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There's been enough Bayldon posts this year for him to have his own thread, nearly. Always a fun actor to see show up in things.

So, you didn't make Carey Lander your joker (as I did). And if I had to guess, my current joker will die in December. I'll submit three teams this year. The main team will be a somewhat boring cancer team whose entries have all already been mentioned on this board (as it currently stands). My B-Team will be a little more eclectic, featuring the odd terrorist, the possible uniques and a few old people, a bit like my main team this year. And my theme team. No, I didn't. I didn't expect her to see January. I might however put a theme team in alongside the annual Pan Breed attempt. If so, I have their line up all ready, complete with subs should any of them die.

For the first time ever, the proposed joker didn't die in October. This is only because I haven't come up with a provisional joker yet though.

Do you know whats worse? Having one of those uniques, deciding to hold off on them the next year as they are clearly doing better than expected, only for one of those teams to sweep in and nab him... and get unique bonus points when he died!

Crowe wouldn't be that crucial as all of the top three have him, so they wouldn't change positions or distance from each other. I was forgetting he's TJS's joker. As you were...

[RE The death of Michael C Gross] That'd put The Living End around 10 points clear of Spade if my maths is correct. Looks like Team Quantick need Kris Travis to go downhill very quickly now to make that up. Death Impends is just two behind the leader though, and even though they had little faith in the teetering ability of the picks remaining a few months ago, anything can happen in December with a sudden health setback. Even if so, it's still be a frankly brilliant year for you.

He's talking about his own deadpool rather than the Deathlist, I think.

The Deathlist has always been made of really old, famous people, mostly! Though, for all the talk of a logjam of old people talking up spaces on the Deathlist, it reminds me of the time around 1999. Throughout the nineties, there was a lot of notable old types who showed up on each years Deathlist, much like now. Then, from 2000 to 2005 this happened: Year, Person Who Was a Deathlist hit (number of appearances on the Deathlist at time of death) 2000 - Gielgud (9), Cartland (11) 2001 – Bradman (10), 2002 – Queen Mum (14), 2003 – Hope (13), Hepburn (11) 2004 – Wray (7), Reagan (14), Alice (9), Cooke (10), Adair (8) 2005 – JP2 (12), Wiesenthal (8), Mills (10), Callaghan (8) So by the time it got to 2006, the only person with more than 6 appearances left were Michael Foot (7), and Kurt Waldheim, Pinochet and Clive Dunn on 10 each. Similar will happen over the next few years. People might live older, but no one outruns time forever.

Boring post warning. Had a strange dream last night, in which it was New Years Day and the 2016 Deathlist had shown up. I'd had a glance at it, and knew it would annoy people, especially as it had "Any one former World Leader" in 5th place. I went onto the forum, which was full of threads (over 100) ranting. What I remember now is that posters (non-specific) ones were angry that the Deathlist had ignored Jimmy Carter, and the interesting case of one Paul Taylor (who I presume was made up), who was in 3rd place. Their was general disillusionment that the Deathlist had picked an 125 year old civil rights activist for "an easy pick", until someone pointed out they were sure Taylor had died in 2013. Then, someone else pointed out that Tayor had died in 1975, which was followed by the actual Committee showing up and suggesting that the man had faked his death and was alive. I only mention this for future reference as the dream claimed Zsa Zsa was number 1 Deathlist pick in 2016, George Bush Sr was 2nd and Olivia de Havilland was 4th. Boring post finished.

The list of hits per Deathlist year table, as nicely tidied up by Magere Hein: =1. 2015 (14/50), 2008 (14/50), 2003 (14/50) =4. 2013 (13/50), 2006 (13/50) =6. 2012 (12/50), 2009 (12/50), 2005 (12/50), 2004 (12/50) =10. 2014 (10/50), 2007 (10/50), 2002 (10/50), 2001 (10/50), 2000 (10/50), 1999 (10/50) =16. 2010 (9/50), 1997 (9/50), 1995 (9/50), 1994 (9/50) 20. 1998 (8/50) =21. 2011 (7/50), 1996 (7/50) =23. 1993 (5/56), 1992 (5/37) =25. 1990 (3/42), 1989 (3/32) =27. 1987 (1/31) 28. 1991 (0/40) Deathlist 2015, a record equaling year, is held up by 79% old people not waking up. And so what? I refer long time complainers to the Grim Reaper back in 2010: So, is this a record breaking year? Here's the number of hits still to come at this time of the year. 2014 - 2 2013 - 4 2012 - 1 2011 - 2 2010 - 1 2009 - 0 2008* - 2 2007 - 1 2006 - 4 2005 - 1 2004 - 2 2003* - 0 2002* - 0 2001* - 1 2000* - 0 1999* - 1 1997* - 1 1995* - 1 1994* - 0 * denotes historical record creating years or record equaling years at the time (I had no intention of writing out 28 of them!) Now, the last year to have no December or late November hits was 2009, and that year was entirely opposite to 2015. In 2009, 67% of hits were due to well selected terminally ill people, and the list eventually burned through them. The elder members on the list kept breathing (though annoyingly, one or two got dropped for doing that and promptly died in 2010!). Whereas this year, the terminal and seriously ill seem to soldier on, whilst the long lived elderly don't. That's life for you. In terms of record years, we've a 50/50 precedent. 2003 had no deaths after September. 2008 shot into record contention with late deaths of Mark Felt and Harold Pinter. Of the last decade, there seems a 90% chance there will be at least one more hit in the year. My guess remains that Martin Crowe is unlikely to see New Year. Given how this year has gone, though, we're as likely to create a record breaker out of Cliff Michelmore.

The gangsters will be in mourning. Though I believe Maurice Colbourne bumped off most of them.

Garnett might have, but I doubt life long socialist Warren Mitchell did.

That snark turned out well.

I wonder who it was. If it was Heath, he was in for a shock.

If I died right this second, probably enough for the Deathrace (due to mentions in local papers), but nowhere near DDP levels. Should I ever become a cancer dad with obit chances one day, I'll be certain to let you know.

The news that Betsy Drake has died at 92 back on October 27th breaks on a fast news day. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/betsy-drake-dead-cary-grant-838970 Note: Only posted here because of the previous reference by Handrejka. And another of my possibles for next year bites the dust. I thought this year was your last on the DDP? Not that I'm complaining! Why should anyone quit DDP? They might see themselves picked and decide it's just got personal If, someday in the future I became a DDP pick (due to some rare cancer, no doubt), I'd be so proud. But then, I am, admittedly, a bit weird.

Bhumibol Adulyadej to save people from having to write his name out much longer.

Apparently Scott Putesky was a big miss. His claim to fame with me is reminding me of Scott Putski. Not sure why Mary Tyler Moore has such an obsession on here.

I would be astounded if we didn`t. Martin Crowe would be delighted if we didn't! Good work, Magere, on updating the list.

My impression was that The Tomorrow People were mostly kids and so wouldn't be that old even today? Never watched it though.

A few lists of living actors from cult British SF. Tried for the twenty living actors who appeared in most episodes. Credited cast members only. There's a lot of actors out there with no dates who stopped acting decades ago, so stuck with those known to be alive. Classic Doctor Who (top 20 in order of most episodes) Tom Baker (Doctor 1974-81) b. 1934 Frazer Hines (Jamie) b. 1944 Pat Gorman (various monsters) c. 1937 Katy Manning (Jo Grant) b. 1946 William Russell (Ian) b. 1924 John Levene (Benton) b. 1941 Peter Davison (Doctor 1981-4) b. 1951 Janet Fielding (Tegan) b. 1953 John Leeson (voice of K9) b. 1943 Carole Ann Ford (Susan) b. 1940 Wendy Padbury (Zoe) b. 1947 Sarah Sutton (Nyssa) b. 1961 Lalla Ward (Romana II) b. 1951 Peter Purves (Steven) b. 1939 Matthew Waterhouse (Adric) b. 1961 Slyvester McCoy (Doctor 1987-9) b. 1943 Richard Franklin (Mike Yayes) b. 1936 Louise Jameson (Leela) b. 1951 Deborah Watling (Victoria) b. 1948 Maureen O’Brien (Vicki) b. 1943 The Avengers (living actors in at least 3 episodes) Diana Rigg (Emma Peel) b. 1938 Honor Blackman (Cathy Gale) b. 1925 Linda Thorson (Tara King) b. 1947 Julie Stevens (various) b. 1936 Valentino Musetti (various) b. 1943 Peter J Elliot (various) b. 1932 Peter Clay (various) b. 1930 Rocky Taylor (various) b. 1946 Warren Mitchell b. 1926 Julian Glover b. 1935 Peter Bowles b. 1936 Judy Parfitt b. 1935 Doug Robinson b. 1930 Gary Watson b. 1930 Geoffrey Palmer b. 1927 John Woodvine b. 1929 Jon Rollason b. 1931 John Carson b. 1927 Gerald Harper b. 1929 Jeremy Young b. 1934 Adam Adamant Lives (2 episodes or more) Gerald Harper (Adam Adamant) b. 1929 Juliet Harmer (Georgina Jones) b. 1943 Kenneth Ives b. 1934 Derek Martin b. 1933 A for Andromeda (at least one episode) Julie Christie b. 1941 Frank Windsor b. 1927 Brenda Peters c. 1937 Anthony Valentine b. 1939 John Nettleton b. 1929 Blake’s 7 (top 20 in order of most episodes) Michael Keating b. 1947 Paul Darrow b. 1941 Jan Chappell b. 1949 Jacqueline Pearce b. 1943 Gareth Thomas b. 1945 Sally Knyvette b. 1951 Steven Pacey b. 1957 Josette Simon b. 1960 Glynis Barber b. 1955 Stuart Fell c 1950 Brian Croucher b. 1942 Stephen Greif b. 1944 Deep Roy b. 1957 John Savident b. 1938 Peter Craze b. 1946 Peter Miles c. 1937 Michael Halsey c. 1952 John Leeson b. 1943 Leslie Schofield b. 1938 Tony Caunter b. 1937 Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons Jeremy Wilkin (Ochre) b. 1930 Sylvia Anderson b. 1927 Gary Files c. 1944 Shane Rimmer b. 1929 Day of the Triffids (1981) John Duttine b. 1949 Jonathan Newth b. 1939 Elizabeth Chambers c 1937 Cleo Sylvestre b. 1945 John Benfield c 1957 David Swift b. 1931 Eva Griffith b. 1962 Christopher Owen c 1946 William Morgan Sheppard b. 1932 Jon Rumney c. 1939 Lorna Yabsley b. 1964 Denis Gilmore b. 1949 Edmund Pegge c. 1943 Donald Pelmear b. 1924 Sally Lahee b. 1923 Gordon Case c. 1944 Alan Helm b. 1938 Albie Woodington c 1959 Andrew Paul b. 1961 Beryl Nesbitt c. 1935 Doomwatch (in at least 2 episodes) Robert Powell b. 1944 John Bown b. 1934 Wendy Hall b. 1941 John Nolan b. 1938 Jean Trend b. 1935 Michael Elwyn b. 1943 Jennifer Wilson b. 1932 Victor Platt b. 1920 John Savident b. 1938 Richardson Morgan c. 1945 Geoffrey Palmer b. 1927 Ron Gregory c. 1945 Frances Pidgeon b. 1931 The Prisoner (in at least 2 episodes) Christopher Benjamin b. 1934 Peter Brace b. 1924 Sapphire and Steel (in at least 2 episodes) David McCallum b. 1933 Joanna Lumley b. 1946 David Collings b. 1940 David Woodcock b. 1954 David Cann c. 1957 Peter Laird c. 1944 Patricia Shakesby b. 1938 Catherine Hall c. 1959 David Gant c. 1939 Felicity Huffman c. 1948 Stephen MacDonald c. 1959 Jeremy Child b. 1944 Jennie Stoller b. 1946 Alyson Spiro b. 1955 Edward de Souza b. 1932 Johanna Kirby c. 1956 Christopher Fairbank b. 1953 John Golightly b. 1936 Quatermass (1950s) (in at least one episode) Note - Some of these I am dubious about being still alive. Moray Watson b. 1928 Josephine Crombie b. 1929 Patrick Westwood b. 1924 Iris Ballard b. 1918 Nicholas Bruce b. 1919 (probably dead) Paddy Russell b. 1928 Stephen Scott b. 1928 Tom Clegg b. 1927 Melvyn Hayes b. 1935 Ian Ainsley b. 1917 (dubious) Victor Platt b. 1920 Mark Eden b. 1928 Keith Banks b. 1927 And as a bonus, due to the fact those lists are (as a nature of the beast) incomplete, here are the twenty oldest living guest stars from classic Doctor Who. Earl Cameron b. 1917 Arnold Yarrow b. 1920 Peter Sallis b. 1921 Gordon Sterne b. 1923 Nicholas Parsons b. 1923 Donald Pelmear b. 1924 Geoffrey Bayldon b. 1924 David Graham b. 1925 George A Cooper b. 1925 Morris Perry b. 1925 Ysanne Churchman b. 1925 James Garbutt b. 1925 Laurie Webb b. 1925 William Lucas b. 1925 Andre Maranne b. 1926 Glyn Houston b. 1926 Geoffrey Palmer b. 1927 John Carson b. 1927 Frank Windsor b. 1927 Ken Dodd b. 1927

Reminds me of the poem I often feel is the Deathlist forum's unofficial anthem. For the Anniversary of My Death By W. S. Merwin Every year without knowing it I have passed the day When the last fires will wave to me And the silence will set out Tireless traveler Like the beam of a lightless star. Deeeeep.

I'll enter around that time too, probably with a DDP crossover. In the past, MPFC has been good at being sworn to secrecy on DDP picks.

Yeah, when Kohl took ill this summer, and Schmidt was still giving interviews, I'd have certainly assumed the elder would outlive the younger Helmut. That's looking like life for you.

I was considering bumping the Rea thread last week when I learned that he still apparently has his cancer.