gcreptile

Last day to sign up! The draw for the first round will be done tomorrow!

Welcome to the next itineration of everybody's favourite obsessive-compulsive disorder, the DeathList Cup is back. I am up for a repeat of hosting this nerve-wrecking and ultimately frustrating competition as we are watching people go into hospice and then not die! Last year's winner was wannamaker in a competition which, like the rest of the year, was a bit of a rough affair. But one does have to adapt to the environment, your host, winner of the Covid Games of 2021, can attest to that. These are the rules: The Deathlist Cup   1. This is a knockout tournament featuring one-on-one matchups between Deathlist forum posters. These matches will be determined by use of a random draw, using Random.org.   2. Unless we happen to end up with 2/4/8/16/32/64 entrants, then certain competitors will get byes to the Second Round. This will be based on results from the 2023 Cup: ie, winners first. 3. Please specify your wish to participate until the end of January 20th by posting in this thread, so that we can determine what the first draw looks like and if there are byes. 4. Players have a 10 day period of submitting their teams. For the first round, if you have not received a "bye", please send me your team by PM between January, 22nd and January 31st. the end of the month. For February, submissions open on February, 19th. The time zone is Greenwich mean time (GMT) in every case. 5. Your team has to consist of 11 main picks and three subs, so a perfect team would look like this 1. Adam Ant (joker) 2. Bob Backlund 3. Chelsea Clinton 4. Didier Drogba 5. Erika Eleniak 6. Frank Field 7. Green Gartside  8. Harry Hill  9. Ilias Iliadis (gold medal winner in the men's 81kg judo at the 2004 Olympics) 10. Joe Jackson 11. Kevin Keegan subs 12. Lennox Lewis 13. Meghan McCain 14. Nick Nolte Please explain who some of your more obscure selections are, should googling them not lead to an easy result. 4. Banned picks – we will have slightly higher fame requirements than before, matching my own perception of a slightly higher fame barrier in the DDP. Examples: - "Influencers": A minimum follower count of 100.000 in any one medium - "fame by association": Fringe and family of famous people will only be accepted if society has already been thoroughly aware of their existence, for better or worse (like Amy Price). - local fame: If the fame is "too local", they will not be allowed. High school coaches will not be allowed, "popular bar owners/traffic guides/etc..." will not be allowed, "town originals" will not be allowed. The notability has to extend somewhat beyond their own backyard. We will still allow college football coaches/players, elected politicians at every level, and no-name artists if their work can claim some recognition beyond their hometown. - "Awareness raisers"/"Cancer mums": Only those with nationwide impact will be allowed => I'll try to aim for something slightly higher than before, but still lower than the DDP  5. If in doubt, submit a pick, but the decision of the ref (me) is final and is not open to any court of appeal. If you think it’s a dodgy pick, it probably is. 6. Each match will take place over the course of a single month. For example, a February match would take place from February 1st to February 28th, a March match from March 1st to March 31st and so on... 7. Games will be scored in the following manner: A person in your team dies = 3 points A unique person in your team dies = 1 more point (ie 1 bonus point) Fatality – Your joker. Double points  9. Here is what happens in the case of a team member dying prematurely (ie on 29th Feb for the March game). If you discover this before the 3rd of the month, your top sub will automatically go into place. If it is discovered on the 3rd or after, sorry about your luck. If it turns out the person was dead and known to be (this is determined via a reference in a newspaper or magazine, not social media) then subs don’t come into play. This will upset at least one player a year. Will it lead to a huffy forum stormout in 2025? Let's see. 10. At the end of the month, the player in the match with the highest score wins that game, and will advance to the next round. The player who doesn’t have the highest score will lose, and be eliminated. 11. In the event of a draw, the following tiebreaks will be used:   1st tiebreak = number of hits 2nd tiebreak = average age of hits 3rd tiebreak = a coin toss   12. A player is only held to one team for a single match. If they win their match and advance to the next round, they may pick eleven entirely different people for the next round. In this way, folk who announce their terminal illness in, say, May, can be put to good dead pooling use. 13. Qualifying obits? Every single English-language newspaper, magazine or significant website, provided that they are not automatically generated by AI. Also Le Monde, Le Figaro, Der Spiegel, Die Zeit, El Pais, El Mundo and Corriere Della Sera. If they still can't get a QO from that, then they really weren't famous. 14. For the removal of any doubt, any players who do not send in their team before the deadline will be DQ'd and replaced by the highest scoring loser. No matter how many sad PMs you send afterwards.  This draw takes place in Month 1 (ie January) and is for matches taking place in Month 2 (February). After the draw, each player sends me (via PM) a team of eleven celebrities (and some subs hopefully) they think will snuff it in Month 2.   Good luck and sign up to take part in this thread. Entries close by January 21 with the draw to take place immediately after. Player List: Dying Probably (34) wannamaker (1) livingbygrace (40) Cpt. Hemlock (9) Joe Moneypenny (18) justonecornetto (19) Octopus of Odstock (41) Liz Lemon (33) MortalCaso (20) arghton (6) Bibliogryphon (21) Bentrovato (42) Cpt. Chorizo (22) theoldlady (14) DevonDeathTrip (5) Bendee87 (43) Sir Creep (15) Thatcher (35) theoldcrem (44) Diego (23) Spade_Cooley (24) CalebH (16) Wormfarmer (25) msc (7) Gooseberry Crumble (36) An Fear Beag (26) Steve (45) Death by Arsenic (11) max_bossetti (2) Therewillbedeaths7 (17) GuyFromFuture (4) deadsox (27) Sleepiestpeep (46) Heef (47) Funeralopolis (48) YoungWillz (49) AltObitsGuy (28) Banana (3) the killing time (29) Yorkshire_Banker (33) ladyfiona (50) famous6eva (30) MariNisia (10) Yvonne (51) Not playing: Perhaps (8) Hell (12=) Annami (12=) Grim Up North (31) The Immortal (37=) GreatUncleBulgaria (37=) Baby Blue (37=)

Blast from the past... Def Leppard's Vivian Campbell misses tour dates because of cancer treatment: https://www.loudersound.com/news/def-leppard-viavia-campbell-misses-show

Edmund White has written his (sex) memoirs: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/jan/19/the-loves-of-my-life-by-edmund-white-sex-on-the-brain-and-in-the-bathhouse He's impotent now. Time to die? Feels like he's wrapping things up.

There was a year, 2021?, when there were not enough cancer names so I filled up my teams with dementia people. Gordon McQueen, Jimmy Calderwood, Nobby Stiles and more... The only one alive left from the bunch is, of course, the most popular of all these names, Nigel Starmer-Smith.

Hello Everyone, here we are again. Time for a new round, are you up for it? Do you think we can ever surpass the score record of 1838 by DevonDeathTrip in the Death By Numbers of 2016? Well, I guess it's time you try! The general rules: Send me 50 main team names by pm or just post them in this thread, if you want, from now on until Dec 31st 2024, 23:59 GMT. You can choose one joker who gives you double points. Submission form: Just give them in the normal "First name", "Last name" format Please don't number them, don't add any data, like birthdays. And only note their claim to fame if there might be confusion, for example: Simon Cowell (plastic surgery victim) Simon Cowell (wildlife conservator) The scoring is [year of birth] - 1900 = score. So someone born in 2001 will get 101 points in case of death You may submit the following people: living, not knowing their precise date of death (by execution, dignitas, or whatever), at least 18 years old on January 1st, 2025, and being somewhat notable. "Somewhat notable" means: they should at least be notable for something else aside from being terminally ill. "Something else" being something that has an effect on society. Terminally ill activists are okay if they've done at least something generally beneficial, a nationwide campaign, a more than just self-published book, or a notable court case. If they're only in the news because of their tragedy or because they need our sympathy I will not accept them. So no "cancer mums with cancer kids", no "terminally ill fans", no "ordinary person in a coma because of a car crash". This also counts for brothers/sisters/children of notable people - unless they are so notable that every relative is also notable by default, like the House of Windsor, or maybe the Bush family. Unfortunately, it is me who will decide if the person is famous enough. Previous BBC coverage will usually convince me. Also, please, no football player in a non-professional league, who is totally obiting only because of tragedy, and not because the club just so happens to also have a wikipedia page - or any other name that kind of exploits the rules, like Dave Marsh. Any name that gets rejected in the DDP would also be rejected here! Sometimes maybe after the game even starts. However: "Oldest Person of XYZ" will always be allowed - even a completely irrelevant person (in the grand scheme of things) will be accepted if they are the oldest person of their country, or last survivor of World War II, Korean War, etc... Usually those people do not give many points, but maybe 5 pts is better than zero? Often, they are also of a certain "historic relevance", you know President Tyler's grandson, and such. Anyway, I will allow them. You can submit up to 10 substitutes. It was a little stressful for me in previous games to ask for substitutions in case of disqualifications. So if you think that some of your names stretch the fame definition, just put in some more subs. I will make use of them automatically. Once you have submitted your team, it's the final submission. Substitution phase: Up until the beginning of the 1st of July 2025 GMT you may switch 5 old people still alive for 5 new ones for whom all the above rules also apply. You can make use of the 5 substitutions whenever you like, until July starts. But once you decide to switch out picks, they cannot score anymore. And the new names cant score before 1st of July, so ideally you'd want to keep that window as small as possible, but we know that life sometimes gets in the way. When is a hit a hit: If the person permanently dies in 2025 (GMT!) and their death gets noticed in written form by qualifying media outlets within 2025 or the first seven days of 2026. The QO rules are: Everything accepted by the Derby Dead Pool 2025 plus The New York Times. Yes, let's hope that fringe Yahoo names feature a little less prominently - though admittedly, there weren't a lot! Your host: I will also submit a team and will do so below before Christmas and hide the names with "XXXXX XXXXX" and reveal them on January 1st. I will also make use of the substitution window, but only use 2 names. After all, there's always a pretty broad consensus of a couple of names (example 2025: Sven-Göran Eriksson, Johnnie Walker), so I wouldn't steal anyone's names by picking those who are universally known anyway. Also, I will substitute comfortably before the end of the deadline, so you can see my two names. I will not read your submission emails until January 1st (I think you can check that) to prevent the impression that I might take a name from your posts for other deadpools. So if I'm unsure about a name of yours, I will talk to you in the first week of January. If you post your team right in this thread, you save me some work but also give away names. If you pm me, please make sure that I know what the mail is about in the header "Death By Numbers", "Team submission" or something like that. If you have other questions, you can also ask in this thread! Players (teams processed so far): gcreptile LadyFiona Neol Edmunds Bobytomi Joe Moneypenny Gooseberry Crumble Steve Arghton Lord Insomnio The Unknown Man Yorkshire Banker The Immortal Trome Sean BuffaloPhil Charles DeGaulle Imelda Thatcher tracy Sod's Law therewillbedeaths7 etib80 Summer in Transylvania MariNisia Cpt. Hemlock livingbygrace Bibliogryphon Great Uncle Bulgaria Death Impends theoldlady Wormfarmer Liz Lemon Diego Death Becomes Them Banana Book msc Perhaps YoungWillz theoldcrem toast etushipushingupdaisies Dying Probably wannamaker TorvaMessor RadGuy Funeralopolis An Fear Beag Cpt. Chorizo Pedro67 Hell DevonDeathTrip

Oliviero Toscani and Kaiti Grey are dead. New replacements: Mary Schmucker Ludek Miklosko If I have it right, Aaron Shattock Nick Gandon David "Heavy" Whalley are now in the main team. Shattock seems like a certain miss though.

44 players are in right now, so just like last year. The seed order is in the first post. 7 seeded players are not playing, but they would complete a ranking of 51 names. With 44 players we need 12 games in February to have 32 players in march. So the 24 lowest-ranked players in the game have to play, meaning numbers 28-51 would have a February match, BUT four of those players are not playing - as of now. So it's numbers 24-51 that are going to play next month. So the players 24-27, i.e. Spade_Cooley, wormfarmer, AnFearBeag and deadsox are already playing in the first round. If more players join, players no. 23 and higher (Diego at no. 23, Cpt. Chorizo at no. 22, etc..) will also play in February, unless it's one of those players tied at ranking no. 37 who haven't signed up currently (Great Uncle Bulgaria, Baby Blue and The Immortal).

I got tired of always thinking about where to put the activists, so here's a thread for them: First entry: Feminist Sheila Michaels, who spread the title "Ms." dead at 78 from leukemia: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/09/sheila-michaels-feminist-helped-change-the-world-with-ms-title-for-women http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40528950 I guess you can also put your anti-rape campaigners, black lives matter-folks, and Ralph Nader in here. Edit: Link fixed

Well done wannamaker!

Rupert Murdoch

Does she have any health issues?

I think I expired my capybara. It may now relax in a pool. Welcome tardigrade.

Think I'll better get a quick update going, before I get buried under the avalanche.... First, golf writer Steve DiMeglio gets counted for Banana. A tweet says he died at the 1st of January and that's what we take. I have theories, but then, I wonder how many "official" death accounts are somewhat faked to give a better impression. We have to go with what we know! Funeralopolis got a slightly late New York Times obit for progressive US theologician Richard B. Hays - and good that he did, as he was the joker. Then we get to the popular and expected hits: Rick "Black Bart" Harris and Peter Yarrow. These names get most players off the ground and score joker points for a few, well actually, Black Bart only for Pedro, Peter Yarrow only for Steve. But the joker points matter immensely in these early scoreboards, as you'll see. Linda Nolan, as popular a pick as these other two, also scores lots of points for people. She's a bit younger though, gives more points, and theoldcrem gets joker points, as well. Legendary US avantgarde director David Lynch is a hit for 8 people. Not quite canon, but a valuable differential for a select few. Shiu Ka-Chun is a hit for wannamaker and me. While we (?) wait with bated breath for a DDP QO, even a one sentence mention in a UK Hong Kong news item would be enough, thank you!, he already received a quick New York Times obit. I am now awaiting an obit for fantasy author Howard Andrew Jones, let's see..probability...30%? Looks like I hadn't previously scored Mike Rinder. A long-time member of scientology, then turned whistleblower. His involvement in a couple of prominent documentaries assured almost universal obits. A hit for deathbecomesthem and me. Next up, "controversial" italian photographer Oliviero Toscani. He was prominent for the shocking Benetton adverts of the 90s, i.e. portraits of let's see...a nun kissing a priest, a black and a white woman adopting an asian child, a carpet of condoms... and similar stuff in that vein. Shocking! It's very shocking that only 4 players score. Who else... oh, of course Jean-Marie Le Pen. He kind of bridged the gap between, uh... traditional European anti-semitism and modern alt-right hate represented by his daughter. I mean, the difference is basically, who do they hate more, jews or muslims? A popular hit in this game. Finally, Chad Morgan is a unique hit for JoeMoneypenny. The Australian country musician had very prominent teeth, and I can't help thinking of a classic german skit, "Das Film-Monster", in which one of our classic german comedians plays a horror actor named "Vic Dorn" getting interviewed - and the joke is that he is not wearing a mask, as the interviewer presumed, but that this face is real. True story: I once played that guy on stage.... Edit: Forgot to mention, Joan Plowright is, of course, scored, too. She basically triggered this update. She won two Golden Globes and was Oscar-nominated. Her theatre career was equally important, and she was a Tony winner, too. Quite the resumé, even if not that widely known outside of the UK. Some teams didn't choose a joker in time. In this case, the first name on their list becomes a joker, that is Ann Margret for GreatUncleBulgaria, and Agnes Keleti for Torva Messor. Hope I didn't miss any messages from you, please tell if so! The resulting scoreboard is this: Rank Team Score 1 Funeralopolis 311 2 wannamaker 260 3 Steve 258 4 Banana 248 5 gcreptile 242 6 Pedro67 221 7 Sean 219 8 Thatcher 202 8 Hell 202 10 Book 187 10 TorvaMessor 187 12 Perhaps 184 13 Yorkshire Banker 176 14 theoldcrem 175 15 msc 173 15 etushipushingupdaisies 173 15 RadGuy 173 18 LadyFiona 171 19 therewillbedeaths7 153 20 BuffaloPhil 145 20 Summer in Transylvania 145 20 MariNisia 145 20 livingbygrace 145 20 Death Impends 145 20 Liz Lemon 145 20 An Fear Beag 145 20 Cpt. Chorizo 145 28 Toast 143 29 Death Becomes Them 141 30 YoungWillz 126 31 The Unknown Man 125 31 The Immortal 125 31 theoldlady 125 34 Diego 112 35 Bibliogryphon 110 36 Mr. Wonderful 107 37 Lord Insomnio 97 38 Bobytomi 87 38 Trome 87 38 etib80 87 38 Great Uncle Bulgaria 87 42 tracy 86 43 Charles DeGaulle 74 44 Joe Moneypenny 71 45 Wormfarmer 59 45 Dying Probably 59 47 DevonDeathTrip 38 48 Arghton 28 49 Neol Edmunds 0 49 Gooseberry Crumble 0 49 Imelda 0 49 Sod's Law 0 49 Cpt. Hemlock 0

Swedish Balloon d'or nominee of 1963 Harry Bild has died at 88: https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/fotboll/a/bmd5yv/harry-bild-ar-dod Apparently not a member of the 1958 World cup finals team.

Unlikely obit, but I couldn't resist trying to go for the 13 points.

Thread for Rudy Giuliani, once called "America's mayor" after 9/11. A former lawyer and mostly successful former mayor of New York, then a failed presidential candidate who then became Donald Trump's personal lawyer and perpetually drunk little devil on Trump's right shoulder. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani He's 77 years old now, had prostate cancer, suffered a fall in 2017, got COVID in late 2020. Also, he's a perpetually drunk, flatulent mess: https://www.rawstory.com/rudy-giuliani-fart/ "Speaking to MSNBC on Tuesday, Michael Wolff explained that most Americans don't fully realize how far Rudy Giuliani has deteriorated." He's seriously drunk all the time, some memory problems are starting to appear, and his public appearances are getting more and more absurd. And his law license has been revoked. A prime candidate for a quickly approaching end.

Here is a recent gift of his, pointing me/us towards the band The Chromatics: Just 2 hours ago, I was telling my partner "that's a really good song, actually".

God damnit tracy, you're giving me scares...

Sad... someone I would not have been able to pick in a pool. A hero of mine. First movie I watched of his was Dune, still a movie I like to place in my personal top 5. Attended a university course on him, too (as an english major in a different time...). Was watching his stuff until late last year, when my partner and I finished the 3rd season of Twin Peaks. RIP.....

42 players so far. If this stays, the 20 players with the lowest seeding will compete for 10 slots to make a nice 32. Meaning 22 players have a free pass. So if you made the Top 16 last year you have a freebie, also if you did well but still lost. If even more players sign up these freebies will decline in number. But the Top16 of last year should still be safe. Edit: I will determine the seeding order at the weekend, i.e. maybe tomorrow.

Thank you all! It was a very close race in a bit of a difficult year. Hoping to get three in a row! But I'm not sure how many more I've got in me.

There's no recent death or news item to create this thread, but there are a couple of really old, really rich people worth watching: Warren Buffett, 83, 4th richest person alive, has been in the news for choosing his successor at Berkshire Hathaway. Charles and David Koch, 78 and 74, 6th richest people alive, CEOs of Koch Industries, have massively funded conservative politicians in favor of fossil fuels. Bernie Ecclestone, 83, under corruption charges and threatened as boss of Formula 1 racing. George Soros, 83, 26th richest person alive, massive supporter of The Democratic Party, doesn't look too healthy but there are no bad news so far. Ingvar Kamprad, 88, Founder of IKEA, very secretive. DEAD Sheldon Adelson, 80, Las Vegas casino magnate, another guy who spends millions of dollars on politicians to ensure that society will go on in a way he thinks is best even after his death Karl Albrecht, 94, 23rd richest person alive, Germany's richest guy and co-founder of ALDI, his brother died last year. When will it be his turn? DEAD Liliane Bettencourt, 91, 11th richest person alive and richest french person, owner of L'Oreal, was involved in a corruption scandal and legal trouble with her daughter. DEAD Also worth watching: The Walton Family, owners of Wal-Mart and maybe even Bill Gates who is still only 58, but looks much older, in my opinion.

Crem's fantasies are always partly founded in reality. Seems like Nolan died of pneumonia - probably made worse by chemo. And we've had quite a few pneumonia cases lately. So those who thought that cancer wouldn't kill her, are somewhat right (but still wrong in the end).

Couldn't figure out if she was actually as ill as she said or exaggerated.... She was either a joker or not on my team at all. Surprising, but not surprising..