Octopus of Odstock

Doesn't matter, QO in anyway.

Confirmed: https://crewe.nub.news/news/local-news/famous-crewe-musician-paul-spencer-dies-aged-53-232619 This briefly came up on BBC local news but suspect a QO will follow.

I've done this as a separate topic from the Time Added thread, because the Time Added thread is very catch-all, as a football thread will be. I can only go by the English Football League, as I don't have access to the Scottish records, but hopefully someone can copy and paste the Scottish only players for reference here. There are a number of people definitely alive and they come in the first set of information. Of those that I'm not certain of, there will definitely be some alive but there's no report recently on them to confirm that, or no general "oldest player" posts or snippets on the web. Barry Hugman's Footballers was the backup source for the list and basically it's been going through Google, BHF, UK and Ireland Family Records, Scottish Death Indexes and Probate searches to eliminate other possibilities. Some footballers I couldn't find death records for but when some clubs have gone "such and such is our oldest player" then it's made life easier. Here's the edited to include 1930-1932 births: First Name Surname DoB Clubs Google Other names Graham Bailey 22/03/1920 Huddersfield, Sheff Utd alive Thomas Graham Mike Kelly 30/11/1920 Crewe, Wolves x Michael John Eric Hampson 11/11/1921 Stoke, Stafford Rangers Australia? Syd Ward 26/11/1923 Bradford, Upton Colliery x John Taylor 24/06/1924 Bradford, Kilmarnock d. Canada? 1997 James Kelly 16/02/1925 Carlisle, Tottenham, Glenavon x James Patrick Ted Harding 05/04/1925 Crystal P, Coalville x Edward James Bill Mellor 29/06/1925 Accrington, Droyslden probably dead William Bill Parker 15/08/1925 Reading, Swindon, Exeter x Eryk Kubicki 18/08/1925 York, Polish Army x Eugeniusz Joe Lancaster 28/04/1926 Accrington, Manchester United alive Joseph Gerard Ray McKee 16/06/1926 Northampton, Finchley alive Raymond Trevor Eddie Lewis 21/06/1926 Leyton O x Trevor Hitchen 25/09/1926 Southport, Wigan, Oldham, Notts Cty, Wellington, Halifax alive Ken Williams 07/01/1927 York, Doncaster x Gordon Revel 19/09/1927 Mansfield alive in 2018 Gordon Harold Robert Williams 25/10/1927 Liverpool, Shrewsbury, Wrexham x Robert Raymond Bobby Godwin 03/02/1928 Swindon, Old Headlandians alive Robert Geoffrey Charles Campbell 27/02/1928 Oldham, Rutherglen Glencairn x Reg Chapman 14/06/1928 Crewe, Hereford x John Scott 18/07/1928 Leeds, Workington alive John Alfred Dick Taylor 21/08/1928 Southport, Everton alive Richard Marshall Bernard Kelly 21/08/1928 Brentford, Bath City d. 2007? Bernard Alexander Harry Jarvis 08/10/1928 Notts County, Worksop alive Alan Layton 27/11/1928 Barrow, Bolton Alive in 2012, Canada Cecil Steeds 11/01/1929 Bristol City, Bristol Rovers alive Harry Williams 24/02/1929 Swindon, Bury, West Ham, Man U x Henry George John Core 29/03/1929 Halifax alive Joe Harris 08/04/1929 Oldham, Blackburn x Ernie Bond 04/05/1929 Carlisle, Man Utd alive James Ernest Don Gibson 12/05/1929 Leyton O, Sheff W, Man U alive Thomas Richard Donald Ron Steel 03/06/1929 Darlington, Bishop Auckland x John Cook 26/06/1929 Bristol Rovers x John Albert Roy Killin 18/07/1929 Lincoln, Man U alive Harold Roy Terry Robinson 08/11/1929 Brentford, Northampton, England Amateur alive Hocarth? Johnny Langland 09/11/1929 hartlepool, Blyth, Chesterfield, Sunderland, Silksworth alive Liam Coll 16/12/1929 Accrington probably dead William Sean Johnny Moffatt 22/12/1929 Brighton, Bellshill x John Black Ron Harbertson 23/12/1929 Lincoln, Darlington, Wrexham, Grimsby, Bradford, Brighton, Newcastle alive Jim Storey 30/12/1929 Darlington, Rochdale, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Exeter x Eric Marsden 03/01/1930 Crystal Palace, Southend, Winchester, Shrewsbury alive in 2020 Reg Pearce 12/01/1930 Peterborough, Sunderland, Luton alive Reginald Stanley Fred Higgins 21/01/1930 Crystal Palace GRO OKAY Frederick Thomas Albert Uytenboogaardt 05/03/1930 Charlton alive in RSA Albert George Cecil Law 10/03/1930 Derby, Bury GRO OKAY probably dead in RSA Cecil Richard Jack Hobbs 17/04/1930 Bournemouth, Swanage GRO OKAY John Eric Len Edwards 30/05/1930 Crewe, Brighton, Sheff W, Wrexham GRO OKAY Leonard Owen Doug Fletcher 17/09/1930 Scunthorpe, Bury, Sheffield Weds, Darlington, Halifax Albert Childs 25/09/1930 Liverpool alive Albert Robert Allan Senior 29/09/1930 Halifax alive (alive in Wakefield 2018) Allan Gordon James McQuade 14/10/1930 Halifax, Dumbarton Colin McDonald 15/10/1930 Burnley and England alive Colin Agnew Eric Gill 03/11/1930 Brighton, Charlton alive Eric Norman Peter Higham 08/11/1930 Bolton, Doncaster, Nottm Forest, Preston, Portsmouth, Wigan alive Tommy Derbyshire 10/12/1930 Hartlepool, East Yorks Regiment poss alive - 2018 Thomas L Robert Harrison 23/12/1930 Carlisle, Stockport, Mossley Bert Carberry 16/01/1931 Gillingham, Port Vale, Norwich, Exeter Robert Laurie Adams 14/02/1931 Watford Laurence Edward Arthur Tyrer 25/02/1931 Aldershot, Shrewsbury, Leeds Utd alive Arthur Spencer Matt Gemmell 10/03/1931 Portsmouth, Swindon poss alive in Scotland 2018 Alex Bell 13/03/1931 Exeter, Grimsby, Partick Alexander Stewart Jimmy Thomson 17/03/1931 Southend, Raith ALIVE James Donaldson Ralph Granville 23/04/1931 Clyde, Nottingham Forest, Gateshead alive in 2005 in Scotland? Anthony Ralph Dennis Churms 08/05/1931 Coventry, Exeter, Rotherham alive Dennis John Tommy Wilkinson 08/05/1931 Hartlepool, Blackhall Colliery David McDonald 09/05/1931 Crystal Palace, Dundee Violet David Anderson Joe Eaton 16/05/1931 Mansfield, Langwith BC GRO OKAY Joseph David Willie McInnes 20/05/1931 Southport, Accrington alive William Devlin 30/05/1931 Carlisle, Peterborough John Robert Eric Jones 23/06/1931 Accrington, Southport, Doncaster, Preston, Nottm Forest alive Brian Cripsey 26/06/1931 Hull City, Wrexham alive Brian Samuel Ron Stockin 27/06/1931 Cardiff, Grimsby, Walsall, Wolves alive Mick Cullen 31/07/1931 Derby, Grimsby, Luton, Scotland alive Michael Joseph David Hawkins 11/08/1931 Gillingham, Sheppey United GRO OKAY David John Ken Scott 13/08/1931 Derby, Mansfield Don Cowan 17/08/1931 Darlington GRO OKAY, alive 2021 Bill Finney 05/09/1931 Rochdale, Crewe, QPR, Birmingham, Stoke Charles William Thomas Billy Waters 19/09/1931 Millwall, Wrexham, Swansea, Southend, Stoke, Blackpool GRO OKAY, alive 2013 in wales William Anthony Des Palmer 23/09/1931 Swansea, Wales, Liverpool, Derby alive in Australia Desmond Frederick Charlie Calow 30/09/1931 Bradford PA, Cliftonville GRO OKAY/alive 2020 Charles John Herbert Gerry Smyth 05/11/1931 Chester, Cardiff Bert Harris 21/11/1931 Everton, Tranmere, Southport alive Albert Edward Ken Jenkin 27/11/1931 Grimsby alive Noel Gilbert 25/12/1931 Norwich City alive Len Roe 11/01/1932 Brentford, Ruislip Manor alive in 2014 Maurice Leonard George Brown 12/01/1932 Crewe, Stenhousemuir Bill Leivers 29/01/1932 Doncaster, Manchester City, Chesterfield alive William Ernest Joe Sharman 02/02/1932 Derby, Gresley, Bradford alive (Joseph) Donald William John McTavish 02/02/1932 Manchester City alive in 2009 in Scotland John Robert Byron Davies 05/02/1932 Newport, Leeds alive in 2017 Jimmy Rolfe 08/02/1932 Crewe, Barrow, Chester, Liverpool alive in 2017 Pat Thompson 11/02/1932 Brighton, Topsham Patrick Alfred Neil Langman 21/02/1932 Plymouth, Colchester, Bath alive Bobby Seith 09/03/1932 Burnley, Dundee alive Dave Richardson 11/03/1932 Barrow, Swindon, Grimsby, Leicester alive in 2017 Ray Snowball 16/03/1932 Darlington alive Alan Gee 16/03/1932 Rotherham John McGrath 21/03/1932 Notts County, Darlington prob dead Tommy Quigley 26/03/1932 QPR, Portsmouth, Barry Town Thomas Cook Calvin Symonds 29/03/1932 Rochdale, Bermuda alive Roderick Calvin Hilgrove Ron Ward 29/03/1932 Darlington, Tottenham Henry Ronald Jimmy Walker 29/03/1932 Northern Ireland, Doncaster, Linfield Eric Doughty 09/04/1932 Arsenal, Plymouth alive Keith Abbiss 26/04/1932 Brighton, Letchworth Keith Douglas Ken Smales 03/05/1932 Hull alive Peter Rees 05/05/1932 Tranmere alive Peter Noel Peter Smith 06/05/1932 Gillingham, Fleetland Peter John Robert Scrugham 15/05/1932 Workington, Cleaton Moor alive Ray DeGruchy 18/05/1932 Grimsby, Chesterfield, Nottm Forest alive Raymond Philip Roy Vairey 10/06/1932 Stockport Roy Henry Colin Bettany 15/06/1932 Torquay, Birmingham, Crewe alive Colin David Arthur Barnard 20/06/1932 Bolton,Stockport, Southport alive Robert Bloor 08/07/1932 Crewe Ron Tulloch 15/07/1932 Berea, South Africa, Hull Roland Ray Hampson 27/07/1932 Reading, Bournemouth, Manchester United, Aldershot alivein 2015 Raymond Geoffrey Johnny King 09/08/1932 Crewe, Stoke, Cardiff alive John William Micky Stewart 16/09/1932 Charlton, Corinthian Casuals alive Michael James Jim Lovie 19/09/1932 Peterhead, Bury, Bournemouth, Chesterfield alive in 2018 James Theirs Harrison Joe Thomas 22/09/1932 Barnsley, Wolves, Mansfield, Chesterfield John Charles Jack Harrison 30/09/1932 Crewe Colin Askey 03/10/1932 Mansfield, Walsall, Port Vale alive Harry Sandys 08/10/1932 Torquay, Yeovil Harold Albert Norman Crickett 13/10/1932 Carlisle, Raffles Rovers alive Peter Thomas 18/10/1932 Exeter, Cardiff, Newport Peter John Tommy Clish 19/10/1932 West Ham, Darlington alive 2018 Thomas Partridge Gordon Jago 22/10/1932 Charlton alive Gordon Harold Jimmy Belcher 31/10/1932 Brentford, Ipswich, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Leyton Orient alive in 2015, Dagenham James Alfred Stan Taylor 17/11/1932 Southport Ronnie Sharp 22/11/1932 Doncaster, Arbroath Bobby Williams 24/11/1932 New Brighton, Chester Robert Francis Ronnie Waldock 06/12/1932 Sheff Utd, Gillingham, Middlesbrough, Plymouth, Scunthorpe, Coventry alive Richard Jackson 13/12/1932 Rotherham, York Richard George Mike Tomkys 14/12/1932 QPR, Fulham alive Michael George Tommy Cronin 17/12/1932 Reading, Fulham Thomas Patrick Bernard Weakley 20/12/1932 Rotherham alive in 2018 Derek McLean 21/12/1932 Hartlepool, Middlesbrough alive John Derek

Recent reports suggest a minimum of 375 former footballers have dementia or some form of degenerative brain deisease, but other people like Tony Cascarino suspect it is a lot more according to reports. For privacy reasons, not all 375 are going to reveal but with so many footballers now coming public and with the hapless Gordon Taylor now gone at the PFA, many more may now reveal their plight. I thought it would be a good idea to record those living for research purposes. I know there are much more, but I can add them on in due course as of course this can be amended. Forename Surname Age in 2024 Clubs International Caps Harry Jarvis 96 Notts County, Worksop Enrique Collar 90 Athletico Madrid, Cadiz, Valencia, Murcia Spain 16 Cliff Jones 89 Swansea, Tottenham, Fulham Wales 59 Jim MacLean 88 Dunfermline Billy Wilson 88 Linfield, Portadown, Burnley, Ballymena Alan Peacock 87 Middlesbrough, Leeds, Plymouth Argyle England 6 Nair Silva 87 Corinthians Brazil 1 Ron Yeats 87 Dundee United, Liverpool, Tranmere Scotland 2 Carlos Bilardo 86 San Lorenzo, Deportivo Español, Estudiantes Frank Wignall 85 Everton, Nottingham Forest, Wolves, Derby County, Mansfield, King's Lynn England 2 Alan Roper 85 Walsall Gilberto Della Breda 85 Kortrijk, Gent, Standard Liege Denis Law 84 Huddersfield, Manchester City, Manchester United, Torino Scotland 55 Xavier Stierli 84 FC Zurich Switzerland 12 Alan Spence 84 Southport, Sunderland, Darlington, Oldham, Chester Len Willett 84 Wrexham, Congleton Jose Zico Dias 84 Nacional, Paranese Hughie McIlmoyle 84 Leicester, Rotherham, Carlisle, Wolves, Middlesbrough, Bristo C, Preston, Morton Alex Stuart 83 Dundee, Dundee United John McNamee 83 Newcastle, Workington, Celtic, Hibs, Hartlepool, Blackburn Mike Bailey 82 Charlton, Hereford United, Wolves England 2 Rod Thornhill 82 Reading, Poole Town Hugh Ryden 81 Bristol Rovers, Stockport County, Chester, Halifax Gordon Wallace 81 Montrose, Raith, Dundee, Dundee United, Seattle Sounders Jorge Peralta 81 Club Sport Uruguary, Herediano Costa Rica 1 Alan Gilliver 80 Huddersfield, Blackburn, Rotherham, Brighton, Lincoln, Bradford, Stockport Nelson Acosta 80 Huracan Buceo, Penarol Peter Cormack 78 Hibernian, Nottingham Forest, Liverpool, Bristol City, Partick Thistle Scotland 9 Dave Watson 78 Notts County, Rotherham, Sunderland, Manchester City, Stoke, Southampton, Derby England 65 John Tudor 78 Coventry, Sheffield United, Newcastle United, Stoke, KAA Gent Dave Boylen 77 Grimsby Town Billy Sinclair 77 Greenock Morton, Chelsea, Glentoran, Kilmarnock, Linfield, Sligo Rovers Chris Barnard 76 Southend, Ipswich, Torquay, Charlton Gareth Davies 75 Wrexham Wales 3 Tony Parkes 75 Blackburn Rovers Barry Whitbread 75 Lancaster, Altrincham and Runcorn, Singapore manager Tommy Cassidy 74 Glentoran, Newcastle, Burnley Northern Ireland 24 Alex Cropley 73 Hibernian, Arsenal, Aston Villa, Newcastle United, Toronto Blizzard, Portsmouth Scotland 2 Terry McDermott 73 Bury, Newcastle United, Liverpool England 23 Frank Womble 73 Rotherham, Crewe, Halifax Mick Lyons 73 Everton, Sheffield Wednesday, Grimsby Trevor Whymark 73 Ipswich, Derby, Grimsby, Vancouver Whitecaps, Southend, Peterborough England 1 Willie Young 72 Aberdeen, Tottenham, Arsenal, Nottingham Forest, Norwich, Brighton, Darlington Dave Serella 72 Nottingham Forest, Walsall, Blackpool Osvaldo Aquino 72 San Lorenzo, Gurani, Olimpia Paraguay Daniel Passarella 71 Sarmineto, River Plate, Fiorentina, Inter Milan Argentina 70 Kees Doornebal 71 Christchurch United Stuart Parker 70 Blackpool, Southend, Chesterfield, Blackburn, Bury, Chester etc. Jimmy Calderwood 69 Birmingham, Cambridge, Sparta Rotterdam, Willem II, Roda, Heracles Dave Cusack 68 Sheffield Wednesday, Southend, Millwall, Doncaster, Rotherham, Boston Dietmar Constantini 68 LASK, SWW Innsbruck Pierre Vermeulen 68 Rida, Feyenoord, MVV, PSG, Tours, Angers Holland 9 John Deehan 67 Aston Villa, Norwich, West Brom, Ipswich, Barnsley Edgardo Bauza 66 Rosario, Verecruz, Atletico Jr, Independiente Argentina 3 Gordon Cowans 66 Aston Villa, Blackburn, Derby, Wolves, Sheffield United, Bradford, Stockport, Burnley England 10 Steve Elliott 66 Nottingham Forest, Preston, Luton, Bury, Bolton, Walsall, Rochdale Steve Norris 65 Port Vale, Leek Town Brendan Ormsby 64 Aston Villa, Leeds, Shrewsbury, Doncaster, Scarborough, Wigan Colin Gibson 64 Aston Villa, Manchester United, Port Vale, Leicester, Blackpool, Walsall Jan Furtok 62 GKS Katowice, Eintract Frankfurt, Hamburg Poland 36 Kevin Hetherington 61 Ayr, Queen of the South, Annan Jan Jaap Keistra 59 Veendam, Groningen Bruce Murray 58 Washington Stars, Maryland, Millwall, Stockport, Ayr, Atlanta Ruckus United States 85 Martin Ogg 55 FC Schaffhausen

Crossley was first with Chris Bart-Williams too. Terrible shame about both Campbell and Sarkic.

Although there is an argument this could be within the Time Added thread, to be fair there is 8,000,000 threads about music, so why not two about football. Some of those interested enough would have noticed my posts on early deaths of World Cup Players - but this is Deathlist and DDP ideas are wanted, I am sure and it is unlikely Emile Heskey, Paolo Wanchope and Philippe Lahm are going to be on many death pools. In time, I& will try and do all the pre-1962 surviving players, but for now, I will round up the 1950 players and pre-1938 - of which there is only one, Rene Llense, who is near 100 (EDIT Now dead). He was however a squad player who never played. Of the 1950 players, there are a maximum of 40 alive. However that World Cup saw a lot of South American teams, whose players are virtual unknowns, so the likelihood is that more Mexicans, Chilean, Bolivian and Paraguyan players are dead. 1954 and 1958 should be slightly more accurate. Some famous names on there though and some certainly worth a stab on the DDP. This will also be where other World Cup Players' deaths can be posted - and why not start as I mean to go on, with the death of Jan Zlocha, who played for the Czechoslovakian team in 1970 - 7 of their squad dead already. http://www.cas.sk/cl...ntant-cssr.html (IN Czech) Note the below is only who played, not squad members (like Llense); Switzerland||| Player ||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||Adolphe Hug|||||||||||||||(1923-09-23)23 September 1923 (aged 26) Yugoslavia||| Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||| DoB/Age 13||||||||||||||||||||||||Željko Čajkovski|||||||||(1925-05-05)5 May 1925 (aged 25) Mexico|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 1|||||||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Carbajal||||||(1929-06-07)7 June 1929 (aged 21) 16|||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Guevara|||||||||1930 8||||||||||||||||||||||||||Héctor Ortiz||||||||||||||||(1928-12-20)20 December 1928 (aged 21) 9||||||||||||||||||||||||||Mario Pérez||||||||||||||(1927-02-19)19 February 1927 (aged 23) 7|||||||||||||||||||||||||Carlos Septién||||||||||(1923-01-18)18 January 1923 (aged 27) England||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -|||||||||||||||||||||||Roy Bentley||||||||||||||||||||(1924-05-17)17 May 1924 (aged 26) Chile||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/ Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Álvarez Jiménez|||||||||||||(1928-05-23)23 May 1928 (aged 22) 2||||||||||||||||||||||Arturo Farías|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1927-11-01)1 November 1927 (aged 22) 15|||||||||||||||||||Carlos Ibáñez|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1931-11-30)30 November 1931 (aged 18) 8||||||||||||||||||||||Luis Mayanés|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-01-15)15 January 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||Manuel Muñoz|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-04-28)28 April 1928 (aged 22) 12|||||||||||||||||||Andrés Prieto|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1928-12-19)19 December 1928 (aged 21) 3|||||||||||||||||||||Fernando Roldán||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1921-04-01)1 April 1921 (aged 29) USA|||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 6|||||||||||||||||||||Walter Bahr||||||||||||||||||(1927-04-01)1 April 1927 (aged 23) Sweden||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 9|||||||||||||||||||||Karl-Erik Palmér||||||||(1929-04-17)17 April 1929 (aged 21) Italy||||||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 8|||||||||||||||||||Giampiero Boniperti||||||||(1928-07-04)4 July 1928 (aged 21) 14|||||||||||||||||Osvaldo Fattori||||||||||||||||(1922-06-22)22 June 1922 (aged 28) -2||||||||||||||||||Attilio Giovannini|||||||||||||(1924-07-30)30 July 1924 (aged 25) 17||||||||||||||||Egisto Pandolfini|||||||||||||||(1926-02-19)19 February 1926 (aged 24) Paraguay||||||||Player||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age 8|||||||||||||||||||||||||Atilio López||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1925-02-05)5 February 1925 (aged 25) 9|||||||||||||||||||||||||Darío Saguier||||||||||||||||||||||||||(1926-09-11)11 September 1926 (aged 23) Bolivia|||||||||||Player|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||DoB/Age -4|||||||||||||||||||||Antonio Greco||||||||||||||||(1923-09-17)17 September 1923 (aged 26) 24 survivors (who played a game) **Note this (being alive) is presumed in the case of 3 teams*** There's also only a few others who might be alive that were a squad member: Switzerland: Friedlander, Lusenti, Siegenthaler, Beerli, Gyger Yugoslavia: Zlatkovic Mexico: Cuburu, Cordoba, M Gutierrez Chile: Rojas Italy: Caprile Paraguay: Berni, Paredes, Canete, Cantero Bolivia: a lot of them but I think they've all gone

Apologies it's actually 8. Ken Brown as well. So with McDonald, Peacock and Douglas, you can still field a team of Winterbottom players but no subs (as per the time I guess)

Just 7 additional but note Eastham never played for Winterbottom. He made his debut for Ramsey in May 1963. Blunstone McGuiness Holliday McNeil Crawford O'Grady Hinton Sad news about Tommy Banks. Last England International who was born in the 1920's. Colin McDonald takes over the poisoned chalice now.

Barry Butler, ex Chester Stalwart under @harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy has died, aged 64. https://chesterfc.com/barry-butler-1962-2024/

EFL are f*****g useless at everything so its in line for them not to reply. But fabulous hes doing well, thank you.

I'm very close to completing 1933 and 1934 births onto the main list On Wikipedia - Christy Fletcher - Wiki, is listed as being 90 years of age. Sadly, not, he died as long ago as 50 years ago in Scotland; where he moved to play football after his spell at Brentford; dying at just 40 years of age. I do wonder if some of those on the list have died so long ago, it's no longer easy to find records on them. Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Gender Year Ref RD Name FLETCHER CHRISTOPHER COL 40 MCMANUS M 1974 573 / 94 CAMBUSLANG PS Hugman's only - not on Wiki - Derek Harvey, ex Doncaster: Record information. Name Mr William Derek Harvey Birth 30 Sep 1934 Death 7 Jan 2013 Residence Doncaster, South Yorkshire, England

Finally solved this one! After going on newspapers.com, it features a casting director called Ralph Winters. It mentions his wife, Jackie Russell and two children. It mentions that they live in Hollywood. After searching, Ancestry, a Ralph H Winters married a much younger Jacqueline Ruth Russell in 1958 So her birthdate is: Name Jacqueline Ruth Russell Gender Female Marriage Age 22 Affidavit or License Age 22 Birth Date 4 Jul 1936 Marriage Date abt 1958 Affidavit or License Date 21 Feb 1959 License Place Maricopa, Arizona, USA Spouse Ralph Harold Winters Description Marriage Affidavits 1959 Is she still alive? It appears so: Name Jacqueline Ruth Russell [J R Russell] [Jacqueline R Smith] Birth Jul 1936 Residence 2017-2020 Alvin, Texas, USA

Steve Gaines seems to be making good progress overall - Link

And Cedric 'Wise old' Elf in Ben and Holly which features his voice talents a lot more.

Thank you. For search purposes, Jeanette Charles has died.

Occasionally, a player presumed dead, largely due to zero information, or too common a name, is actually found to be alive.. or was in this case. Allen Oliver Wiki, born 1924 was presumed dead because of a post by Gateshead's historian that such and such (someone younger, can't remember who) was now the oldest. But actually, up until April, he was still alive. - considering the lack of people at his funeral, this might have slipped the net. The full article is here - https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/stockport-county-anti-wrexham-barcelona-3026246 - but the key bit is this: PS Whilst I'm at it, for those who update Hugman - John Trusler, ex-Brighton - Father John Trussler Mother Evelyn B Berry Birth 6 Jul 1934 Steyning, Sussex, England Death 15 Apr 2022 Ron Hall, ex-Walsall: Canada, Obituary Collection, 1898-Current Death, burial, cemetery & obituaries Record information. Name Ronald Hall Parent Thomas Major Hall; May Hall Child Roushas Relatives Carol Birth 8 Feb 1933 Dudley, Worchestshire, England Death 2008

Former Shrewsbury and Hereford wing-half Ralph Oliver has died, just after his 90th birthday - http://bullsnews.blogspot.com/2024/05/a-tribute-to-ralph-oliver.html

Not complaining, merely an observation.... Nature's Way, currently on top of the DDP theme team, doesn't look like a complete theme team to me. Field, Burrow, Whale, Roche, Brooks etc. I get, but Newhart and Rantzen?

I don't think that source is right to be honest. Waiting for next Ryerson update tomorrow and then if nothing in there, it might trickle through. To be honest, Walker suffered from "Lotus 2nd driver syndrome". Look at Taylor, Spence, Arundell, Miles, Oliver, even Graham Hill to a degree. All pretty much given inferior equipment to Clark, Rindt and Fittipaldi, despite Chapman's protests they were in equal machinery. But not scoring a point in one of the quickest and most iconic cars of all time still doesn't look good. He was quite brilliant at Formula 3 level, but maybe Formula 1 - especially in one of the top seats - was a step too much.

Dave Walker obit https://autoaction.com.au/2024/05/31/aussie-f1-racer-david-walker-dies Now I've seen Wiki has gone for 24th May but I've not seen anything to verify that date yet. Still TBC

Ffs. 3 in about a month. RIP Trevor.

Oldracingcars.com still updates for some drivers but it's often been queried if it's a genuine source. It's basically the racing Hugmans so it should be okay. That said Walker is not updated on there yet.

Former Lotus Grand Prix driver Dave Walker died last week. Trying to get more information. Not entirely sure if a full obit will come but will keep an eye out for local news/Ryerson.

Ray Faulkner IS on Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Faulkner Turned 90 yesterday... er, actually no. England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2022 Death, burial, cemetery & obituaries Record information. Name Mr Raymond Arthur Faulkner Birth 26 May 1934 Death 8 Apr 2004 Residence Boston, Lincolnshire, England

A 1934 birth. not on Wikipedia, but he is on Hugman's. Keith Turner, instead of being 90 this year, ex-Nottingham Forest actually died as long ago as 1967, aged just 32! Definitely the same man as on the Ancestry tree, there's a picture of him in his Forest gear. Died of coronary thrombosis and a myocardial infarction. Keith John TurnerTurner Family Tree Matching Person details Spouse Freda Jean Jones Father William Henry Turner Mother Gladys Evelyn Brown Children Adrian Birth 9 Apr 1934 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Death 9 Mar 1967 Coventry, Warwickshire, England Residence 1939 Warwickshire, England