DL in "The Sun"

[Vinegar Tits 592]

I have to say that the Sun's writers are among the most talented journos in the world.

Highest number of journos with firsts out of all the media in the UK I think.

 

Writing dumbed down copy is an artform in itself and shouldn't be dismissed. You may not like the editorial diktat but there's nothing wrong with the writing (apart from some of the twunt columnists that is).

[Death Watch Beatle 40]

The Sun used to be the newspaper of choice at "Fry-Days" chip shop - but these days all the wrappers are plain paper.

 

DWB

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

A family member of mine was in a Sun article,

 

the entire thing was bullshit, full of half truths and downright lies.

 

The scumbags who write this crap deserve to be kneecapped.

Was there any legal action taken?

 

I doubt it.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

I have to say that the Sun's writers are among the most talented journos in the world.

Highest number of journos with firsts out of all the media in the UK I think.

 

Writing dumbed down copy is an artform in itself and shouldn't be dismissed. You may not like the editorial diktat but there's nothing wrong with the writing (apart from some of the twunt columnists that is).

The best they can do with their Firsts, is to write crap in The Sun,

 

What a waste of an education.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

A family member of mine was in a Sun article,

 

the entire thing was bullshit, full of half truths and downright lies.

 

The scumbags who write this crap deserve to be kneecapped.

Was there any legal action taken?

 

I doubt it.

It's virtually impossible for an ordinary person to take out a libel action in this country. The costs are totally prohibitive.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

It's virtually impossible for an ordinary person to take out a libel action in this country. The costs are totally prohibitive.

True, I'll give you that one.

 

So I assume the matter was taken up with the Press Complaints Commission, free of charge.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

It's virtually impossible for an ordinary person to take out a libel action in this country. The costs are totally prohibitive.

True, I'll give you that one.

 

So I assume the matter was taken up with the Press Complaints Commission, free of charge.

Now who runs the impartial PCC,

 

Oh yes members of the press.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

Now who runs the impartial PCC,

 

Oh yes members of the press.

Not true.

 

 

 

COMMISSION MEMBERS

 

Sir Christopher Meyer, KCMG

Chairman

 

Matti Alderson

Member of the Better Regulation task Force 1998-

Director General of the Advertising Standards Authority 1990 - 2000

 

Roger Alton

Editor, The Observer

 

Professor The Lord Chan

Visiting Professor in Ethnic Health, University of Liverpool

Former member, Commission for Racial Equality

 

 

Edmund Curran

Editor-in-chief, Independent News and Media NI

 

Paul Dacre

Editor-in-Chief, Daily Mail

 

Jane Ennis

Editor, NOW Magazine

 

Mary Francis CBE

Director General of the Association of British Insurers 1999-2005

 

Vivien Hepworth

Former Chairman of Surrey and Sussex Healthcare NHS Trust

 

Peter Hill

Editor, Daily Express

 

Paul Horrocks

Editor, Manchester Evening News

 

 

Adam Phillips

Chairman, ESOMAR Professional Standards Committee

 

Eve Salomon

Solicitor

Former Director of Legal Services, Radio Authority

 

Dianne Thompson CBE

Chief Executive, Camelot Group plc

 

Derek Tucker

Editor, Aberdeen Press & Journal

 

The Rt Rev John Waine KCVO

Chairman of the University of Essex Foundation

Bishop of Chelmsford, 1986 - 96

Clerk of the Closet to The Queen 1989-1996

 

 

Rear Admiral Nick Wilkinson CB

Secretary of the Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee 1999-2004

Principal of the Joint Service Defence College at Greenwich 1994-1997

[Anubis the Jackal 76]

I refer the honourable gentleman to the question I posed earlier.

 

In my opinion, Keef has never seen Deathlist, has never been on The Deathlist and has never expressed an opinion on Deathlist, either one way or the other. This story is naught but a tissue of fabrication from beginning to end and, as such, is indicative of the level of intellectual rigour that Sun journalists aspire to.

 

My Lord, the prosecution rests.

[Anubis the Jackal 76]

The Rt Rev John Waine KCVO

Chairman of the University of Essex Foundation

Bishop of Chelmsford, 1986 - 96

Clerk of the Closet to The Queen 1989-1996

Tee hee hee.

 

John Waine...closet

 

Tee hee hee.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

I refer the honourable gentleman to the question I posed earlier.

 

In my opinion, Keef has never seen Deathlist, has never been on The Deathlist and has never expressed an opinion on Deathlist, either one way or the other. This story is naught but a tissue of fabrication from beginning to end and, as such, is indicative of the level of intellectual rigour that Sun journalists aspire to.

 

My Lord, the prosecution rests.

I broadly agree with that.

 

It was obviously mentioned to him at some stage, perhaps even during the interview, about the existence of DL and his position in it.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

There seem to be a lot of journos in there,

 

The PCC is a toothless watchdog, even if a Newspaper is forced to print a retraction, that retraction is usually only tiny in comparison to the original article.

 

To be fair any retraction or apology should have to be on the exact page and be the exact same size as the original article.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

There seem to be a lot of journos in there,

 

The PCC is a toothless watchdog, even if a Newspaper is forced to print a retraction, that retraction is usually only tiny in comparison to the original article.

 

To be fair any retraction or apology should have to be on the exact page and be the exact same size as the original article.

True, I suppose.

 

The main problems with issuing libel actions is that everything about your private life is made public.

 

For example, if The Sun ran a story saying I was cheating on my missus with, say, Billie Piper, I would issue a writ.

 

But The Sun would claim they have not slurred my character because I have cheated on the missus many times before, and people know about it.

 

So The Sun would win.

 

Ms Piper might not be too happy, though, and she'd have a good chance of winning her own action, if she took it.

[Josco 49]

If Billie Piper was in the frame, so to speak, it would be a chance worth taking.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

For example, if The Sun ran a story saying I was cheating on my missus with, say, Billie Piper, I would issue a writ.

No you wouldn't, you'd keep silent and hope that everybody thought it was true.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

 

For example, if The Sun ran a story saying I was cheating on my missus with, say, Billie Piper, I would issue a writ.

No you wouldn't, you'd keep silent and hope that everybody thought it was true.

You seem to know me too well.

 

Very tasty, is young Miss Piper - but sadly too young for me.

 

How many Dr Who's are still alive?

 

Colin Baker, Tom Baker, Chris Ecclestone, Dave Tennant, Peter Davidson, Syvester McCoy, Paul McGann (if you count him). Thinks that's it.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

How many Dr Who's are still alive?

The only correct answer to that question is,

 

Too many.

 

Doctor Who is to SciFi what The Sun is to informed opinion.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

 

How many Dr Who's are still alive?

The only correct answer to that question is,

 

Too many.

 

Doctor Who is to SciFi what The Sun is to informed opinion.

Actually, your avatar made me think about how similar The Doctor is to the Pope.

 

1) They often regenerate

2) People either love them or hate them

3) They always surround themselves with attractive, women but aren't allowed to sleep with them.

4) The Pope is chosen by cardinals, Doc Who is chosen by BBC executives - who commit cardinal sins.

5) They are alwys compared to their predecessors

5) Lots of people think this one should be the last one!

[Godot 149]

I've spoken to Emily Cox (writer of said feature) a number of times due to my job. I don't recall ever mentioning this place to her before but certainly will next time I speak to her 

Does The Sun actually employ writers

 

Fiction writers I suppose, as it certainly contains no journalism.

I'm sorry to have to do this, but I'm not putting up with the contunued slagging-off of Sun journalists.

 

I have never worked for them myself, although I have spent several years with the Mirror Group, but I have to say that the Sun's writers are among the most talented journos in the world.

 

It isn't easy for intelligent people to write stories in a way that the, erm, less educated will understand.

 

Look at the people who work at the Sun - why do you think they have people from all around the world there?

 

Working for the Sun is considered to be the highest level a print journalist can reach - and all they get is the same pseudo-intellectual bollocks for Guardian-reading tw*ts to praise them for it.

 

Thanks for the ranting space.

I'm loath to expose myself too much (Ooo) but I have to agree with Dr H here (a sub, perhaps?). The Sun has heart too, very loyal to its journos. I recommend Stick it Up Your Junta (some bastard borrowed my copy and never gave it back) for an insight. Sun leaders are a lesson in incisive comment. That said some of the puns are bloody awful and unfunny. I still fail to see the justification in the Gotcha headline and I will never forgive them for propping up the Tory government for so long and they were wrong in the way they attacked the Liverpool fans after Hillsborough.

 

Mind I wouldn't boast about firsts. I've worked with a few of them in my time, some are good and some you wonder if they're hiding any common sense up their arses until you realise they have none.

 

I don't agree that it's the highest level of print journalism. It's one kind of print journalism.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

It's one kind of print journalism.

Yes indeed,

 

the worst.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

It's one kind of print journalism.

Yes indeed,

 

the worst.

No, that award must go to the Guardian.

 

There's nothing worse than champagne-socialists who think they are clever.

[Tempus Fugit 212]

It's one kind of print journalism.

Yes indeed,

 

the worst.

No, that award must go to the Guardian.

 

There's nothing worse than champagne-socialists who think they are clever.

Never having read The Guardian I wouldn't know.

 

But I believe Polly Toynbee writes for them,

 

which says it all really.

[Banshees Scream 108]

Keith Richards - If you ever drop by some time I must tell you that

it's not that your not Rock N Roll enough anymore.

 

The reason your not a deathlist canidate is because you have quit many of

your drug addicting habits.

 

PS - I'm a poet and song writer and I would like to have your

opinion on my lyrics?

[Anubis the Jackal 76]

There's nothing worse than champagne-socialists who think they are clever.

Apart from champagne-socialists who think they are clever, because they believe writing hateful L.C.D. pap for the tabs is the pinnacle of their art

[Brinsworth House Baiter 12]

So, what started as an excited 'hey, we're in the nationals!' thread basically degenerated into a big willy contest over who reads the most intellectual newspaper.

 

I'd wager that a great per-centage of these people reading the broadsheets as they commute to work are actually using them to shield their copies of The Sun/ Choirboys Quarterly.

 

Jeez, get over yourselves.