msc

Since he's been named, Puckett is actually on my shortlist as he showed up for some ceremony or other earlier this year and looked half dead already.

Shortlist getting its annual gubbing so badly I'll be down to Linda Nolan and the Pope by January 1st.

Essex police confirmed it. Horrible.

Robert Bradford was shot at a surgery in 1981. UUP MP.

If you ask me you need to be wrong in the head* to cross the "wound/kill someone" divide in general, outside of certain conditions (ie self-defence for example). Amess not an MP I normally agree with often but that's frankly irrelevant right now. Hopefully he recovers though it sounds quite grim tbh. *And of course this isn't a "mental health = excuse" comment before anyone jumps in. Millions of us have mental health issues and manage to not go round trying to murder other people after all.

The oldest state leaders page still exists as of right now (the debate lumbers on) but one of the voices on Wiki in favour of deleting it and other lists is a Random Canadian. This Toast's old pal?

Journalist Ally McLaws treatment was going well in September, after the cancer spread to his brain and he became wheelchair bound, but since then he had a reaction to chemo, caught a lung infection and is now in hospital with covid. Which is bit of a downturn. Picture from last month.

Hmm, I just checked it and it worked fine on my mobile, I'm afraid it may be specific to your mobile or browser.

Alvin Rakoff did this interview with BBC radio in August. He sounded quite good for his age tbh. The Film Programme - Alvin Rakoff - BBC Sounds

Take care. I had norovirus just before covid hit the UK (timing, eh?) and it took me a good month or so to even begin to recover.

Hello, Willz, its your old pal Captain Boring here. I'm afraid it's not a surprise as we've known about the electoral register for a few years now. Also, constituency numbers are based around population (roughly 70, 000 potential voters per seat iirc but it goes up and down in some places) and the English have bred far faster than us (and both of our lot more than the Welsh!). London in particular is gaining MPs because the population down there increases at a swift rate. So its actually nowt to do with shafting the north, and all to do with shagging. Or not enough of it, apparently!

It hasn't? There's the option to log in but you can just ignore it and read? Its Iplayer which is login only now (government pressure related).

Is that a hint for the DL Cmme? Don't worry, Biblio, if needed I can come up with 5 categories.

Yeah, Hunt was the first choice - it was between Hurst and Greaves for the second spot up front. Mea culpa.

Don't worry its me with a pole position in a deadpool. I think we've all learnt by now this is when my team shit the bed and everyone else scores instead!

Had Norman Lloyd died aged 80 we probably wouldn't have spoken much of him as he'd have died about a decade before this forum opened! (His role in Dead Poets Society would have gotten him remembered as much as Jessica Tandy who was roughly the same age, was in a big film of the late 80s, and isn't mentioned much round here, due to the being dead for a quarter of a century lark...)

Suffered enough this year thank you ver.... oh, in this game? Cool!

Can't think what inspired us all to pick the oldest living famous person.

Especially not under the delete all articles guy!

SAINT AND GRIEVE-SIE 14/50 19th September 2021 Jimmy Greaves, the highly popular former English international footballer and broadcaster, has died aged 81 after years of poor health. A teenage sensation, Greaves debuted for Chelsea aged 17 and had scored 124 league goals by the time he was 20! One of the few players to have played for both Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur, his time at Spurs saw him score another 220 league goals, where he also won the Cup Winners Cup and two FA Cups. His time in London (he also played for West Ham) sandwich a short run at AC Milan, which Greaves later called a failure, but a scoring failure for Jimmy Greaves was only scoring 9 goals in 10 games… For England he scored 44 goals, and appeared in 2 World Cups, though his biggest disappointment was being dropped for the World Cup final in 1966 in favour of Roger Hunt. The disappointment reflected in his international career, as Alf Ramsay felt he had better options up front than England’s greatest ever goal machine, and Jimmy Greaves had no interest in being a bit part player. By the end of his career he struggled with alcoholism (regularly downing 20 pints of lager a day) and dropped out of the game, but by the early 1970s, recognising the path he was on, he actively sought help for the addiction, even spending time in a psychiatric hospital to deal with it. In 1980 he told his friends, including 1966 World Cup winner Gordon Banks, that he was going teetotal for good, and he incredibly achieved this, remaining sober for the last 41 years of his life. Sober and back in football, Greaves was picked up by ITV as a pundit for their coverage of the 1982 World Cup. It was there, and through frequent appearances on the weekly World of Sport, that he became good friends with Ian St John, the Liverpool striker who was also a goal machine of the 1960s. The two sparked off well on TV, combining serious commentary with the ability to make each collapse in hysterics of laughter on live TV, and this combination made them huge fan favourites. They had their own football discussion show Saint and Greavsie, which ran for 7 years, and pioneered the more laidback, friendly manner of morning sports discussion which is now widespread. The show was cancelled, amid fury, in 1992 after ITV went in a huff about losing live football to Sky, but the pair remained the best of friends, and Saint kept close tabs on Greaves health, even as the Saint himself was suffering with terminal cancer. Greaves was the 14th success of the year. As Oscar Wilde no doubt said, to lose one of Saint and Greaves in a year may be regarded as a misfortune, to lose both looks like carelessness. And that's us back up to date, I think.

WHOLE LOTTA HISTORY 13/50 5th September 2021 One-fifth of pop music behemoths Girls Aloud, Sarah Harding has died aged only 39 after a publicised battle with Stage IV cancer. Harding worked as a BT phone operator and a Pizza Hut waitress before successfully auditioning for Popstars: The Rivals, a Pete Waterman bid to find a new manufactured pop success for the new century. From hundreds of applicants, they would create a boy band and a girl band of 5 members each, and they’d fight for the crown. The final decision was that of the listening public, who decided which final song they preferred: Sound of the Underground by Girls Aloud, or Sacred Trust by One True Voice, the boyband. I wont keep you in suspense here, as you’ve never heard of One True Voice if you weren’t born in the UK, whereas Sound of the Underground is regarded as a proper modern pop classic. Girls Aloud absolutely trounced the boys, not only selling over 100, 000 more singles, but having a 4 week run at the top of the charts, and gaining the Christmas number one for 2002. And once they won the publics affection, they weren’t to lose it in the next decade, with four UK number one hits and TWENTY ONE UK top 10 singles. There was a simple reason for their success – they were bloody good. Songs like Biology, No Good Advice and Love Machine are simple and catchy, and well sung. They were the band every rock fan in the UK thought they were a secret fan of. The band even those disparaging of manufactured pop would discount as “obviously we don’t mean Girls Aloud”. Sarah Harding was an important part of the group, her soaring voice holding the anchor in the songs. Off stage she was inspired by the Gallagher brothers and tried to present herself as a rebel, but when the band split up, she suffered from addiction demons. Publicised run ins with the law followed. Preferring acting, she spent most of the last decade working out what she wanted to do with her life – she acted, she wrote songs, she learned gymnastics, and became increasingly more in demand for TV appearances for her madcap but witty commentary. Harding had gone teetotal and agreed to a 20th anniversary comeback with Girls Aloud for 2022, when suddenly she was diagnosed with late stage cancer. Recent documentary evidence has come to light to tell us that before she became part of one of the most successful pop acts of the 21st Century, she worked briefly as a palaeontologist on Isla Sorna, just off the coast of Costa Rica. Despite the bands success, no interviewer was ever allowed to ask her about the infamous San Diego incident in 1997, when a large predator escaped off a cargo ship and caused a number of fatalities. Indeed when we asked Dr Ian Malcolm for comment he just shrugged and said “Can’t Speak French!” So if interviews didn’t bring that up, you can imagine they didn’t touch on her family association with 90s Prime Minister Francis Urquhart either. Sarah Harding was the 13th hit for The Crowdsourced Deathlist in 2021.

DER BOMBER DAS BOOTED! 12/50 15th August 2021 Gerd Muller, one of the most successful strikers in football history, has died after a long battle with dementia aged 75. Gerd Muller played 15 years for Bayern Munich, during which time he scored over 400 goals and won four Bundesliga titles, 3 European Cups and 1 Cup Winners Cup. He was top scorer in the German top flight 7 seasons and won the Ballon d’or in 1970. As a German international, his stats were insane, 68 goals in 62 games, and he was a crucial part of the 1970 and 1974 German World Cup sides. In fact, Muller scored the winning goal in the 1974 World Cup final. Gerd Muller also won the 1972 Euros. Muller remains one of the greatest goalscorers ever to play football, a man who retired from international football aged 28, who was still knocking in dozens in Florida aged 37 and semi-retired. Even today, genuine legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have had to play considerably more matches than Muller did to surpass his records. Der Bomber was the 12th success for the 2012 Crowdsourced List.

INDIAN SUMMER ENDS FOR DILIP 11/50 7th July 2021 Bollywood legend and icon Dilip Kumar had died aged 98. The most successful actor in Bollywood history, he was a proponent of method acting and won 8 awards. His roles went from romance to comedy to serious crime drama. He had a seven year relationship with his co-star Madhubala, until he was forced to testify against her father in the Naya Daur court case. Kumar had been in poor health for years, suffering from cancer and many other ailments, and was a frequent visitor to the ICU in recent times. He is the 11th success for the 2021 Crowdsourced Deathlist, much to the shock of forum regular Drol.

DEAD ACTORS SOCIETY 10/50 11th May 2021 Actor Norman Lloyd's career started with Orson Welles at the Mercury Theatre in the 1930s, before he transferred to playing villains for Alfred Hitchcock in films such as Saboteur, in which he fell off the top of the Statue of Liberty. Despite that setback, he also appeared in Spellbound and would later become producer of Alfred Hitchcock Presents, the TV anthology series which helped inspire The Twilight Zone and Tales of the Unexpected. The latter of which he also helped produce. At the same time he starred opposite Charlie Chaplin in Limelight. He refused to testify before the McCarthy Witchhunt trials at the time, which led to a spell on the blacklist. Into his 70s he appeared on all your favourite US TV shows: Star Trek, Murder She Wrote, and he had main roles in St Elsewhere and forgotten 90s SF series Seven Days. He also appeared in Dead Poets Society, for which he only agreed to audition for after beating the director at tennis! A keen Sci-Fi fan, he financed Journey to the Unknown and brought his directorial eye to Columbo. His last film was Trainwreck, after which he retired. If we had to work with Amy Schumer, we’d retire too.

DEATH LIST? TRY A HEARING AIDE 9/50 9th April 2021 Prince Philip has died after a long period of failing health. You might have heard of him. Philip was born part of the Greek royal family, in a period so stable his grandfather had just been assassinated and his family were about to be overthrown. When he was one year old he was banished from Greece, narrowly avoiding death, thus starting as he meant to go on. By 1939, despite a number of personal losses (including his sister and niece in a plane crash), he joined the Royal Navy, and swiftly moved up the ranks as an adept officer. As midshipman, he was on the front line protecting convoys from u-boat attack. He was involved in the Battle of Crete, and took control of a battleship during a crucial battle in the Mediterranean. He remained involved in a number of Naval battles during the war, and was present when the Japanese surrendered in 1945. His Navy career was such that eventual promotion to First Lord of the Admiralty seemed on the cards, but with war over, Philip preferred to chase his teenage sweetheart instead. He married Princess Elizabeth (you may have heard of her) in 1947. In 1952 Philip found himself consort to the Queen. By this time he was already father to Charles (a relationship which struggled) and Anne (who is her own father). He took up the promotion of various charities, and created the Duke of Edinburgh Awards, which schools still try and force kids to go on. Aware that the patronage of the Duke of Edinburgh could “speed up red tape”, he promptly gave it to over 800 organisations and things. He was also famously protective of his grandchildren and was regarded as a rock of support during the various tragedies and losses in recent royal history. But you want the gaffes, right? Prince Philip couldn’t go ten minutes without saying something to annoy someone. He became famous in later life for a long serious of quips and fluffs which ranged from the genuinely funny (“how do you keep the natives off the booze?” to a Scottish driving instructor), to those the recipients claim they found funny (claiming a blinded IRA bomb victim must be blind with the tie he was wearing), to the badly timed to the somewhat frankly dodgy (the slitty eyes remark in China, for example). The latter of course led to his casual racist reputation. Which is a shame, to be frank, as calling Prince Andrew's home “a tarts bedroom” was legit funny. Many of his online critics about the more racist comments tended to refer to him as Phil the Greek, which is an odd bit of hypocrisy. Now he's dead, we can point out that Philip used to be notorious for allegedly having a thing with Zsa Zsa Gabor. In the weeks leading up to Philip’s death, there was a lot of handwringing about Philip’s reactions to Prince Harry’s recent flounce to America. Knowing Prince Philip, we can only assume his reaction was: “An actress, eh? Go on, my son!” He was the 9th Crowdsourced success of 2021, having been on all the previous editions of the list.