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Here's another legacy of Suharto that many people forget: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/843300.stm suharto rainforest - Google Search http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/843300.stm BBC News | SCI/TECH | Indonesia's fires 'Suharto's legacy' http://rainforests.mongabay.com/20indonesia.htm Indonesia: Environmental Profile http://www.orangutan.com/orangutans_avoid.html The Orangutan Conservancy: Orangutans & the Rainforest: Items to Avoid http://singabloodypore.rsfblog.org/archive...ut-suharto.html Just so that we are all clear about Suharto : Singabloodypore http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...22/ai_n12705805 Activists take fight to save Indonesian rainforests to Tilbury | Independent, The (London) | Find Articles at BNET.com

http://www.euronews.net/images_news/W300px...oir-suharto.jpg http://www.euronews.net/index.php?page=inf...66887&lng=1

holy sh*t. he died barely a DAY after "being able to breathe on his own and being able to be released after 2 days"

f**k i don't want to lose any more sleep over this...

tuesday: "On January 8, 2008, Suharto's health worsened as doctors diagnosed him of anaemia and low blood pressure due to heart and kidney complications. There was internal bleeding, fluid on his lungs, blood in his faeces and urine which caused haemoglobin drop." thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat wednesday: suharto improves slightly thursday: suharto "not good" friday: "Suharto's "condition is better than yesterday (Thursday) morning but worse than last night, so still unstable." saturday-sunday: Suharto improves monday: suharto has problems with digestive system tuesday: nothing new wednesday: suharto's infections spread, suharto deteriorates thurssday: suhardo eats biscuit friday: suharto breathing on own

tuesday: "On January 8, 2008, Suharto's health worsened as doctors diagnosed him of anaemia and low blood pressure due to heart and kidney complications. There was internal bleeding, fluid on his lungs, blood in his faeces and urine which caused haemoglobin drop." thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat wednesday: suharto improves slightly thursday: suharto "not good" friday: "Suharto's "condition is better than yesterday (Thursday) morning but worse than last night, so still unstable." saturday-sunday: Suharto improves monday: suharto has problems with digestive system tuesday: nothing new wednesday: suharto's infections spread, suharto deteriorates thurssday: suhardo eats biscuit

too bad http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80122102502.htm will come too late for him

They've treated Suharto's symptoms - his bleeding, his low hemoglobin levels, his fluid in his lungs. But yet have they even addressed the REASON why Suharto has such symptoms? He's had such problems for years - it's not unrealistic to expect that he'll have them again if he doesn't stay in the hospital or get a pacemaker. It's entirely conceivable that he'll be back

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/...y-good--doctors lmao what the hell - have they forgotten precisely the reasons why they admitted Suharto into the hospital in the first place? EDIT: well apparently they treated those conditions WHILE his organs were barely functional - i suppose it's funny when machines are supporting your body. but he still needs a pacemaker upgrade. and his kidneys - are they improving at all?

holy sh*t............. I have never seen another case in which the media seemed so certain that the person was so close to death, and yet he was able to recover. this might be a first...

tuesday: "On January 8, 2008, Suharto's health worsened as doctors diagnosed him of anaemia and low blood pressure due to heart and kidney complications. There was internal bleeding, fluid on his lungs, blood in his faeces and urine which caused haemoglobin drop." thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat wednesday: suharto improves slightly thursday: suharto "not good" friday: "Suharto's "condition is better than yesterday (Thursday) morning but worse than last night, so still unstable."

tuesday: "On January 8, 2008, Suharto's health worsened as doctors diagnosed him of anaemia and low blood pressure due to heart and kidney complications. There was internal bleeding, fluid on his lungs, blood in his faeces and urine which caused haemoglobin drop." thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat wednesday: suharto improves slightly thursday: suharto "not good"

aka there are no (immediate) threats to his life anymore. the news reports don't even say whether he's been "cured" of something or not. we're all left in the dark. What the hell happened to all his past conditions? it seems like they've all disappeared. the news treat him as better off than he was PRIOR to suffering multiple organ failure now (he was described as with "little hope" PRIOR to multiple organ failure). and there has been no explicit mention of him not being "very critical" anymore lmao i am laughing so hard at this

hahahahaha the trend continues tuesday: "On January 8, 2008, Suharto's health worsened as doctors diagnosed him of anaemia and low blood pressure due to heart and kidney complications. There was internal bleeding, fluid on his lungs, blood in his faeces and urine which caused haemoglobin drop." thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat wednesday: suharto improves slightly == and wtf happened to suharto's pneumonia? and wtf happened to "very critical" condition? or to "suharto has little hope"?

meh, for the last few days, whenever I pick up the first traces of reluctant consciousness upon waking up, I am reluctant to get up and to check the updated news on Suharto (especially on Monday morning) though i'm a US West coaster, so I actually get the update on him late in the night. All I know is that he's not dead, so long as the news isn't updated in the 24 hr interim and I'm worried about the possibility of antibiotic resistance since antibiotics have been applied to him for quite some time now. already "suharto" has catapulted into 2nd place among my "most frequently googled items" and "Suharto" as catapulted into 6th place

who predicts that the septic bacteria of suharto will evolve antibiotic resistance?

I agree

Suharto is a lot like the pope - you can't trace either of their conditions to the top leading causes of death (aka related to artery clotting or cancer) - they just die by becoming really really weak

thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly tuesday: suharto develops sepsis and irregular heartbeat and as a comparison... sepsis:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/id...K30360420080114 improves (slightly) we're seeing a pattern thursday: suharto improves slightly friday: suharto suffers multiple organ failure saturday: suharto improves slightly sunday: suharto very critical monday: suharto improves slightly (again) i kept on googling suharto today (hah, I was sick today, and my temperature was unstable for a while). I felt that he wasn't dead since that would otherwise be reported in the media. (his health updates come every 24 hrs)

ironically just 2 hours ago or so i was trying to google up both pinochet and lady bird johnson, who both seemingly improved before dying. i think "50-50" is overly optimistic at this point (especially considering that we know very little about the physiology of eldery patients - we still can't even make semi-accurate prognoses). i find it ironic that they "just" discovered an obstruction in his airway. suharto is unfortunate for having so many ailments waiting to be discovered before they actually are. http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihun7i...7px1EQ4xjLkbH7A suharto's heart briefly stopped a few days ago. and now it's even weaker.

Suharto "very critical" and i thought they were less than fifty-fifty even before this.

Suharto stable: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihun7i...7px1EQ4xjLkbH7A