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Honor Blackman. I am sticking with my feelings that she is often overlooked as a pick and I think we are due a surprise death from the list rather than one of the more popular picks.

It is still better out than in as my nan used to say!You don't want it unhealthily staying inside doing damage when it needs to be pushed out to greet some toilet roll helping it to fulfill its destiny!

There are now two hits on the deathlist less than 5 weeks into the year. I told you patience is a virtue when it comes to enemas.The stools are loosening up and starting to gradually evacuate from the bowels!

On this day in 1983 american singer Karen Carpenter, who was part of the music duo The Carpenters with her older brother Richard, died as a result of complications of anorexia nervosa aged just 32.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10884975/michael-barrymore-stuart-lubbock-murder-suspects/ Michael Barrymore and 7 guests at his party in 2001 are all suspects in the rape and murder of Stuart Lubbock.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/kenyan-president-says-former-president-daniel-arap-moi-has-died/2020/02/03/3d3f463a-4702-11ea-91ab-ce439aa5c7c1_story.html Also confirmed by The Washington Post, only a matter of time before the BBC and UK papers report it. So a second hit for the committee, this time last year we had no 'hits' until February 12th.

Americas first openly gay black federal judge Deborah Batts has died aged 72.

Very good!!

Be careful!Some of the femminists and younger folk on Twitter would berate you with a vengeance and a big sermon for using a slang word for female genitalla as a way to insult another person!Some would class it as very sexist and misogynistic...

Lol Do I detect sarcasm?!

No I thought he had a previous history of hard living so assumed someone somewhere on these wise shores would have made a thread on him in recent years once he was entering his 8th decade!

Yes and no!A fair number of them are older gay men 45 upwards who now argue they do not want to be grouped with trans .The debate on both sides can get rather vicious and passionate to say the least!

Well now I am the one who is confused!

Indeed. Falls though can often serve as a sudden and timely reminder of ones mortality. I know of a few older people in my life as I am sure we all do who have been quite shook up by a fall in their senior years. I was also genuinely surprised that he did not already have a thread.

Thank you. I have seen many debates and heated squabbles on social media between gay men , lesbians and transmen and transwomen on these very issues of if they still belong in the same category or group.

Someone has tweeted Michael Ball to tell him that an actress he used to work with Sally Mates has passed away. She was aged roughly 76 and had appeared in quite a few shows on stage and screen including Cats Eyes, Wire in the blood, Suspects and Les Miserables on stage.

Not sure if this is the right thread as some people might object to trans related news in a gay thread but anyway I'm going to risk a storm in an outraged teacup! It has been announced that the director of Trans Pride in Northern Ireland Stephen Caves passed away this morning. He was also an activist on other issues such as disability rights.

56 new deaths as a result of the coronavirus in China today it has just been announced.

Start up Queen!! What a novel phrase which I think would have a very different meaning in some of the circles that I mix in!!

I think it is very likely many are not even being diagnosed or admitted to hospital and are simply being classified as having died from pneumonia.

One of the biggest stars in MMA american Ken Shamrock has announced that his father has passed away.

Yes I think that is right and going on both what I recall being reported subsequently and what I have been told/heard from the gay scene is that he mixed in with and attracted some of the more psychopathic and criminally involved male prostitutes (they were called that then now they all call themselves escorts) and rent boys. He liked rough , scally or bad lads shall we say and they liked his money ,VIP access and stepping stone opportunities they envisaged with him.I cannot say he has been blackmailed but he definitely behaved in a way that made him an easy target for it.This was in the days before cameras on phones so that gives you an indication of just HOW careless he was being. He wasn't just targeted though.It wasn't that cut and dry, he often sought such people out or 'friendly' bouncers helpfully sought out the male totty for him if I can put it like that.

It's all very detail lite at the moment but apparently a documentary on channel 4 to be shown soon is going to reveal new information or evidence. Speculatively it could be a new witness coming forward or an old one changing their story?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/michael-barrymore-pool-death-detective-a4351261.html Possible major trouble ahead for Michael Barrymore as new probe into the death of Stuart Lubbock begins with the detective leading the probe believing rape and murder took place that night.

Scottish author Alistair Maclean died on this day in 1987 aged 64. He was the author of numerous well known and critically praised books including HMS Ulysses, Where eagles dare, The guns of navarone and The last frontier.