jerk reaction I was expecting from someone. I would define knowledge as things that I have learned. Now think carefully and try to think of some "intelligent" thing that you have done which does not rely 99% on things that you have already learned. Not easy is it. All those things you mention are important of course but things learned are the most important. And by the way I don't consider those things learned at school to be the most important. Intelligence is a qualiy that is learned, strengthened and refined much earlier in life. I think this stems back to MH's comment about asking someone to define intelligence. As something can only ever be proven wrong you are entitled to your view as I am mine. The fact that you say and I put it to you that either you knew all about algebra, evolution, Shakespeare, oh and of course LIFE by the time you were 4 or that in fact you know f'uck all now. Oh and by the way, I get the point of your question but unfortunately for you you've picked the wrong person to ask. I am a research chemist so more than 1% of the things we do are out of curiosity. (So that set-up/reaction etc. works as per what I have learnt but what if I did x,y or z what would happen then, would the outcome be an improvement?). If you don't experiment you'll never know Risk is another element. In certain professions people take risks regulary and achieve "intelligent" things.

Is the IQ test in fact all just a crock of sh*te? I noticed the ones on Fuckfacebook are far easier to score higher in. There are far too many rogue testers out there, perhaps disgusted has fallen foul of one? When I was at uni (I think Christiaan Huygens was still with us) I did a comparison of some 20 different IQ tests on the same sample of students. The results made clear that: Results correlate strongly Nevertheless, the same student often scores a difference of 10 to 20 IQ points between different tests Tests almost always have a strong cultural bias Most tests are testing language skills rather than intelligence Many tests are testing knowledge rather than intelligence Another observation was that students tended to score better in tests taken later, which implies that the results of IQ tests can be improved by training. Since I took the lot, I now have an Official IQ in the uppermost percentile. There's no such thing as general intelligence. As a matter of fact, if you ask a psychologist what intelligence actually is, chances are that he'll start with something like: "Ehrm, that's a good question.", which is scientific for: "I haven't the foggiest." Intelligence, like al human talents, is multidimensional and modular. Trying to express intelligence in a single number is meaningless. That said, IQ is a reasonably good predictor of learning ability. regards, Hein Interesting point about many tests testing knowledge rather than intelligence. Always considered knowledge to be 99% of intelligence. Anyway nice to see someone on this forum so expensively and usefully eductaed as yourself . Knowledge (viz. being a smartarse) can be trivially memorised; understanding, reasoning, problem solving, abstract thinking etc. is a whole different kettle of fish IMHO. A kettle which doesn't constitute 1%. This is probably why we have a generaration of school leavers with the highest attainment grades possible (parrot fashion learning) yet are unable to apply themselves.

Carole Vordeman has a large one, apparently, however she only got a Douglas Hurd, allegedly. Then there's Banshees who'd have us believe he has a large one too. Is the IQ test in fact all just a crock of sh*te? I noticed the ones on Fuckfacebook are far easier to score higher in. There are far too many rogue testers out there, perhaps disgusted has fallen foul of one? I think it's no more than a measure of confidence for those who feel they need to know their IQ. Howard Gardner suggests that there are many types of intelligence. For example David Bekcham might be said to have a high footballing IQ. Yes, like Fred West had a good DIY IQ and Hitler had a good road building IQ. It all depends on where you're concentrating your efforts. Idiot. Do you have a high w'anking IQ then?

Carole Vordeman has a large one, apparently, however she only got a Douglas Hurd, allegedly. Then there's Banshees who'd have us believe he has a large one too. Is the IQ test in fact all just a crock of sh*te? I noticed the ones on Fuckfacebook are far easier to score higher in. There are far too many rogue testers out there, perhaps disgusted has fallen foul of one?

Good to see you move with the times there, Disgusted. Seeing how this fancy new-fangled Internet is quickly filling up with vulgar filth, perhaps you might like to investigate another new source of home-based entertainment. I believe it's called tele-vision or somesuch. Better be quick though, before any family-oriented music-hall type light entertainment is taken over by soft core porn-filled, US-centric, violence-based crime pseudo-dramas. [edit]D'oh. Too late. How typical that you should pick on television as your example of home-based entertainment rather than a good book or newspaper. Speaks volumes. For your information I did rent a television to see what it was like but returned it the next day despairing at the poor quality of the broadcast material. I picked television as an example of an entertainment system that "has been invented" recently. Unless you really are some sort of complete ignoramus, you would probably already be aware that the printed word was not invented recently. And if you think television is my home-based entertainment method of choice, then this speaks volumes for you. I can assure you it is absolutely not. Mind it depends on what timescale, time being relative or summat. Early work on transmitting visual images began in the late 19th century perhaps before JLB was born. To me and my 30ish years that's a long time, I wouldn't call it a recent invention. However as you say the printed word, Gutenberg or Chinese, had been around far longer, though on the scale of the formation of the Earth, evolution of Man etc perhaps it is a recent invention. Perhaps the Higgs Boson will come to sort it out. By the way, not wanting to kill your avatar or anything but what is your home-based entertainment method of choice? Sharing might give LFN something to go on ;-)

Happy birthday Han! I hope you are enjoying your time on the mainland!

You can keep the copy of Razzle, it might help you regards an earlier request. However going on phonetics I'd hazard a guess they meant originally not original. Arijaber, Norwich

Correct, now f'uck off. Damn, Man also 'invented' the concept freedom of speech, foiled at every turn. Welcome Disgusted, your views are much appreciated.

Exhibit A '...colder than one can bear.' Exhibit B '...your forever.' He has also had several months to work on this 'comeback' post. 2009 has been a year for comebacks, Michael Jackson, Boyzone, Banshees. What's wrong with "colder than one can bear"? Apart from being clumsy, affected and generally hideous I mean. And anyway, BS always wrote "then" when he meant "than". Probably nothing, sorry. I still think it's him, evidence or not (can I play the woman's intuition card please?). The vision of a naked CD shivering in Portugal might put you off your calamares but there are expressions in there which, to me, spank of Banshees. By the way, was Hofmeister a one can bear?

Exhibit A '...colder than one can bear.' Exhibit B '...your forever.' He has also had several months to work on this 'comeback' post. 2009 has been a year for comebacks, Michael Jackson, Boyzone, Banshees.

Just remembered Rob Collins, armed robber and ex-Charlatans keyboardist qualifies as does Ben Hollioak/Hollioake/Hollyoak, one time cricketer and inspiration behind a Chester based soap.

Life imitating art? Shame he didn't have his paint tins out during his crash, could have created a bit more filthy lucca for his estate.

Ah Banshees, we've been expecting you. LEGAL DISCLAIMER: If you are not him/her, your drivel is of equal standing.

Hungry Hippos but it all depends on whether she spits or not. What is FPS? I've worked out the RPG, role-playing I think. I guess it depends whether she swallows or not but FPS, WTF? Perhaps http://www.femmesprevoyantes.be/FPS/QuisommesNous/, even in French I think you get the drift.

Windy moans, as Devon groans. Drabble died, a tractor fried. Banshees folds, his pizzas sold? honez the pedant or a penile implant. Fellatio's c*ckspanner needs bedside manner. Godot's monkeys or Han's tdonkleys. Patrick Moore on posting whores. Funcity Maryport, the northern stalwart. Lady Grendel, mod who attends to all, This site's best bits but please no more random plebrity lists.

I actually pinched it from here in the first instance. I just had to find another link as the other one is now dead. Ah, the circle of squid!

Quite and I accept your apologies on behalf of the gay squid community for forgetting their plight. Apparently SQUID stands for Swimming Queers United in Denver so you might have to travel far and wide to reclaim your word Godot. Will we also be reclaiming gay to mean happy, jolly etc as well?

Blimey! Is that like the last chance saloon, or is the mortality rate in Manchester significantly higher than the rest of the UK?

I think that all depends on whether the curse of death Dr. DDT has highlighted their plight or not.

What a shocker. Drugs is my guess. Who is Stephen Gately? Isn't this more significant, death by gingervitis?

We both lie silently still In the dead of the night Although we both lie close together We feel miles apart inside Was it something I said or something I did Did my words not come out right Though I tried not to hurt you Though I tried But I guess thats why they say Every rose has its thorn Just like every night has its dawn Just like every cowboy sings his sad, sad song Every rose has its thorn I listen to our favorite song Playing on the radio Hear the dj say loves a game of easy come and easy go But I wonder does he know Has he ever felt like this And I know that youd be here right now If I could have let you know somehow I guess Though its been a while now I can still feel so much pain Like a knife that cuts you the wound heals But the scar, that scar remains I know I could have saved a love that night If Id known what to say Instead of makin love We both made our separate ways But now I hear you found somebody new And that I never meant that much to you To hear that tears me up inside And to see you cuts me like a knife I guess

Any DLers want to take OoO's place? Just to add that once you get to know everything (we can give you a crash course on its nuances) it takes maybe ten minutes of your time in total per week, more if you want to write press releases to earn money! I think Ocky's just had a spot of bad luck, however DWB was talking about a team boost to the bottom team each season so that might level things out. Please come join the fun and get beat by a bunch of ladies!

Sacrebleu, Allahu Akbar alors!