Grim Up North

You don't fool me msc - you'd love the job!

Marcel Duchamp 50 years ago today at 81. For a bit of variety rather than a photo of him here is his most famous and controversial painting. As you can obviously tell it's a Nude Descending a Staircase.

We're about to lose another one off a lot of our 'definites if they survive' list - in their final days. I won't mention the name because they have not been mentioned on the forum yet (and I guess they might last to November although didn't sound that way).

Hi Wormfarmer - just reading the late entry rule again and it does not seem penal enough. Obviously I'm not suggesting you should change it mid round but just to consider a change going forward. For example if someone died and they cost someone who had correctly submitted their team 10 points it seems unjust that someone who has failed to submit a team would only get hit with 5 points (no matter how late in the month it was). i would suggest the penalty should be the max of 10 points then 9 for a second death etc Otherwise you are potentially going to lose players who are actually submitting teams and be left with players who are not. Ultinatrly it's your pool so do what you want and thanks for running but just an observation. Cheers, GUN

His most famous hits RIP

Bob Barker - now I know who he is must be time for him to cark it.

1990, 2014, 2018 pick - well played the Committee!

RIP

Ami Brown latest Stage 4, 3% survival chance, she's cancer free, she's in remission, tumour's too small to test (article reads like a cancer pick and mix). My translation - she's going to die of lung cancer but not yet.

You just did

Actually I googled the info just so I could make what I thought was a tiny little joke in response to PB. If you think I posted that stuff because I wanted you to think I knew it off the top of my head then .

While King of Pop Michael Jackson was in his popularity peak in the 80s, a Johnny Clegg show really rubbed him up the wrong way. In 1988, Jackson travelled to the French city of Lyon to perform. He went on to cancel the show at the last minute as Johnny Clegg was performing in the same town and was an even bigger draw. Clegg was, in fact, so big in France that his band Savuka, had an album (Sugarman) that went on to sell 1m copies in France alone. In 2014, Clegg was honoured with the Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) for his “unique service to the arts, vulnerable people, children and democracy in South Africa.” In 2012, Clegg was also recognised at home as he received the Order of Ikhamanga, the highest honour a citizen can receive in South Africa, from President Jacob Zuma. Clegg’s love for and determination to learn elements of African music saw him arrested at age 15 for violating Apartheid-era laws that banned people from different races gathering after curfew hours. Clegg was first taught to master the Zulu language and maskandi guitar by Charlie Mzila, a flat cleaner by day and musician by night.

'During this interview, recorded last August 31, ....................................Today, everyone knows that the end is coming. It's a matter of months at worst, years at best. " Some of us hope for over 5 months, some of us hope for under 5 months.

Perhaps the subtle difference here was that the film had not been released and rather than it being for his alleged crimes perhaps they took the decision for commercial reasons?

You can't use that line then post a black and white photo! EDIT: Above post by Ashes Urn now edited to use a colour photo.

Yeah she is one of my few very unlikely routes to win the DDP - Ricketts, Steffan Lewis and Youngs die, Bracknell and Vervoort live plus a whole load of other people survive too.

Should've seen the owner's face when they gave the valuation!

Yeah we knew that back in May I think - I guess life is a terminal diagnosis but seems a bit fast and loose to announce a terminal diagnosis that you can recover from. Anyhow she fooled me for the DDP - I thought she was nailed on when her husband's brother didn't go on the international rugby tour to be with them.

Hi Sir Creep - what took you so long?

My pleasure. Looking stupid so others don't have to is one of my special talents.

Maybe I won't even google then. I was a kid in the 70s and read a lot but don't remember them.

Haha - you win! Of the list I'm inclined to google Beverly Cleary (who I thought you meant was an American racist at first ;-)), IM Pei, Katherine Johnson (sounds interesting), John Cruickshank and Lawrence Ferlinghetti - the rest meh (but I'll probably have to before mid December to check I'm not missing out - they all sound super old though???).

To my shame I wouldn't like to be quizzed on why any of the following were famous (I feel Beverly Cleary is the most embarrassing but right now I don't know (maybe a singer?)) and the list of people whose current health status I know nothing about is even more extensive. Beverly Cleary, Norman Lloyd, I M Pei, Katherine Johnson, Lucia Hiriart, Bob Barker, John Paul Stevens, Norman Lear, Al Jaffee, Luis Escheverria, John Cruickshank, Hugh Downs, George Shultz, Carl Reiner, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Don Lusk, Kane Tanaka So 17 names out of 60 and to be honest the list would be twice as long if I just arrived here - there is another list as follows of people I only know who they are because they are known to be dying soon/very ill Greg Gilbert, Devin Lima, Simon Ricketts, Le Duc Anh, Genesis P-Orridge, Jose Jose, Sumner Redstone, Dilip Kumar, Ric Flair, Richard A. Overton, Roberta McCain, Sacheen Littlefeather. A further 12 names. So 29 out of 60 I wouldn't have a clue who they were if I had just landed on the site.

If I google 'Renaud cirrhosis' I get nothing about the singer Renaud so I'm guessing he is French specific and would not get a QO for the major UK Dead Pools?