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    Deathlisters who are dead

    I genuinely didn't know I had the information till Spade posted.
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    Deathlisters who are dead

    Never thought of that. Actually, Magere's email address links to a Facebook page under the same name where... he last posted a month ago. Being already uncomfortable with this bit of cyberstalking I wont disclose much more except he seems happy.
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    Totally nicked this off another forum. So every bloody year, folk moan about the DL 50. So and so gets on the list and its wall to wall moaning - see Mr Porridge's thread as an example, or Bill Gates Sr. Oh wait, that was me moaning. Now the Crowdsourced list gives us the forums consensus Alternate List. And Deathers is trying something with an alternate committee. But...I was thinking to myself, wouldn't it be cool if every DL pick had an approval rating, and we could officially rank the Cmmes choices by forum approval or lack of? And then I thought: that's a great idea, let's do it! And I slept on it and shared the idea with DI, who also thought it was great. So blame him. Hah. This is the simplest thing possibly. Below is the list of the 40 living candidates on the 2020 Deathlist, and several of the Survivors from previous years lists not currently on the Deathlist. A selected few, not everyone because that'd be a long list and do we really need to be comparing the Lineker baby, I think not. All you need to do is to copy this list, and send it to me with one of two words next to each name. If you think the person is Deathlist worthy in 2020, write YES. If you do not think the person is Deathlist worthy in 2020, write NO. Do not post your YES/NO ballots in this thread as it will defeat the purpose of a secret ballot and may swing other peoples opinoons. PM it to me, before 10th July 2020. No team creation, no new names needed, just a straight YES or NO to the Cmme's own picks. Which hopefully makes this sufficiently different from TCD. The list: Prince Philip Olivia de Havilland Dick van Dyke Akihito Pierre Cardin Bob Dole Murray Walker Leon Spinks Betty White Angela Lansbury Bob Barker Alan Greenspan Henry Kissinger Jimmy Carter Valery Giscard d’estaing Leslie Phillips Tony Bennett Harry Belafonte Nobby Stiles Prunella Scales Desmond Tutu Jacques Delors Willie Nelson John Edrich Bouteflika Alex Trebek Shane MacGowan Dick Cheney Ruth Bader Ginsbury Imelda Marcos Carl Reiner Lester Piggott Joanne Woodward David Crosby Tom Smith Jean-Marie le Pen General Pervez Musharraf William H Gates David Attenborough Peter Sutcliffe --- Tina Turner Larry King Gorbachev Loretta Lynn Cleo Laine Sidney Poitier Jimmy Greaves Vanessa Redgrave Ed Asner Barbara Walters June Brown Gazza Joni Mitchell Olivia Newton-John Ronnie Wood Ian St John Louis Farrakhan Sean Connery Pope Benny Mel Brooks Stanley Baxter Linda Nolan Sandy Gall David Prowse Queen Elizabeth II James Randi Nigel Lawson Frank Bough Jerry Lee Lewis Peter Alliss Ozzy Osbourne Brian Wilson What an exciting list. Who will finish rock bottom in the forums affections? We'll know soon. Ranking will be sorted exactly how we find the approval rating for our politicians. Approval rating (YES) minus Disapproval (NO) = Result
  4. So this thread teaches not only are some of us either the Reaper or clairvoyant, but also not to use the loo until twenty minutes after Gooseberry in July!
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    Derby Dead Pool 2020

    Random picture of Derby. Entries for the 2020 Derby Dead Pool are now open! Emails appear to be very slow sending out, if you haven't received one by, idk, tomorrow, let the Cmme know. I'll let our other members introduce themselves below, especially as they are doing the Data Entry bit, so you can shower them with bribes and likes... Rules are as before, but The Herald newspaper returns as a Qualifying Obit. As do the ITV local pages, which weren't already one on the 2019 list.
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    Alt Obituaries Deadpool

    Well, a lot of our number play this game, and Gcreptile currently leads it on Day 3 after Thomas Monson (related to Gorilla, right?). Given the Rotten Dead Pool appears to have gone the way of the dodo, and this pool gets talked about a fair bit - I found it via DDT - I thought it could have its own thread? Where we cheer on any of our lot against the (nearly) unstoppable Mr Tierney and co. The points system is similar but different to the DDP, and their criteria is somewhat America, but it's all good fun. Home Page Standings Who's Dead so Far Deathlisters playing in 2018 include Gcreptile, deadsox, Joey, me, Jireomon, Death Impends, Toast, and others I don't immediately spot. In 2017, Deathlister JiroemonKimura won, ending the reign of terror of Gerard Tierney, who won the 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 editions. Good luck everyone. PS We should have started this thread in December and swamped it with DDPers but hey, always 2019, right?
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    Derby Dead Pool 2020

    Big obits for sure but the Herald obit means points shall be coming your way next time Reptile is about. On the DDP at least, I don't know the Hartlepool QOs (I just pick people and hope for the best!).
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    Not much cricket here. Golf is a sport folk only pretend to care about when there's a chance of a Scot winning. "Sure I know all the rules, mon Colin Montgomerie, don't screw up the final shot....WHY DO YOU ALWAYS SCREW UP THE FINAL SHOT.... fuck it, golf's shite..." Or something like that. I knew who Tom Smith was, but as a Scot with a passing interest in our rugby side that's probably a cheat!
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    I've genuinely sat here taking it for granted that Allis was a cricket commentator, which perhaps unintentionally shows his fame level in this house.
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    Order – Placing, Name, YES vote, NO vote, Approval Rating SURVIVORS FROM PREVIOUS LISTS 32nd place – James Randi 8-14 -6 James Randi spent his life outing the Acorahs of the world. This forum would rather he stayed out of the DL. 31st place Louis Farrakhan 11-11 0 Farrakhan just snuck into neutral territory with the late batch of voters who went “oh everyone can have a YES except….” but we’ll get to that one. 30th place Ed Asner 12-10 +2 In the US he’s famous for the Mary Tyler Moore Show. Over here, he’s “oh that voice” for things like Toy Story. That disconnect explains his divide in approval, although it was by no means a straight Atlantic divide 29th place Peter Allis 13-9 +4 The cricket legend relied heavily on older voters. 28th place Cleo Laine 14-8 +6 Actor lovers, and the tag team of lovers of old Brits and old notable women (you all know who you are) gave Cleo a far better result than I thought she’d get. Joint 23rd place with 15-7 +8 David Prowse, Sandy Gall, Linda Nolan, Brian Wilson, Barbara Walters A number of folk who struggled at times. Brian Wilson got a lot of straight Nos, which surprised me. Sandy Gall did far better than expected. Barbara Walters was very close to a US/UK split. Joint 21st place with 16-6 +10 Frank Bough and Loretta Lynn Both had some detractors but are clearly quite popular. Just lost in the shuffle behind more popular picks. 20th place Nigel Lawson 17-5 +12 Hurt by non-UK voters not knowing who he was. Joint 18th place with 18-4 +14 Stanley Baxter and Joni Mitchell Solid support for the comic legend and the music legend. Joint 14th place with 19-3 +16 Ian St John, Gazza, June Brown, Larry King Perhaps surprisingly strong showings for 3 of these names given complaints at times. Joint 8th place with 20-2 +18 Sean Connery, Vanessa Redgrave, Mel Brooks, Ronnie Woods, Sidney Poitier, Jimmy Greaves I wont embarrass them by telling you the person who thought Sean Connery, the most Scottish man in the universe, was “some American actor”. Vanessa Redgrave did surprising well, which shows you this is about who deserves a DL spot, not necessarily who is best suited for one in 2020. Joint 2nd place with 21-1 +20 Olivia Newton John, Ozzy Osbourne, Jerry Lee Lewis, Pope Benedict, Queen Elizabeth II, Tina Turner So what I get from this is you lot love music heroes. Yes, I found remember the days of Benedict and Elizabeth’s duet on War Pigs with Ozzy. All of these will clearly return to the list before long. Top of the Survivors with A Unanimous Approval Rating of 22-0 and +22 Mikhail Gorbachev Shouldn’t have left the list, I agree. All Gorby All the time said the forum. WAS LISTED BUT DIED BEFORE THE DEADLINE (RIP) Carl Reiner had a score of 14-8 and approval of +6. Not bad at all, really, for someone in the shadow of a far more famous friend. And son. THE 39 LIVING PEOPLE ON THE 2020 DL Rock bottom spot - Bill Gates Sr 0-22 -22 It’s heartening to see such unanimity of opinion among the DL forum. No one voted in favour of Bill Gates Sr, not even his son signing in under a sock account. We might have a contender for general consensus worst DL pick ever, even if he snuffs it before January. Joint 37th spot with 11-11, equal, and 0 Alan Greenspan and Tom Smith Greenspan split between those into economics and those going “who is this guy?”. Tom split between those guy “no place on the list “ and those going “cancer plus reasonable notability = get them on the list” and that’s a near even split! 36th place – Bouteflika 12-10 +2 Forum seemed seemingly uninspired by this pick. Joint 33rd place with 13-9 +4 John Edrich, Bob Barker and Ruth Ginsburg Edrich harmed by no one having heard of them, Barker and Ginsburg harmed by the British voters being distinctly uninterested in them. Joint 31st place with 14-8 +6 Alex Trebek and General Musharraf Ditto Trebek but he bounced back late. Joint 29th place with 16-6 +10 Lester Piggott and Shane MacGowan Two “famous enough but not really room” type decisions. Joint 24th place with 17-5 +12 Dick Cheney, Joanne Woodward, Peter Sutcliffe, Leon Spinks, Tony Bennett An odd grouping. Some folk didn’t know who Cheney was. You lucky, lucky people. Ditto oanne Woodward, whose Oscar win has been forgotten, and Sutcliffe seemed to make people wonder if they wanted murderers on the list. But +12 is clearly an outright majority... Joint 21st place with 18-4 +14 Jacques Delors, Harry Belafonte and Akihito Not much to say here. A few dissenters but otherwise big votes. Joint 16th place with 19-3 +16 Prunella Scales, Imelda Marcos, David Crosby, Leslie Philips and Bob Dole Another group of big winners. Curious to see the big support for David Crosby. Dark horse for widespread forum approval. Folk wanted Imelda on the list for years, and Bob Dole is so well known over here even folk who voted no for most of the Americans voted yes to him. Bob Dole likes this. Despite questions over how long Pru has left, there’s no question about the forum’s view of her DL-ness... Joint 12th place with 20-2 +18 Angela Lansbury, Betty White, David Attenborough and Pierre Cardin Thumping big majorities for 4 legends. Well, maybe 3 and Mr Cardin. Lansbury and Attenborough got masse cross Atlantic support, and so nearly got unanimous votes. Betty White had two dissenters to her being a US star, but 20 YES votes from 22 is landslide territory. Joint 4th place with 21-1 +20 Murray Walker, Giscard d’Estaing, Henry Kissinger, Desmond Tutu, Jean Marie le Pen, Dick Van Dyke, Willie Nelson, and Olivia de Havilland Most of these just missed top spot by one person who hadn’t heard of them, or one person probably playing silly buggers in the case of Olivia. Kissinger seemed destined for joint top spot till late on. Surprisingly strong results for Dick van Dyke (might be healthy but his A list status isn’t in doubt), Giscard d’Estaing and Jean Marie le Pen. Also, look at Willie Nelson, only one NO vote in the entire thing. Stunningly strong. Joint 1st place with Unanimous Approval Ratings of 22-0 +22 Prince Philip, Jimmy Carter and Nobby Stiles The trio at the top went without a single negative vote. They are all A-listers, and if Nobby isn’t as famous (he’s not even the most famous England World Cup winner you heard about today), he’s still earned his place in the DL heart with his long survival against seemingly every dreaded illness under the sun. Jimmy Carter would fucking loved this approval rating back in 1980. As for Prince Philip, he just says: “Deathlist? If you all keep shouting at each other no wonder you are deaf!” Anyhow, that's the results. Enjoy. Or not.
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    Thanks. 19 votes in so this is your last chance warning for the next 4 1/2 hours. To save time you may just send me the names you want to say NO to if you so wish...
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    Political Frailty

    Thanks. This was Norman filming early 2019. Watching the video below the pic above on his twitter he was clearly lost a fair bit of weight in a hurry and his voice is weaker too. The evidence certainly seems to backs up Ulitzer's source (as does precedent).
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    Political Frailty

    He wasn't looking that bad last year - quite lively in fact. Any of these more recent pics to hand?
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    DL Dead Pools

    My suggestion is be wary on the Inverse points because whilst we know it'll hit "C-lister with terminal cancer at Christmas" picks it'll also hurt the most A list names in the game and you don't want people forgoing the likes of the Queen or Philip or what not for fear of losing too many points?
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    DL Dead Pools

    Do they have to be hits on the respective other games or just in general? I can also see the Inverse and Prediction rules playing merry havoc with each other. Sounds like chaos but might be worth a shot - folk aren't forced to play the various games and I remember way back when folk complained there weren't enough games...
  16. Aye. Poor Jack! Another legend killed off in 2020.
  17. Right, so, back in 2016, folk were moaning about DL droughts and stuff (ignore for a moment so many people died in 2016 I think we all died three times that year). So I put all the DL names who had more than 5 appearances on the list in a poll, and asked folk who would be the last standing of the current crop of Deathlist legends. And some of the great brains on site... all looked very foolish claiming Fidel Castro would do it, only for him to snuff it weeks later. So, three years on, more moaning about droughts, and 5/8 on the first go are no more. So in the interest of time capsuled opinions which swiftly prove wrong, and a good sense of sods law, have at it. Of the eleven (!) people on the 2019 DL to appear on 6 or more lists (and thus we can safely assume are there till they die), who will be the last one alive? Vera Lynn and Olivia de H still top trumps, or are new blood in Henry Kissinger and Clive James the in thing? (Results from 2016) 1. Vera Lynn (Still alive) 21 votes 2. Olivia de Havilland (still alive) 19 votes 3. Fats Domino (died in 2017) 16 votes 4. Jake LaMotta (died in 2017) 7 votes 5. Zsa Zsa Gabor (died 2 months later) 5 votes 6. Fidel Castro (died 1 month later) 5 votes 7. Kirk Douglas (still alive) 4 votes 8. Rev Billy Graham (died in 2018) 1 vote 2019 contenders 1. Kirk Douglas (17) - b. 1916 2. Herman Wouk (8) - b. 1915 3. Olivia de Havilland (12) b. 1916 4. Prince Phillip (7) b. 1921 5. Vera Lynn (11) b . 1917 6. Bob Dole (7) b. 1923 7. Henry Kissinger (7) b. 1923 8. Robert Mugabe (6) b. 1924 9. Javier Perez De Cuellar (6) b. 1920 10. Hosni Mubarak (6) b. 1928 11. Clive James (6) b. 1939 And mind the words of wisdom from LFN: "I'm getting a bit fucked off with these inane threads from people who cannot contribute anything more to the forum because they are utter twats." Oh, wait a minute... PS Oh yeah, I've gone for Kissinger.
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    The Happy Birthday Thread

    Sorry, I only wanted something else to do but hang around.
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    The Happy Birthday Thread

    Aww. What have I... what have I... what have I done to deserve this? EDIT - Dammnit ninja Toast!
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    Mahathir Mohamad

    Not really.
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    Mahathir Mohamad

    With the death of JPdC, there is a vacancy on the list for "boring old politician picked every year till they turn 100 and die". Not this guy, but one in general.
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    The Happy Birthday Thread

    So your heart starts missing a beat, even? Anyhow, he managed it when he was left to his own devices.
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    Political Frailty

    List of the Missed. Just marking it for that gobshite who updates the DDP website. Ahem.
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    How DLy Are They Anyway?

    Completely forgot to remind folk about this so in fairness, you now have today and tomorrow to send in a last minute list. This thing now closes on midnight Scottish time tomorrow night (ie just under 37 hours from now).
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