Bibliogryphon
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Glen Campbell might be worth a bash
He was diagnosed with alzheimer's about a year ago. He's winding up his farewell tour. He's got a few more years left in him.
Cancelled tour dates - time for a reconsideration?
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2012, 2013 or 2014?
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2 old soap actresses worth keeping an eye on;
Elizabeth Kelly (Nellie Ellis, EastEnders) b. 1921
Sheila Mercier (Annie Sugden, Emmerdale) b. 1919
Not forgetting Edna Dore b.1921 - she played Mike Reid's mum and was also in the Doctor Who episode Fear Her.
I had thought Sheila Mercier was already dead - Good suggestion JR976evil
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i bet notaguest is laughing his head off right now.last year was a catastrophic and potentially fatal year for deathlist,yet you are close to being worse than last year by a huge margin! There were 4 hits by march 26 last year and here we are on march 8 and you only have one! have you people ever considered just giving up this shit? Putting someone on your list seems to guarantee them immortality lets face it! LMAO
OK so last year wasn't brilliant but I run a game which had 365 names to pick from and I only got 13 hits 13/365 is much worse than 6/50 but all my players came back and more!
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OK Here is a solution from someone who knows nothing about football and just wants to be controversial.
Celtic are given a place in the English/Welsh Championship and each season the winner of the reconstituted SPL goes in to the Conference play-offs for a spot in League 2.
Unless of course Scotland vote for independence in 2014.
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Doom River?
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These puns are dreadful and he had probably herb them all before
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Derek Fowlds is looking dreadful these days. He hasn't worked since 2009 and his co-stars Eddington and Hawthorne from Yes Minister passed away in 1995 and 2001 respectively.
There doesn't seem to be any articles on his health or why he has stopped working but any fan of classic BBC comedy will be saddened to see how ill he is looking of late. I hate to say it as I am a fan but he does look like a shoe in for 2013.
As he was also a pal of Basil Brush, do you think he is more or less likely to go than Rodney Bewes who is almost unrecognisable.
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After much punditry regarding the chances of Sylvester's mother Jackie, Sage has nipped in and stolen the thunder.
Taken before his Thyme!
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I think they should have used commas here. Either that, or she's a cannibal.
Or from the Philippines (or both)
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Andy Hamilton finally got his moment on Final Word, Radio Four today, they didn't spend much time he'd already been dead for a month!
The show is called "The Last Word" and is one of my favourite shows but it is on at really stupid times. Come on Radio 4 this could go in the comedy half hour at 6.30!
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There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet.
Denis Healey (b.1917)
Roy Hattersley (b.1932)
Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930)
Roy Mason (b.1924)
Neil Kinnock (b.1942)
Bruce Millan (b.1927)
William Rodgers (b.1928)
Tony Benn (b. 1925)
John Morris (b 1931)
All will be obit worthy!
Tony Benn looks pretty frail these days sadly. Kinnock appears to be in pretty decent health and is only 70. Gerald Kaufmann is still an MP to this day.
Well he is 87
I do think that after Healy, Tony Benn is the next one on the list. I recently read his diaries which covered the period when his wife died - Very moving.
I had forgotton that Bill Rodgers was still alive. I thought that only Shirley Williams and David Owen were left from the Gang of Four.
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There has been a lot of interest in Thatcher's first cabinet but with the recent death of Lord Archer (Peter, Unfortunately) this brings down to single figures those who were two swords lengths away in Michael Foot's Shadow cabinet.
Denis Healey (b.1917)
Roy Hattersley (b.1932)
Gerald Kaufmann (b.1930)
Roy Mason (b.1924)
Neil Kinnock (b.1942)
Bruce Millan (b.1927)
William Rodgers (b.1928)
Tony Benn (b. 1925)
John Morris (b 1931)
All will be obit worthy!
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Are we drawing to the end on an (V)era?
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Are we moving into the endgame ?
The judge seems to think this can be reviewed in six months and therefore takes no consideration of our list.
Who do you trust Husband or Daughter?
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A hit I was sorry to see. He was a comedic genius and will be missed. Let's hope the next hit is someone who deserves it *coughthatchercough*.
Be very careful! Last yeat a group of us all joined hands and willed for the Death of Thatch and what happened?.... Janet Brown died!
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On an empty stomach you want me to think of her?? That's downright cruel. What next, Madeline Albright?Oddly I had been thinking about old Ernie just the other day.
Is there anybody else I should think of? I'm unusually good at thinking about people.
Think really really hard about Margaret Thatcher!
"Yes" (In Creepy Voice) "Together"
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I got 10. This is quite tricky!
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A Higgs Bosun particle walks into the church and the priest says “You can’t come in here”, so the particle says……………………………………………”Well you can’t have Mass without me”
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well yes there have been alot of briitsh recently dead celebrites that although very well in the UK (Alex Higgins, Michael Foot, Jimmy Savlle, Wendy Richard, Betty Driver, Bobby Robson, Cryal Smith, Laurent Fignon, Diana Wynne Johnes, Tony Hart etc) but struggle being known in the US but then again there have been some very american hits aswell Geroge Stinebrenner and Dick Clark
On a more serious note sykes will be missed, There have been a line of unwelcome hits in recent years Patrick Swayze, Farrah Fawcett, Dennis Hopper, Simon McCorkindale, Ellizibeth Taylor, etc hits that everyone predicted but nbody wanted
They can't have been that well or they'd still be alive : )
The nature of a list will naturally depend on the people who are compiling it. I agree that there should be a minimum level of fame but that bar can be quite low. If you read the obituaries in a quality newspaper than normally if there are four entries three of them I will not know who they are. However I will read them and learn.
What the Deathlist provides is an opportunity for people with wide and varied experiences to pool their knowledge and predictions and come up with a better model collectively than an individual may acheive on their own.
When I looked at the list for 2012 there were people I did not know such as James Randi but I accept their inclusion.
I keep a database of about 900 celebrity names as DL possibilities but when I show other people the list they say "who is....?".
The area I do struggle with is sportsmen unless they are recognisable making the front page of the paper (Beckham, Kelly Holmes, Chris Hoy, Andy Murray) I am a bit hopeless.
I think this may have gone a bit off topic!
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1998 is looking good to clear first, with 2003 close behind!
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Latest Vatican brawling for your entertainment, dear Death Listers:
The Vatican’s woes
God’s bankers
A beleaguered papacy is embroiled in intrigue. Some scent a succession struggle
Jul 7th 2012 | VATICAN CITY |
FEW things annoy Vatican officials more than lurid novels that depict the papacy as the secretive heart of a global conspiracy. Pope Benedict XVI’s most senior official, his secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, this month accused journalists of trying to imitate the American writer, Dan Brown, author of the preposterous—and bestselling—“The Da Vinci Code”. But it was not reporters who put the papal butler, Paolo Gabriele, in a four-by-four-metre cell, accused of leaking a stream of confidential letters. Nor was it they who, the next day, fired the head of the Vatican Bank, Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, and published a blistering statement accusing him of failing to do his job. An Italian police investigation, in which documents were seized from Mr Gotti Tedeschi on June 5th, has stoked fears of more scandal. He has since been quoted as saying he fears for his life.
Behind the rows is an intense and vituperative power struggle to determine the nature of the next papacy. It is largely waged in and around the Vatican’s financial institutions. The Institute for the Works of Religion (IOR), to give the Vatican bank its formal title, is no stranger to controversy. In the 1980s it was accused of involvement in financial skulduggery and responsibility for the still-mysterious death of a prominent Italian banker, Roberto Calvi.
Now it is seeking to clear its name of involvement in money laundering. According to La Repubblica, a newspaper, a draft report of the Council of Europe gives the Vatican a clean bill of health on all but eight of 49 criteria. More than ten objections would expose the Vatican to the risk of being blacklisted by the Financial Action Task Force, a body that polices banks. (A Council of Europe meeting in Strasbourg on July 4th reviewed the report; the Vatican now has a month to respond.)
Mr Gotti Tedeschi had originally been brought in with Cardinal Bertone’s blessing. But he opposed a new law, backed by the cardinal, that increased the secretary of state’s powers at the expense of the existing—independent—oversight body, the Financial Information Authority. The change fitted a wider pattern. Since returning to the Vatican six years ago, Cardinal Bertone has won ever-greater clout.
Stumbling on a rock
The 77-year-old prelate is not a true Vatican insider. He was the pope’s right-hand man when the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger headed the department that enforces doctrinal orthodoxy. For the rest of his career Cardinal Bertone was a pastoral cleric. Underlings in the secretariat resent the vigorous, soccer-loving former archbishop for his lack of diplomatic experience.
Intrigues are not unusual in the Vatican. What makes this conflict special, however, is Cardinal Bertone’s repeated grabs for the levers of financial control—and perhaps, his foes say, for the patronage that goes with them. Last year he tried to make the IOR rescue a renowned but debt-stricken hospital. Mr Gotti Tedeschi’s refusal to do that heralded their later rows. The leaked papal letters also show that Cardinal Bertone tried unsuccessfully to bluff the then archbishop of Milan into resigning a post that controls the city’s Catholic University.
To strengthen his position further, Cardinal Bertone promoted close associates and former subordinates from the region around his former diocese of Genoa and his native Piedmont, also in the north-west of Italy. He put one in charge of the Vatican’s treasury and appointed another to run its central bank (not the same as the IOR). A third Bertone confidante has been made governor of the Vatican City State, the Holy See’s temporal power-base. That also carries great financial clout. All three men were made cardinals in February.
These promotions intensified suspicion among Cardinal Bertone’s critics that he was trying to pack the next conclave: the assembly of cardinals that will elect the next pope. Sombre hints suggest that this vote may come sooner than expected. According to another leaked document, the cardinal archbishop of Palermo had said that the 85-year-old Benedict would be dead by November.
For a secretary of state to ascend to the throne of St Peter is rare: the only example since 1667 was Pius XII, in 1939. Whatever his ambitions, Cardinal Bertone has proved a singularly divisive figure. The early years of Benedict’s papacy saw a stream of diplomatic gaffes, which many Vatican officials blamed on his secretary of state’s lack of experience. Little has improved. Some had hoped that, as a semi-outsider, he would bring innovation and transparency to a central bureaucracy last reformed in 1967. But the leaked correspondence suggests that, on the contrary, he has acted to protect vested interests, for example dismissing a prelate who had helped save more than €40m ($50m) by scrapping cosy procurement arrangements.
Some unconfirmed reports suggest that the cardinal has offered his resignation but the pope has refused to accept it. On July 4th, before going to his summer retreat, Benedict issued a rare public statement decrying “unjust criticism” of Cardinal Bertone and praising his “discreet support” and “enlightened counsel”, which were “of particular help in recent months”. The pontiff may fear that, by dropping his chief aide, he would be tacitly admitting to poor judgment in appointing him. But as long as the secretary of state stays, the infighting in the Vatican seems likely to continue, and the outside world’s grave concerns about its administration will remain.
http://www.economist.com/node/21558249
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I wonder if the Cardinal Archbishop of Palermo is a DDP participant?
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Oddly I had been thinking about old Ernie just the other day.
Is there anybody else I should think of? I'm unusually good at thinking about people.
Think really really hard about Margaret Thatcher!
Authors Last A Long Time, But....
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I have been thinking about writers too a couple of suggestions that might perk up your interest again
Jan Pienkowski b.1936 who provided the distinctive illustrations for Helen Nicol's (b.1937) Meg & Mog books & Alan Ahlberg b.1938