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EXILED FROM LIFE 2/50 (What do you mean, it's the wrong guy?) 10th January 2022 When Constantine II was unable, due to health, to make Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral in September, the royal ambulance chasers knew something was amiss. And so he debuted on The Crowdsourced Deathlist, only to decide he didn’t want to stay a mere ten days into the year. Constantine was King of Greece from 1964 until 1973. When the Colonels Coup happened in 1967, Constantine was forced to accept their rule and rush off to exile. In his absence, the junta abolished the monarchy. When they were ousted, Constantine returned, only to find that a referendum backed the continued abolition of his job. To his credit, he publicly supported the new republic, and eventually he returned to Greece for good where he was viewed as a historical curiosity. He suffered from heart issues in later life, and a bout of covid last night didn’t help. He was eighty-two and the second hit from this years selection.

LA DOLCA MORTO 1/50 6th January 2023 Mega-popular football star Gianluca Vialli has died, aged only 58, after a lengthy battle with the dreaded pancreatic cancer. Regarded as a gentleman in the game even by his opponents, he continued to fund his charity for ALS support even as he lay on his own deathbed. Vialli launched his career at Cremonese, but he became internationally known for his time at Sampdoria, where he helped the team win their only Serie A title, and took them to the European Cup final. Again, Sampdoria. In a European Cup final. It was at I Blucerchiati that Vialli formed his partnership with Robert Mancini, first as a formidable team on the pitch, and later as the great bromance of Italian football, with the two friends inseparable for the next near 40 years. Vialli won the Cup Winners Cup with Sampdoria, before a move to Juventus, where he finally got his hands on the Champions League itself. He wound in England, playing for Chelsea and in 1998, the nouveau riche (even before Abramovich) club asked him to be a very rare English top flight player-manager. In those days, Chelsea had only won five trophies in a century. Gianluca Vialli saw that challenge, and proceeded to win five trophies in two years. This was 50% of their entire Cabinet before Russian money took over, for the record. Vialli was sacked, somewhat prematurely, in 2000, but he remained a Chelsea fan favourite for the rest of his life. Vialli slid into a role as an insightful TV pundit, while investing in interests and running his charity, but in 2019 he took a role in best friend Robert Mancini’s Italy coaching team, as Italy won their first European Championship since the 1960s. But even at that point, in summer 2021, he knew he was on borrowed time.

BARBARA WALTERS 1 MOST FASCINATING DEATHS 23/50 30th December 2022 Heavyweight American broadcaster Barbara Walters has died after a long period of ill health. Best known for her work on 20/20 and The View, Walter’s TV career stretched nearly 65 years. She interviewed everyone from Jiang Zemin (déjà vu), to Fidel Castro, to Sean Connery, in a famous interview where Connery doubled down on his views on domestic violence. She remained loyal to her ex, the McCarthy supporting AIDS denialist Roy Cohn, until his death from the disease he denied existed in 1986. She won a GLAAD award, among many others for her longevity in the business. Barbara Walters was the 23rd hit for the 2022 Crowdsourced Deathlist, breaking the record for most hits in one year. Thus concludes the 2022 Crowdsourced Deathlist. Well done everyone.

PELE ESCAPES TO VICTORY 22/50 29 December 2022 Widely regarded as the greatest footballer of all time by all bar Maradona and Robin Friday fans, Brazilian footballer Pele has died to give The Crowdsourced list a melancholic success. Pele burst on the scene as a fifteen year old boy playing for Santos in the Brazilian top flight. Before he was eighteen, he was the league top scorer, and over the course of eighteen years with the football giants, he scored a ludicrous 618 goals. In that time he won six league titles, and two Copa Liberatadores (the South American version of the European Cup). Eventually he retired, only to unretire and join the New York Cosmos. But I’m assuming you know him best for his international career. It’s that, or his advocacy for SPAM. Pele tormented the Welsh and the Swedes on his way to his first World Cup, still a teenager in 1958. In 1962, he made it two World Cup trophies from two World Cups, even though he was injured for the final. In 1966, he was infamously hacked out of the tournament, and his international career seemed done, until, in 1970, the Brazil junta decided to court favour with the Brazilian public, and entice Pele back into the squad. Their manager Saldanha was ordered to pick Pele, and told the dictator he wanted to pick their Cabinet! Mysteriously, Saldanha was soon out of a job, and Pele’s mate Mario Zagallo was in. Pele’s 1970 World Cup is what sporting myth is made of. They played fluid attacking Total Football, with an added degree of pragmatism born from four years previously. Brazil beat England in an oft-repeated game, the highlight remaining Gordon Banks expert save from Pele’s almost certain goal. Almost goals were his tournament trademark. Pele swung round the Uruguayan keeper, tried to shoot from an impossible angle, and the ball so nearly went into the net. Earlier, against the Czechs, Pele had attempted to lob the keeper from the halfway line with one of the heavy old school balls, and the TV cameras caught Czech keeper Viktor scrambling backwards in panic to try and clear, as the ball fell just inches short of the net. But don’t dwell on the goals that never happened. There was six scored in 1958, another one in 1962 and 1966 each, and four in 1970. This still comfortably has Pele in the top ten scorers in World Cup history, with only Klose, Ronaldo (the original one), Der Bomber Gerd Muller, Just Fontaine and some guy called Leo Messi having surpassed him. After football, there was Escape to Victory, the WW2 film. He hobnobbed with Queens and actors, won honorary knighthoods, shrugged off financial issues while at the same time proposing corruption laws in Brazilian politics, and was the face of countless charities. His lingering ill health and death saw world wide mourning, as shown during the Word Cup itself, but there are worse ways to go than, surrounded by your family, fully aware of best wishes being broadcast from all over the world. After all, when Muhammad Ali calls you the Greatest, you know you’re pretty damn good at what you do. Pele was also almost captured during a military coup in Nigeria in the 1970s, but somehow, the most famous person in the entire word was able to successfully disguise himself as an air pilot and escape the country! Pele was the 22nd hit for the 2022 Crowdsourced Deathlist. (Note – while he was never picked for TCD, the man who coined “The Pele Kick” in tribute to the footballer, commentator Don West, died within hours of Pele himself. A larger than life excitable man, he’ll be missed.)

Let's catch up, somewhat. ZEMIN CONGRESSES TO THE OTHER SIDE 21/50 30th November 2022 Former Chinese President Jiang Zemin has died to provide another Drol assist for the list. Zemin was the compromise candidate of the Chinese communist upper brass to become General Secretary in 1989, who wanted a friendlier headliner after the Tiananmen Square massacre. Under his tenure as President, China gained Hong Kong, and entered the World Trade Organisation. He also grew into the other roles of President, such as cracking down on the human rights of various minority groups. He stood down from the Presidency in 2003, but remained a powerful figure in Chinese politics until near the end. Zemin, who was 96, was the 21st hit for the 2022 Crowdsourced Deathlist.

Doesn't even need to be cancer. Kidney failure is a common one at that age, and comes to mind as something he could have treated if he wished. Pancreatic cancer is a bit too fatal. This news strikes me as Carter deciding at his age it's time to take something he could have fought a decade ago as the sign its time to go.

It was a general fucks sake rather than directed at anyone specifically. The people have spoken. The bastards!

Fucks sake.

65 Belinda Carlisle — Heaven Is A Place On Earth 44 Enya – Orinoco Flow 43 Madonna — Like a prayer 42 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 35 Marc Almond & Gene Pitney - Something's Gotten Hold of My Heart +4 35 Kylie Minogue – I Should Be So Lucky 22 Pet Shop Boys - Heart 12 Tiffany – I Think We're Alone Now -3 00 Kylie Minogue - Hand On Your Heart -3

64 Belinda Carlisle — Heaven Is A Place On Earth 43 Enya – Orinoco Flow 41 Madonna — Like a Prayer 38 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 31 Marc Almond & Gene Pitney – Something's Gotten Hold of my Heart +4 29 Pet Shop Boys — Heart 25 Black Box — Ride on Time -2 22 Kylie Minogue – I Should Be So Lucky 19 Aswad – Don’t Turn Around 12 Tiffany – I Think We're Alone Now -3 10 Kylie Minogue – Hand On Your Heart -1

Couldn't hold in the suspense to see what Jimmy Boy downvoted tonight!

The comments by his grandson make it sound like Rosalynn is also near the end tbh.

Shame, but he's lived a long life.

58 Belinda Carlisle – Heaven Is A Place On Earth 51 Enya – Orinoco Flow 37 Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now 34 Black Box – Ride On Time 31 Aswad – Don’t Turn Around 31 Kylie Minogue - I Should Be So Lucky 30 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 25 Kylie Minogue – Hand On Your Heart 25 Pet Shop Boys – Heart 24 Marc Almond/Gene Pitney - Something's Gotten Hold of my Heart +4 20 Madonna — Like a Prayer 16 Lisa Stansfield – All Around The World  8 Soul II Soul ft. Caron Wheeler — Back to Life (However Do You Want Me) -6 Much as there's other stuff I like less (Eternal Flame and Black Box, say hi), I thought I'd send something which wasn't going to win closer to the drain.

Was on channel four earlier. Looking rough but says he's beating cancer. Also that it was head and neck cancer, don't think that was confirmed before reading this thread.

Ernest Borgnine for deathlist 2026 then.

Hmm. Bess Truman is still the oldest US First Lady by longevity, and she got to 97 and 8 months. By my quick calculations, Rosalyn Carter would have to get to April 2025 to beat that? Seems unlikely tbh.

Had been mentioned on forum as a good tip in recent years by @Lord Fellatio Nelson and @Gooseberry Crumble (now there's a double act!) as she was in a care home with dementia.

1988-89 was a low period for the charts, compared to 2-5 years earlier. 1990 wasn't much better but it was top heavy (Adamski, the Beautiful South and the Steve Miller Band all got number ones and I guess Sinead is quite popular.) 1991 had Freddie's farewell, Vic Reeves (actually a good cover) and number ones by, of all people, Iron Maiden and The Clash (with their weakest singles, naturally) next to the fucking Stonk and the horror that is Bryan Adams. Looking further afield, 92/93 has a few songs I can champion, 94/95 is more of a struggle (that's when I got into music, but all of my loves didn't get to number one!), 96/97 is weak, 98/99 is a mix of the timeless and the abhorrent. After which point I become a bit lost with the charts and will just have to vote for Girls Aloud and Rihanna who I know!

55 Enya – Orinoco Flow 54 Belinda Carlisle – Heaven Is A Place On Earth 38 Black Box – Ride On Time 37 Madonna — Like a Prayer 32 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 30 Kylie Minogue – Hand On Your Heart 30 Kylie Minogue - I Should Be So Lucky 29 Pet Shop Boys – Heart 29 Tiffany - I Think We're Alone Now -6 29 Aswad – Don’t Turn Around 23 Marc Almond/Gene Pitney - Something's Gotten Hold of my Heart +4 23 Lisa Stansfield – All Around The World 22 Soul to Soul ft Caron Wheeler – Back To Life (However Do You Want Me) - 05 Simple Minds – Belfast Child (Ballad Of The Streets EP)

Average is that, though in terms of the DDP, Terry Jones's near 5 years is about normal. A relative died of it last year - tbh it's something you don't want them to linger with.

50 Belinda Carlisle – Heaven Is A Place On Earth 47 Enya – Orinoco Flow 42 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 35 Madonna —Like a prayer 35 Pet Shop Boys — Heart 34 Tiffany – I Think We´re Alone Now 34 Black Box – Ride On Time 31 Kylie Minogue – Hand On Your Heart 29 Kylie Minogue - I Should Be So Lucky +4 28 Simple Minds – Belfast Child (Ballad Of The Streets EP) 25 Soul to Soul ft Caron Wheeler – Back To Life (However Do You Want Me) 23 Aswad – Don’t Turn Around 23 Lisa Stansfield – All Around The World 15 Marc Almond/Gene Pitney – Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart 14 Yazz and the Plastic Population - The Only Way is Up -6 (not it isnt) 13 S-Express – Theme from S-Express 06 U2 – Desire

William MacDowell, jailed in September for the previously unsolved murder of his wife and child in the seventies, dead aged 81. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-64655571.amp

47 Belinda Carlisle – Heaven Is A Place On Earth 43 Enya – Orinoco Flow 38 The Bangles – Eternal Flame 37 Black Box – Ride On Time 33 Madonna — Like A Prayer 31 Pet Shop Boys - Heart +4 31 Kylie Minogue – Hand On Your Heart 29 Tiffany – I Think We´re Alone Now 26 Simple Minds – Belfast Child (Ballad Of The Streets EP) 26 Lisa Stansfield – All Around The World 25 Soul to Soul ft Caron Wheeler – Back To Life (However Do You Want Me) 25 S-Express – Theme from S-Express 24 Kylie Minogue – I Should Be So Lucky 23 Aswad – Don´t Turn Around 23 Yazz & the Plastic Population – The Only Way Is Up 16 U2 – Desire 15 Marc Almond/Gene Pitney – Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart 15 Phil Collins – A Groovy Kind Of Love 10 Robin Beck - First Time -6 7 Jason Donovan – Sealed With A Kiss

Took me a minute of nodding in agreement before I twigged you were talking about the UK, not Alex Salmond!