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I was waiting for the follow up there, MPFC! "...but prime material for the Deathrace or summat"?

Sorry to hear about this.

Horns of Nimon has some good things going for it. There are probably worse stories. The Twin Dilemma, Paradise Towers for example but its failings are really 'old' Doctor Who problems. Studio bound & cheap and some actors not taking it too seriously. Watch this it is awesome That is wonderful. Mind you, Graham Crowden was a wonderful actor, and Nimons would be far duller if he'd played that role straight. The bit where he goes looking for the monster as if he's looking for his pet dog always makes me laugh.

Just about as he is a talent manager of a big star.Yes he would not be so well known if he wasn`t married to her but I think that is besides the point. Hardly. You 'could' argue that she only has fame because of him.... Is there no end to his evil?

And I've made many fruitless investments in him ever since. I really need to be more ruthless with the coffin dodgers. He was one of the many chancers on the 2011 Deathlist (with Aretha Franklin and Michael Douglas) that I elected to stay away from. Mind you, I did fall into the Ryan Buell trap.

There was a wikileaks about him having months left due to cancer in 2010 too. Boy who cried wolf at this point.

This is where I'll just pop in here, go "kidney cancer combined with early on set diabetes, really?" and say no more...

It was a thread killing list by the looks of it! I have a long held tradition, however. Note everyone with nasty cancer/other health problems down in a notepad, then look at it in December... then utterly choke, and ignore all of it for half insane hunches. This works as well as you can imagine. I hear ya. I know one thing I learned from 2015: Trust no one in a coma, they can still fuck you over. Apart from Bianchi not a single comatose person (Singh, Abdulsalamov) came through, and frankly no reason to do me like that. "Back at home recuperating" as you see a photo of some wheelchair-bound zygote staring into space. In the words of George Bush 42: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice.....won't get fooled again. SC PS: not a thread killing list at all. I've made notes both physical and mental about many on that list and maybe 15% I needed to look up. Most I wouldn't include but most are arguably decent picks. What astounded me yesterday after finally looking at y'all teams in DDP, so many simply mirror half or more of the DeathList it makes me wonder if anyone does research. As you saw in Shaun's pool, I had all of FOUR DL folks in my 50 names. FOUR! And I'm doing well tyvm, including 1 DL name. I've thrown together a list of names on some paper and I don't think I have more than 3 DL 50 names for next year. I've found WAY too many people actually knowingly going to cark it. Doesn't everyone else? I got mad respect for this list he's provided, and again I prolly got 15 he didn't mention. SC While many folk on here are DDP players, probably only about 5% tops of DDP players are on the Deathlist forum. Majority, I believe, are more sort of casual players who pick old people they've still heard of. That's why the Drop Forty tends to have a rather conservative outlook, and few hits.

Even so, Old Who was closer to Narnia than Doomwatch more often than not.

It was a thread killing list by the looks of it! I have a long held tradition, however. Note everyone with nasty cancer/other health problems down in a notepad, then look at it in December... then utterly choke, and ignore all of it for half insane hunches. This works as well as you can imagine.

The Twin Dilemma is generally cnsidered to be the worst Doctor Who story, coming bottom of Doctor Who Magazine story polls in 1998 and 2014... Never seen it, but it'd have to be something special to be worse than Resurrection of the Daleks. Or Love and Monsters.

Essentially, yes. Though preferably folk who would get a major news outlet obit rather than some of the lower reach DDP folk.

Could be a blockage due to very advanced stomach cancer? If so,can be treated with stents, iirc, but depends on the patient. Though that would need drips and hospital, and going by his own twitter feed, he's gone home because he can't face the hospice. So with both of those combined, I don't think he'll see Christmas.

Of course how could I forget Bidmead! It's his quiet and unassuming nature, clearly!

Victor Pemberton (SE), Christopher Hamilton Bidmead (SE) are both still with us too.

Kris Travis enters hospice care. He might just make 2016 now. *Diana Rots like this*

We have 4 lists in already. Interestingly, while the actual counting will take place at Hogmanay, a quick look suggests one celebrity has picked up 197 points from a possible total 200 from those four lists! I shall leave said celebrity anonymous, in a pretense of suspense. They are well known to the forum anyhow.

I was way ahead of time here, he has been on my deadlypool list for THIS year.I know what will happen now, every fucker will pick him for next year and I will have to either share me points or find another on their last legs....... I hope you get your points Lord FN cuz frankly it takes cajones to include Alzheimer's sufferers on your list IMHO, short of extremely late stage which in January Hill wasn't. If you don't get your points rest assured Sir Creep will be first in the line of fuckers picking him for 2016. SC Mind sharing in the points for the obvious and trawling the edges of cyberspace for the odd ones everyone else misses is about all of us do, innit? A couple of years ago now I was looking up Jimmy Hill because of the use of past tense to describe in a book. I mentioned on my then existing twitter how sad it was to hear he was now struggling badly with Alzheimer's. Not two days later, The Sun ran with it as an exclusive. I wonder where they got that from. He was meant to be quite substantially far gone with it then, so it's quite a feat to still be around.

1. In people's lists they send me, they can name as many or as few of the surviving names from this years Deathlist. I've listed all 36 current survivors above. 2. Our actual collated list will stick to the "25 from the previous year" rule. 3. As a result, if our top fifty, after all votes have been counted, has more than twenty-five of the 2015 survivors (named for ease in Rule 10), then the lowest ranked excess survivors will be axed from the list in favour of The Fifty-First ranked celebrity and so on... 4. Since we don't know if that'll be an issue until I actually do the counting, voters don't need to worry about limiting their personal lists to 25 survivors. It'd be nice if they did, but that's life. Hope that helps!

You and me both! Jacques Villeneuve Sr had announced he intends to take part in the 2016 Ski-doo Grand Prix, to be held in February. With regards to his cancer, he has apparently been "medically cleared" to race, which doesn't tell us much really. Anyway, he's fired from my DDP team for a truly woeful performance. My own fault for looking at the DDP in January and thinking "Ok, he's not unique, but if DDT picked him I must be on the right lines"...

Feel free!

I have a long list somewhere that, at last check, had over 2000 names on it. It wasn't entirely for Deadpooling purposes though (OCD alert). I'm crazy enough to put in the work this end if forum folk think its interesting enough to send in a list. Mind you, I haven't yet received my first list of 100 French singers by someone who didn't read the rules, half of who turn out to be long dead!

Hi! That's essentially how the Fifty will be chosen, by merging everyone's lists into one single list of 50. I doubt someone picked by over 50% of the voters will miss out, but if that becomes a risk, I'll bring it up here and let the public decide, if, say, we have someone on 90% of lists in 51st place and someone on one list in 50th place. But we'll cross that bridge if we get anywhere near it.

Here are a bunch of people, most of whom have either been cut from my shadow list or, if I am still considering them, they're not exactly secret uniques. I've mentioned why some were on the list (some have been on a considerable while) because I'm nice. Even for those everyone knows, because it makes it look tidier. I haven't mentioned if the reason some of the more obscure names have been dropped is due to them getting better, because I'm not that nice. Steven Adler – Drug and booze addled American rocker (with a history of strokes), claims to have gone a year sober in Jan 2015 though. Bhumibol Adulyadej – Survived a stroke, has heart problems, a brain haemorrhage in 2012. More recently had a blood infection. Muhammad Ali – Advanced Parkinsons. Reports vary on its severity. Rene Angelil – Husband of Celine Dion, dying of throat cancer. Virgie Arthur – Anna Nicole Smith’s mum, allegedly dying from “a rare cancer”. Shoko Ashara – Japanese cult leader, still on death row but now 60 and execution was postponed in 2012. Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg – Still frail, 94 now. John “Total Biscuit” Bain – Inoperable liver cancer. Ivan Basso – Cyclist with testicular cancer. Bob Barker - Still keeps quite active. Tripped and suffered minor injuries in Oct 2015. National Enqurier did the “Sad Last Days” thing for him that same month, so that should see him towards his centenary! Paul Barrere – Guitarist for Little Feat, now has liver cancer. Martin Bashir – He interviewed Michael Jackson once. That went well. Since 2008, he has had a brain tumour which is currently “under control”. Tony Beard – BBC radio presenter diagnosed with bladder cancer in April 2015. Melissa Bell – Soul II Soul singer, kidney failure due to diabetes. Hospital March 2015 due to complications but out within a fortnight. Bob Bennett – Former Utah Senator, now has pancreatic cancer. Daisy Berkowitz – Once worked for Marilyn Manson, now has Stage 4 colon cancer. Chuck Blazer – FIFA executive turned whistleblower turned gravely ill cancer ridden man. Judy Blume – Writer, Breast cancer. Tony Booth – TV actor and Father in Law of Tony Blair, now has Alzheimers. Fabian Bolin – TV “star” with Leukemia Kate Bornstein – Feminist writer. Lung cancer. Stanley Bowles – footballer with Dementia. Ian Brady – British murderer. Has dementia now. Asa Briggs – Historian, fat, and 94. Tom Brokaw - TV newsman, multiple myeloma. Bonnie Brown – singer, with Stage 4 lung cancer. Adam Busby – Scottish National Liberation Army founder (it exists), who was released from prison in 2014 and in October 2015 was declared medically unfit to face trial due to severe MS. Big Bull Busick – Pro-wrestler with throat cancer. Dez Cadena – Throat cancer. Glen Campbell – Singer with advanced Alzheimers. Jane Campbell, Baroness Campbell of Surbiton – Spinal muscular atrophy. Has noticeably gone downhill in the last year. Vivien Campbell – Once suffered from being in Def Leppard, now suffers from Hodgkin’s Lymphoma which has returned from remission three times so far. Jimmy Carter – Former President of the USA, now with liver, lung and brain cancer. Vera Caslavska – Czech Olympic Gold Medallist gymnast at both the 1964 and 1968 Summer Olympics. Seven gold medals in all. Now has Pancreatic cancer Martin Crowe – cricketer with terminal lymphoma. Given 12 months to live in October 2014. Johan Cryuff – Legendary footballer, now with lung cancer. Mark Cznarnecki – M&T Bank President, diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in August 2015. Paul Darrow – Avon of Blake’s 7 fame, suffered an aortic dissection in 2014, and has been in poor health since. Howard Davies Jr – Boxer with terminal lung cancer given a year to live in July 2015. Rick Davies – Supertramp founder with Multiple myeloma. Liz Dawn – Corrie Actress. Emphysema. Survived heart attack in May 2013. Only 1/3rd of her lung capacity now works. Well enough to make an appearance in Corrie this Christmas. Michel Delpech – Singer with throat cancer. Jonathan Demme - Hollywood director who allegedly has cancer. Christy Dignam – Irish singer, heart problems and amyloidosis. Jenny Diski – Writer loudly dying of inoperable cancer. Fats Domino – Overweight, survived Hurricane Katarina a decade ago, and has outlived most of his seemingly healthier peers! Kirk Douglas – Recovered from that stroke. Is very old though. James Dresnok – US defector to Korea, said in 2009 to be very ill, but apparently still going. John Edrich – English cricketer. Incurable lymphoma, but in 2016 he will have outlived his prognosis by nearly a decade. In 2005 he got mistletoe injections as a “cancer cure”. Peter Esterhazy – Hungarian writer with pancreatic cancer. Keith Farnham – Former US politician and current jailed child pornographer, seriously ill with bladder cancer. Mark Farren – Irish footballer with brain tumour. Joey Feek – Singer now in hospice care due to terminal cervical cancer. Simon Fitzmaurice – Indy movie maker with Motor Neurone Disease. Rob Ford – Cancer ridden, drug smoking, ex-mayor of Toronto. Andy Fordham – Recently returned to darts. “A dart attack waiting to happen” was how one journalist wag referred to the rotund personality. Previous strokes and heart issues. Zsa Zsa Gabor – Was in a coma in 2002-3, had a stroke in 2005, and her right leg was amputated in 2011. She received the last rites in 2010, and sixty-one people have died on the Deathlist since then. Jill Gascoine - Writer and actress who now suffers from Alzheimer’s. Paul Gascoigne – Footballer turned booze hound, probably wont see retirement age but a risky pick this decade. Ruth Bader Ginsburg – One of the few survivors of pancreatic cancer. Had a stent implanted in 2014. Rev Billy Graham – Has nearly everything wrong with him, from Parkinsons to alleged cancer. Kate Granger – Charity fundraiser and doctor with terminal cancer. Jimmy Greaves – Footballer and TV personality, had severe stroke in 2015 and now requires extensive care. Dale Griffin – Mott the Hoople drummer diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in 2006. Still doing interviews in 2013, however. Sir Peter Hall – Founder of the Royal Shakespeare Company, suffering from dementia. Kristin Hallenga – Cancer charity fundraiser, who has done lots of fundraising for cancer, and terminal breast cancer in particular. No idea what might be up with her... Thor Hanson – Poker legend dying very slowly of terminal cancer. Jimmy Hill – TV presenter now with severe dementia. Derryn Hinch – Had inoperable liver cancer, had a liver transplant. Aki Hintsa – Mentor of Lewis Hamilton, now with abdominal cancer. Larry Hogan – Governor of Maryland, with stage 4 lymph node cancer. Adele Horin – Feminist newspaper columnist, who has aggressive lung cancer. Clive James - Australian writer/TV personality who at one point had the fastest acting leukaemia in the world, but through stubbornness and drugs, is still hanging in there. Irving Kanarek – Defending lawyer for Charles Manson. Now 94. Richie Kara – Drag queen with CJD. Frank Kelly – Actor best known as Father Jack. Had bowel cancer from 2008 to 2011. Now has skin cancer. Ray Kennedy – Footballer. Parkinsons since 1983. Need full time care. Jason Knight – Former ECW wrestler with throat cancer. Burt Kwouk – Actor, rumoured to be too ill to travel now. Steve La Tourette – Former US congressman, who has had pancreatic cancer since 2014. Ian Levine – Music producer and Dr Who superfan who yells a lot and had the world’s least shocking massive stroke in 2014. Phil Lesh – Grateful Dead musician with bladder cancer. Lord Littlebrook – Former midget pro-wrestler, now in nursing home with dementia. Eric Lubbock, Lord Avebury – Terminal blood cancer. Expects to be dead by June 2016. Howard Marks – Former drug smuggler and author, now with inoperable colon cancer. Gerry Marsden – Pop singer, has a pacemaker now after heart problems, and was in hospital in 2014. Sir Peter Maxwell-Davies – Leukemia, into remission in 2013. Cocktail of drugs “held back” his back, but it returned in October 2015. Frank Miller – Comic book artist, alleged on social media to be very ill. Certainly, recent pictures make him look quite suddenly hideous. Angelo Mosca – Football turned wrestler, now with dementia. Gerd Muller – World Cup winning German footballer, has had dementia for a decade. John Noakes – Blue Peter presenter who went missing briefly from his home in Spain this year, and has been diagnosed with dementia. Gino Odjick – Ice Hockey player, now with AL amyloidosis. Peter Oosterhuis – Golfer with early stages of Alzheimers. Philip Pullman – Writer alleged to be in poor health. Had to cancel a Hay festival appearance in 2010, had to cancel a theatre event with Neil Gaiman in 2012 due to ill health. David Prowse – Darth Vader, has prostate cancer and now denies news reports of dementia. Lisa Ray – Had multiple myeloma. Had stem cell transplant in 2010. Sumner Redstone – Viacom chairman in declining health. Fernando Ricksen – Former Rangers footballer, now suffering from Motor Neurone Disease. Bishop Geoffrey Robinson – Australian biship, acting as a whistleblower on church sex scandals as he has terminal cancer. Mark Rolfing – NBC golf announcer with salivary gland cancer. Randy Romero – Hall of Fame jockey. Kidney damage since 2002, liver damage soon after, hepatitis C, one kidney left since 2008 (which is failing), and as of May 2015, now has stomach cancer. Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf – Saddam Hussein’s Information Minister, known as Comical Ali due to his Iraq War pronouncements. Now alleged to be gravely ill with cancer. Peter Sallis – Retired due to macular degeneration. Frail and 94. Prunella Scales – Actress best known as Sybil Fawlty, now suffering from severe Alzheimers. Vojislav Seselj – Serbian war criminal diagnosed with metastatic colon cancer in December 2013. Released from prison, and immediately started up his political career again. Yeah... Than Shwe – Burmese politician rumoured to be in ill health for over a decade now. Sheila Sim – Widow of Richard Attenborough and actress in her own right, in frail health for a number of years and a resident at Denville Hall. David Smith – Paralympian with spinal cancer who is putting off treatment till he can compete in the 2016 Olympics. Lynne Stewart – American jailbird civil rights lawyer, who was given a compassionate released for terminal cancer in 2013. Ian St John – Footballer. Diagnosed with bladder cancer in 2012. Bladder and prostate removed, but cancer has since moved into the bone marrow. Nobby Stiles – World Cup winning footballer, had a massive stroke in 2010, fought prostate cancer, and now, as of November 2015, needs full time care due to Alzheimers. Peter Swan – Footbaler who got caught up in a famous betting scandal in 1962. Has had Alzheimer’s since 2005. Charles Trippy – YouTuber with brain cancer. Joost Van der Westhuizen – Rugby World Cup winner, diagnosed with Motor Neurone Disease in 2011. Peter Vere-Jones – Actor who was in The Hobbit and now has cancer. John Wetton – Musician who worked with King Crimson, and now has metastatic cancer. Sigurd “Satyr” Wongraven – lead singer for black metal band Satyricon. Diagnosed with a brain tumour. Holly Woodlawn – Aggressive lung and brain cancer. Joanne Woodward – Oscar winning actress, who now has dementia so badly she can’t remember her late husband (Paul Newman), and is alleged to be going downhill fast. Malcolm Young – Guitarist with AC/DC, admitted to a care home in September 2014 due to dementia.

Two years ago, American "psychic" Sylvia Browne died. She made a habit of telling the parents of kidnapped children they were talking to her from beyond the grave only for them to turn up alive. She also told Larry King that she had been foretold she would live to the age of 88. She was 77. We all know what I'm going to say here... Bet she didn't see that coming.