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Everything is ok. If a song is eliminated from the game (0 points), please delete it so that the game remains clear.

I have to confess - I really love this song! Some kind of guilty pleasure, I guess

At the moment I don't have access to my PC, so I can only do the evaluation on Wednesday or Thursday. Thank you for your patience.

42 The Specials – Ghost Town 42 Blondie – Atomic 37 ABBA – The winner takes it all 33 Soft Cell – Tainted Love 32 David Bowie – Ashes to Ashes 30 David Bowie & Queen – Under Pressure 29 The Specials – Too much, too young 28 Olivia Newton-John & ELO - Xanadu +4 27 Police – Don´t stand so close to me 27 The Jam – Going underground / Dreams of children 27 Adam & the Ants – Stand and deliver 26 Barbra Streisand – Woman in love 25 Adam & the Ants – Prince Charming 23 Roxy Music – Jealous Guy 23 The Pretenders – Brass in pocket 23 The Jam – Start 22 Police – Every little thing she does is magic 22 Blondie – Call me 21 Detroit Spinners – Working my way back to you 21 Odyssey – Use it up and wear it out 20 John Lennon – Woman 20 Bucks Fizz – Making your mind up 16 Human League - Don't you want me 15 Kenny Rogers – Coward of the county 15 Dexy´s Midnight Runners – Geno 15 Fern Kinney – Together we are beautiful  15 M.A.S.H. – Theme from M.A.S.H. (Suicide is painless) 13 John Lennon – (Just like) Starting over 13 Smokey Robinson – Being with you 10 ABBA – Super Trouper  08 Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin – It´s my party -6 6 Aneka – Japanese Boy 5 Julio Iglesias - Begin the Begine (Volvera empezar)

Here is my Shadow List 2023 which is also used for the Competition Pool. I also have my first hit Ady Barkan 18.12.1983 - 01.11.2023 Andy Taylor Bajrakitiyabha, Princess of Thailand Claudia Porsche David Graham Eddie OK Adams Estelle Parsons Françoise Hardy Frank Field Frank McGarvey 17.03.1956 – 01.01.2023 Fritz Wepper George Alagiah 22.11.1955 - 24.07.2023 Gianluca Vialli 09.07.1964 - 06.01.2023 Helmut Berger 29.05.1944 - 18.05.2023 Henry Kissinger 27.05.1923 - 29.11.2023 Ingrid van Bergen Iris Apfel James Whale Janey Godley Jango Edwards 15.04.1950 - 04.08.2023 Joe Kinnear Jonnie Irwin Kat Bjelland Kate Keltie Katharine, Duchess of Kent Linda Nolan Liselotte Pulver Marianne Faithfull Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn Martin Walser 24.03.1927 - 26.07.2023 Michael Tilson Thomas Nana Mouskouri Natalie Fornasier 1994 - 14.01.2023 Nigel Starmer-Smith Rainer Langhans René Weller 21.11.1953 - 22.08.2023 Rhod Gilbert Rob Bolland Rob Burrow Roberta Flack Rolf Harris 30.03.1930 - 10.05.2023 Ryuichi Sakamoto 17.01.1952 - 28.03.2023 Shannen Doherty Simon Cowell (conservationist) Stephen Darby Steve McMichael Teresa Taylor 10.11.1962 - 18.06.2023 Tim Lobinger 03.09.1972 - 16.02.2023 Tina Turner 26.11.1939 - 24.05.2023 Tony Marshall 03.02.1938 - 16.02.2023 16/50

Interesting evaluation and statements about some candidates @Prophet. The German celebrities are probably actually different from the international ones and are not as open about reporting about their health conditions. When our list was ready I also thought about who could be a safety hit this year and I came up with 18 candidates! Wishful thinking! Let's be optimistic for 2023! Tony Marshall 16.02.2023 Traute Lafrenz-Page 06.03.2023 Tim Lobinger 16.02.2023 Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn Rolf Schimpf Claudia Porsche Henry Kissinger 29.11.2023 Hans Modrow 10.02.2023 Anita Kupsch Werner Michael Blumenthal Maria Riva Rainer Langhans René Weller 22.08.2023 Hugo Broch Dorothee Wilms Menahem Pressler 06.05.2023 Friedrich Grade 16.10.2023 Boris Bukowski (relapse) 8/18

I think that the list can actually top last year's list, the selection of candidates is not fundamentally bad or wrong. There are the usual suspects who stay on the list until they die (Kissinger, Barker, van Dyke, Greenspan etc) which is ok. There are good returnees (Woodward, Musharraf, Nolan, Turner) and good newcomers (Wagner, Harris, Sakamoto, Taylor). My problem with the list is quite simply that it's a little boring. The top 10 is almost static, there are hardly any big jumps or deep falls. Dick van Dyck could have dropped dramatically from 1 to 30 and would still have stayed on the list. There could have been a new entry or a re-entry to first place. The top 10 consists only of men; the first woman only comes in 15th place! Where are the younger but really very sick candidates like Vialli, Whale or Irwin? It makes no sense to exclude such candidates, after all, the DL also wants to collect points and break their own records. As you can see, things went really well this year... The whole list looks like it was put together by the so-called "white old men", with no desire for change or effort. And it probably was. It would be nice if something could change here in the future, so that both the selection of candidates and their placement are a bit more diverse, open and up-to-date.

Nigel Starmer-Smith

38 The Specials – Ghost Town 37 Olivia Newton-John & ELO - Xanadu +4 33 Blondie – Atomic 33 ABBA – The winner takes it all 31 Soft Cell – Tainted Love 28 David Bowie – Ashes to Ashes 27 David Bowie & Queen – Under Pressure 25 The Specials – Too much, too young 25 Adam & the Ants – Prince Charming 25 Police – Don´t stand so close to me 24 Kenny Rogers – Coward of the county 23 The Jam – Going underground / Dreams of children 22 Adam & the Ants – Stand and deliver 22 Barbra Streisand – Woman in love 21 John Lennon – Woman 21 Blondie – Call me 21 Detroit Spinners – Working my way back to you 21 The Pretenders – Brass in pocket 21 The Jam – Start 21 Odyssey – Use it up and wear it out 21 Roxy Music – Jealous Guy 20 Police – Every little thing she does is magic 20 Johnny Logan – What´s another year 20 Bucks Fizz – Making your mind up 20 Julio Iglesias – Begin the beguine (Volver a empezar) 19 Human League – Don’t you want me 18 Smokey Robinson – Being with you 17 Dexy´s Midnight Runners – Geno 17 Fern Kinney – Together we are beautiful 16 John Lennon – (Just like) Starting over 15 M.A.S.H. – Theme from M.A.S.H. (Suicide is painless) 14 ABBA – Super Trouper 14 Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin – It´s my party -6 11 Aneka – Japanese Boy 10 Don McLean – Crying 06 Blondie – The tide is high

When the Committee gets tired of making a decent list, they should give up the job. There are certainly enough people who would be happy to do it.

What is it and what did I win?

What an uninspired Top 10

My bad! But nobody missed it so for me there is no need to include it now. This song also wasn't very well received in the 70s round.

Feel free to enter again @RoverAndOut I would be glad. But I know what you mean: It would have been great if Pelé had gone from 41 to 1 and Benedict XVI had re-entered to 2. A lot of movement in the DL. Now I could imagine that it remains rather static at the top. Otherwise: Last official reminder to name a replacement or its placement for Benedict XVI my list: Just for info: I will most likely not be able to do the evaluation until the middle of next week, please be patient. Thanks!

Thanks for watching, @theoldlady

Servus, Grüezi und Hallo! As you can certainly imagine, the 2022 D-A-CH list fell short of its expectations. Benedict XVI as a hit seems almost like mockery - he would have been the better first hit of 2023. The Pope - disappointing as always Well, let's look ahead, let's hope for a more productive 2023 for our little list. This list was created by frleon, gcreptile, Prophet, TomTomTelekom, WEP and Book. Have fun! Unsere D-A-CH-Liste 2023 (12/50) rank/previous year/pick 01. (11) Tony Marshall, German Schlager and opera singer, *03.02.1938 - 16.02.2023 (85) 02. (06) Traute Lafenz-Page, German physician, member of resistance group “The White Rose”, *03.05.1919 - 06.03.2023 (103) 03. (09) Liselotte Pulver, Swiss actress, *11.10.1929 04. (---) Tim Lobinger, German pole vaulter, *03.09.1972 - 16.02.2023 (50) 05. (24) Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn, Austrian photographer and jet set expert, *09.12.1919 06. (03) Rolf Schimpf, German actor, *14.11.1924 07. (28) Martin Walser, German writer, *24.03.1927 - 26.07.2023 (96) 08. (29) Ingrid van Bergen, German actress, *15.06.1931 09. (35) Nadja Tiller, Austrian actress, *16.03.1929 - 21.02.2023 (93) 10. (---) Claudia Porsche, German politician (CDU) and academic, *06.08.1948 11. (36) Freddy Quinn, Austrian Schlager singer, *27.09.1931 12. (08) Henry Kissinger, German-American politician and diplomat, *27.05.1923 - 29.11.2023 (100) 13. (re) Hans Modrow, German politician (PDS), last premier of the GDR, *27.01.1928 - 10.02.2023 (95) 14. (---) Anita Kupsch, German film and theatre actress, *18.05.1940 15. (20) Peter Weck, Austrian film director and actor, *12.08.1930 16. (re) Jürgen Habermas, German philosopher and sociologist, *18.06.1929 17. (---) Hans Albert, German philosopher, *08.02.1921 - 24.10.2023 (102) 18. (45) Werner Michael Blumenthal, German-American economist and political advisor, *03.01.1926 19. (---) Josef Fritzl, Austrian offender, *09.04.1935 20. (re) Maria Riva, German actress and daughter of Marlene Dietrich, *13.12.1924 21. (10) Rainer Langhans, German writer, filmmaker and activist, *19.06.1940 22. (47) Eckart Dux, German film and voice actor, *19.12.1926 23. (05) Arthur Cohn, Swiss film producer, multiple Oscar winner, *04.02.1927 24. (---) Kathrin Schneider, German politician (SPD), *30.09.1962 25. (13) Mario Adorf, German-Austrian actor, *08.09.1930 26. (---) Jürgen Thormann, German film and voice actor and director, *12.02.1928 27. (---) Ralph Siegel, German record producer and songwriter, “Mr. Grand Prix”, *30.09.1945 28. (33) Janosch, German children's book author and illustrator, *11.03.1931 29. (14) Armin Mueller-Stahl, German actor, *17.12.1930 30. (31) Lothar Blumhagen, German actor and voice actor, *16.07.1927 - 10.01.2023 (95) 31. (---) Annette Rexrodt von Fircks, German besteller author, founder of health projects, *21.08.1961 32. (32) René Weller, German boxer, *21.11.1953 - 22.08.2023 (69) 33. (02) Fritz Wepper, German actor, *17.08.1941 34. (---) Nadja Seipel, German author and blogger, *18.07.1976 35. (48) Hugo Broch, German WW II Luftwaffe flight ace, *06.01.1922 36. (re) Arnulf Rainer, Austrian painter, *08.12.1929 37. (---) Franz Beckenbauer, German football player, *11.09.1945 38. (---) Dorothee Wilms, German politician (CDU), *11.10.1929 39. (---) Menahem Pressler, German pianist, founding member of Beaux Arts Trio, *16.12.1923 - 06.05.2023 (99) 40. (---) Peter Max, German-American pop art artist, *19.10.1937 41. (---) Friedrich Grade, German engineer and naval officer (U 96), *29.03.1916 - 13.10.2023 (107) 42. (---) Adolf Weiland, German politician (CDU), *14.08.1953 43. (---) Gardy Granaß, German actress, *07.01.1930 44. (---) Ursula Andress, Swiss actress, *19.03.1936 45. (---) Frank Auerbach, German-British painter, *29.04.1931 46. (---) Georg Uecker, German actor and LGBTIQ* rights activist, *06.11.1962 47. (---) Hans-Peter Korff, German actor, *24.08.1942 48. (re) Franz-Josef Wagner, German journalist and writer, *07.08.1943 49. (---) Boris Bukowski, Austrian singer and musician, *05.02.1946 50. (25) Alfred Brendel, Austrian pianist and poet, *05.01.1931

Benedict XVI is my next hit... so I need another third sub... Frank McGarvey this time, please.

Of course, Benedict XVI is a hit here. A long overdue hit, but tbh I wish he had only died tomorrow https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/papst-benedikt-xvi-im-alter-von-95-jahren-gestorben-18564762.html On our next year's list he would have been on 7th place. The new list will be posted soon.

To everyone who has already submitted a team: Please let me know (if you haven't done so) where your next sub should be placed. If I don't get any information, the sub moves up to position 50. I can't write to everyone now

Oh no, all my teams and stuff...

34 The Specials – Ghost Town 32 Olivia Newton-John & Electric Light Orchestra – Xanadu +4 30 ABBA – The winner takes it all 27 David Bowie & Queen – Under Pressure 27 Soft Cell – Tainted Love 26 Blondie – Atomic 25 Julio Iglesias – Begin the beguine (Volver a empezar) 25 The Specials – Too much, too young 25 Adam & the Ants – Prince Charming 25 David Bowie – Ashes to Ashes 24 Kenny Rogers – Coward of the county 23 Police – Don´t stand so close to me 23 Police – Every little thing she does is magic 23 The Jam – Going underground / Dreams of children 22 Adam & the Ants – Stand and deliver 21 John Lennon – Woman 21 Barbra Streisand – Woman in love 21 Blondie – Call me 21 Detroit Spinners – Working my way back to you 20 The Pretenders – Brass in pocket 20 Fern Kinney – Together we are beautiful 20 Johnny Logan – What´s another year 20 Odyssey – Use it up and wear it out 20 The Jam – Start 20 Roxy Music – Jealous Guy 20 Bucks Fizz – Making your mind up 20 Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin – It´s my party 18 Smokey Robinson – Being with you 18 M.A.S.H. – Theme from M.A.S.H. (Suicide is painless) 17 Dexy´s Midnight Runners – Geno 16 John Lennon – (Just like) Starting over 16 Shakin´ Stevens – This ole house -4 15 Human League – Don’t you want me 14 Aneka – Japanese Boy 12 ABBA – Super Trouper 10 Don McLean – Crying 10 Blondie – The tide is high 10 Kelly Marie – Feels like I´m in love 09 Michael Jackson – One day in your life 00 Shakin´ Stevens – Green Door -2

Ok, Jango Edwards as new sub No.3, please.

A few years ago I was an active member of a German music forum. I remember that polls has brought me there: What's the best German No. 1 hit, what's the best Oscar winning song, what's the best charting song of 2014 etc. In this context one smart member created a game called “Kill or Save”. We did artists songs (e.g. every released song by The Beatles, ABBA, Rihanna, Take That, Elvis Presley, Bananarama...), 80s songs, Best No. 2 songs – whatever came into our minds. The Rules: “Kill or Save” is all about finding the best or the favorite song within one topic. Initially, each song has 20 points. To increase or decrease the number of points, you can award 4 points and subtract 6 in each round. Deduction and addition of points can vary, e.g. add 2 x 2 points or subtract 2 x 3 points. Important: You can only vote once a day to keep it fair. Yes, I know it might get a bit confusing due to the different time zones we all live in, but I'm just appealing for fairness and honesty. So please only vote once a day! You always have to use the last vote as a guide. For a better overview, please mark your voting (+ 2, + 4 or -3, - 6) and classify the song according to its current value. Example: Starting round: 20 Agnetha – Song One 20 Liam – Song Two 20 Ringo – Song Three First Voter: 24 Agnetha – Song One +4 20 Ringo – Song Three 14 Liam – Song Two -6 Second Voter: 24 Agnetha – Song One 24 Ringo – Song Three +4 08 Liam – Song Two -6 Third Voter: 28 Agnetha – Song One +4 21 Ringo – Song Three -3 05 Liam – Song Two -3 Fourth Voter: 28 Agnetha – Song One 25 Ringo – Song Three +4 00 Liam – Song Two -6 The point value for kicking doesn't have to be an exact match, but you can't keep any points either, in which case there is no point returned since Liam could have been kicked with 5. Edit 30.10.2022: Kicking my own rule here because I didn't remember The winner will now be the one who doesn't get downvoted to zero. The next round will start. And so I thought to bring this little game to you, my dear Deathlisters. I hope that enough people will join this game to have a little fun. As this is a UK-centric forum I will start with a poll about the UK-No.1-songs of the 70s. Here are the UK-No.1-songs of the 70s (spoiler): (There will be some songs with a double a-side, e.g. "I don't want to talk about it / The first cut is the deepest". This is counted as one song.) Form each round songs will enter the last round, the Grand Finale, consisting of 25 songs: 1970/71: 27 songs = the last 4 songs will enter the Grand Finale 1972/73: 34 songs = the last 5 songs will enter the Grand Finale 1974/75: 41 songs = the last 6 songs will enter the Grand Finale 1976/77: 34 songs = the last 5 songs will enter the Grand Finale 1978/79: 32 songs = the last 5 songs will enter the Grand Finale In the Grand Finale, the best UK No.1 song of the 70s will be chosen by the DeathList forum users! We start with the years 1970 and 1971: 1970 - 1971 20 Edison Lighthouse – Love grows (where my Rosemary goes) 20 Lee Marvin – Wandrin´Star 20 Simon & Garfunkel – Bridge over troubled water 20 Dana – All kinds of everything 20 Norman Greenbaum – Spirit in the sky 20 England World Cup Squad – Back home 20 Christie – Yellow River 20 Mungo Jerry – In the summertime 20 Elvis Presley – The wonder of you 20 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles – Tears of a clown 20 Freda Payne – Band of gold 20 Matthews Southern Comfort – Woodstock 20 Jimi Hendrix Experience – Voodoo Chile 20 Dave Edmunds – I hear you knocking 20 Clive Dunn – Grandad 20 George Harrison – My sweet Lord 20 Mungo Jerry – Baby Jump 20 T.Rex – Hot love 20 Dave & Ansil Collins – Double Barrel 20 Dawn – Knock three times 20 Middle of the road – Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep 20 T.Rex – Get it on 20 Diana Ross – I´m still waiting 20 The Tams – Hey girl, don´t bother me 20 Rod Stewart – Maggie May 20 Slade – Coz I luv you 20 Benny Hill – Ernie (The fastest milkman in the west) Enjoy!

You found them, I see, enjoy!

As long as you are keep giving points to Xanadu it goes ok! Welcome!